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The Internet Really Seems to Hate Franchesca Ramsey
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lightskintwin
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Creating a racialized society with racial hierarchies and imposing them on a group of people for centuries that continue to be at the bottom of it and are still heavily segregated by neighborhoods and schools might just have a lingering effect, don't you think? Regardless of the current year, that legacy doesn't just disappear.
Your first post in the thread was a one-liner writing the subject off as stupid. The reply you're quoting was, if fact, a debate of someone else's opinions that you dropped as a proxy for having to formulate and express your opinions in your own words.
You get what you give. You want long-form discussions on your arguments, you need to put in some work on your end first. Why are you expecting anyone to write paragraphs of sourced material to debate your views when you can't even do us the courtesy of writing them out to begin with? Compare and contrast the content of the replies you're expecting of others and the content of the replies you've made yourself. There's a pointed divide there.
All but two were real jokey about it and didn't give two shits and are real chill in general. One was legit upset about it and wouldn't talk to her for a month after he found out. He eventually came around and is cool. Another one who got mad never really got over it and they drifted apart. Last time I heard he's a member of a local Nation of Islam chapter.
I mean, it's whatever. I don't know how those two dudes grew up and what they experienced for them to react that way. I certainly can't police their reactions, either.
lightskintwin
Banned
Ok, because I don't see many people getting that upset; at worst we just crack jokes about it. People who legit can't get over it have personal issues. And of course he's a member of the Nation of Islam. LOL At least it makes sense.
Not that I agree or disagree with Willmore but him cutting her off like that repeatedly really rubbed me the wrong way. Couldn't even finish watching the clip
Ulysses 31
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I wasn't writing off the topic as stupid at all, I was providing a possible reason why she gets hate.
I'm not oblivious to the fact that any celebrity gets hate on the interent. The title seemed to kinda imply that she gets a disproportionate amount of hate.
lmao yeah, him joining NOI was super telling. He was really big into general conspiracy theory stuff too - like real Alex Jones-esque shit. I wish she was still friends with him on FB since he would post the most hilarious links about how water flouridation is an overarching Illumanati scheme that's backed by the Rothschild family and other assorted hilarity.
Wow, sometimes I get an urge to smack some people upside their heads, this is a disgrace that happens far to frequently.
sssstententen
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Really like what I've watched so far, thanks for pointing her stuff out OP.
Great to see content like this thriving in the current political climate.
Great to see content like this thriving in the current political climate.
She does get a disproportionate amount of hate.
I had this same argument with a friend of mine. I lost track of the amount of times I had to explain to him that one group wants equality and the other wants supremacy, and that his staunch desire to not take sides is laughable because the choice is monumentally easy. He's fallen victim to the mentality that BLM and the Alt-Right are both just trying to divide us. It's frustrating.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
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lightskintwin
Banned
That's how White supremacy works. Any attempts at fighting against it is labeled as terrorism, hate groups, agitators, thugs, etc... and false equivalencies are made to true White hate groups that have committed actual terrorism and murdered thousands of people often times with impunity by the White supremacist society.
I mean, there are the black people who want to invert the power structure rather than equality. Just like there are women who actually are men-haters. But it might help if you point out to your friend that those people don't actually have the power to achieve their goals; they're a minority of a minority. Whereas white supremacy groups may be fringe but they still gain a lot of innate heft from the existing power structure.
Golden_Pigeon
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Neo-nazi linked Infowars, really ? EDIT: beaten like 20 times
lightskintwin
Banned
This is the most important part.
Sunster
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Lol. Fuck the coli outside of some shit in TLR. Buncha hotep ass people and white people posing as black folk
Yeah it's kind of amazing how far they get, too. Sure enough, he tries to equate protests and riots as the true danger while ignoring the very recent violent past civil rights groups had to fight through.
That came up too. He tried to frame fringe "SJW" actions as potential policy change but was completely ignorant and dismissive of actual systems in place to keep minorities down, all because we've both managed to do well for ourselves despite our childhood situations.
Sunster
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I was lurking there for a week and i shit you not, there was a call out thread for this very thing. One of the best threads I've ever read. Then I checked out "Higher Learning" and an uncomfortable number of opinions on non black poc and lgbt people are
DontBeThatGuy
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Wait, is that what the SOHH forums are now? I used to hit up that site all the time back in the day.
psynergylover
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She gained a subscriber today!
lightskintwin
Banned
I was lurking there for a week and i shit you not, there was a call out thread for this very thing. One of the best threads I've ever read. Then I checked out "Higher Learning" and an uncomfortable number of views on non black poc and lgbt people are
I used to post in this hip hop forum for years and it went through a period of exposing people and it was crazy the amount of users who were Pro Black/Fuck Whitey, writing heavily using stereotypical African American vernacular English phrasing and expressions, Hating White hip hop/R&B artists, dropping the N word all time... come to find out were predominately White. I remember how shocked we were at long time members that we just knew were Black.
What are you referencing? xD
Sunster
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Sorry for the derail but I just cannot help but link the thread. It perfectly sums up what you just said. http://www.thecoli.com/threads/mikeyc-exposal.452964/ I've seen him still posting too!
Gentleman Jack
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lightskintwin
Banned
LOL Damn, that was the thing about it. It was all lame, goofy looking White guys that were doing it too that looked they never even met a Black person IRL. LOL
Phoenix RISING
Banned
I guess you will find out if you keep this man. Nella Larsen wrote about this in her novella, Passing. But she put things in a negative light; you never know which part of your children's genetics will show.
lightskintwin
Banned
Yeah, the singer Halsey has an African American biological father and she can and is passing for White, so much so people don't believe she has a Black father. LOL
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Watching the videos you posted, she's kind of annoying, there aren't enough jokes, and the jokes she does have aren't that funny.
Bite sized factoid videos need to be palatable, and she's not really succeeding in that. People don't want to be educated, the want to be entertained, and failing that the speaker needs to have a level of charisma that she doesn't meet.
When you add together all the things the internet hates (black people, women, women who aren't apologetic and subservient, black people who aren't Uncle Toms, actual facts) there's plenty of fuel for the internet hate machine and nothing to really calm the outspoken idiots that lead internet rabbles.
Bite sized factoid videos need to be palatable, and she's not really succeeding in that. People don't want to be educated, the want to be entertained, and failing that the speaker needs to have a level of charisma that she doesn't meet.
When you add together all the things the internet hates (black people, women, women who aren't apologetic and subservient, black people who aren't Uncle Toms, actual facts) there's plenty of fuel for the internet hate machine and nothing to really calm the outspoken idiots that lead internet rabbles.
Ulysses 31
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It's even possible for 2 white people to have a black child.
lightskintwin
Banned
"White" people. Remember race is completely made up, so you could very easily have 2 "White" people that look it, can pass for it, but let's say under America's one drop rule wouldn't technically be white; have Black genetics that produce a Black baby.
Wanda/Wander
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Wow, I didn't know that Hasley was black
lightskintwin
Banned
It's going to be hard labeling this as Black
Which just highlights the silliness of race as a social construct.
MHWilliams
Member
The thread title feels like a great name for a TV show.
It's going to be hard labeling this as Black
Which just highlights the silliness of race as a social construct.
lightskintwin
Banned
Does she pass for White? At the very least I can see people think she was Hispanic/Latino like a lot of biracial Black folk look.
I just know a lot of people were shocked to find out.
Frozenprince
Banned
Yep.
Black, female, fights against racism, actively progressive, large audience.
Perfect storm of hate.
I was listening to an NPR segment(I was probably linked to it by GAF) and the host were talking about how listeners would complain about some hosts and guest using vocal fry. Despite the male host regularly speaking with vocal fry(which he admitted to), every complaint they received was about the women.
lightskintwin
Banned
I bet they were upset at the news. LOL
I remember people were shocked that Jennifer Beals of Flashdance fame has an African American father. I saw an interview where she said for years, Puerto Ricans have tried to claim her. LOL But I can definitely see why people would think she looks Hispanic/Latino.
Godbless Queen Karen, even though she beats Rod. He deserves it sometimes.
What kills me are the dudes that suddenly lose their attraction after finding out. I know they go home and fap even harder
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