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The Last Guardian: Review Thread

For the past few months, I have been the only reviews on the site. But most recently, we got a new writer doing reviews as well. So, we went through some growing pains trying to get the review scale from my reviews implemented with his writing style.

I am deeply sorry this makes 3WIREL look unprofessional but we will improve upon these issues.

Keep pushing on. Keep up that good attitude of building on feedback, always aim for the highest quality from yourself and your peers and you'll get there :)
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

I mean, the game was terrible to look at, but as far as I can think of, I don't think the 360 version that he reviewed had a lot of performance problems to rail on. The PS3 version was the one that fucked the dog on that front.
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

If you knew of Jim's previous articles and statements regarding ICO and SOTC, you know that his opinion can be safely disregarded in regards to TLG. I love Jim to death, but sometimes he just doesn't get it... which is fine, because he admits he just doesn't get it and doesn't try to make excuses.

https://www.destructoid.com/oil-on-water-how-i-can-t-love-the-games-you-love-212157.phtml
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

Haha, I made note of this earlier, though I cited his 8/10 for the PS3 version, which had stupidly bad performace to go along with the game's half-assed combat (don't get me wrong, that's also a game I loved despite its shortcomings). The performace was so bad, I decided to delete my free PS3 copy and just bought it on PC (a version which had its own issues).

That being said, I don't think he's a fan of Ueda's games.
 
I gave two score predictions, one was my heart (89), the other was from my head (80-83). I knew I should have listened to my head lol.
I'm really impressed with opencritic lately. Hopefully we can finally leave metacritic behind.
I was impressed by the concept, but the execution hasn't really fulfilled the promise yet for me.

It's odd that you have an aggregator touting its "openness" right in its name, but it still seems to actually aggregate less reviews than its main competitor. Hopefully with their relaxation of the English requirement, that'll change.
 
I gave two score predictions, one was my heart (89), the other was from my head (80-83). I knew I should have listened to my head lol.

I was impressed by the concept, but the execution hasn't really fulfilled the promise yet for me.

It's odd that you have an aggregator touting its "openness" right in its name, but it still seems to actually aggregate less reviews than its main competitor. Hopefully with their relaxation of the English requirement, that'll change.

Yep, Metacritic has about 13 reviews more. 78 vs 83.
 
I appreciate when developers release games with a stable frame rate, but I'm not going to choose a game because it runs at 30/60 consistently. Like I'm not going to watch transformers just because the 4K bluray is technically exceptional, I'd rather watch Goodfellas on VHS.
 
Yep, Metacritic has about 13 reviews more. 78 vs 83.
It's happened a number of times that I remember. It may actually be happening most of the time for all I know.

Uncharted 4: Metacritic had 113, OpenCritic had 85 (78 scored)

Forza Horizon 3: Metacritic had 101, OpenCritic had 74 (68 scored)

Dishonored 2: Metacritic had 109, OpenCritic had 78 (72 scored)

That's a pretty significant gap. It'll be interesting to see if the English thing makes up the difference now.
 
Phil Kollar's review at Polygon hits the nail on the head--and I suspect his will be a standout critique once the dust settles.

Suuuure, it will be a classic we will talk about in ten years. "Remember Kollar´s review, so damn fine writing, ahead of its time!"




;-)

I hope Metacritic stays the one, especially after reading some opinions here from one of the cofounders. Shit was gross to read.

What did they say?
 
Went on and on about Blood and Wine not adding a single new feature to the game, something that many of us proved to be completely false. This was the post that annoyed a few people:
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It's happened a number of times that I remember. It may actually be happening most of the time for all I know.

Uncharted 4: Metacritic had 113, OpenCritic had 85 (78 scored)

Forza Horizon 3: Metacritic had 101, OpenCritic had 74 (68 scored)

Dishonored 2: Metacritic had 109, OpenCritic had 78 (72 scored)

That's a pretty significant gap. It'll be interesting to see if the English thing makes up the difference now.

I think that's it. Last time I raised this issue they said that they're working on the only english reviews issue.
 
I hope Metacritic stays the one, especially after reading some opinions here from one of the cofounders. Shit was gross to read.

yeah, I like Opencritic a lot, but that was rough. Even worse that he used their platform to express his own opinions (posting the same stuff on the OC twitter profile)

Still a very cool website tho
 
Wathcing the ACG review, it included a bit with VO. I had no idea
the structure of this was that it was being told like a story from some point in the future.

Dude also said he beat it in 8hrs. Where some other outlets mention 12-15. Not sure whose is right on this
 
huh

criticizing the witcher is what passes for "gross" these days
I wouldn't call it "gross," but throwing out false claims about a game isn't a good look for someone swooping in making claims as the representative of a review aggregator.
I appreciate when developers release games with a stable frame rate, but I'm not going to choose a game because it runs at 30/60 consistently. Like I'm not going to watch transformers just because the 4K bluray is technically exceptional, I'd rather watch Goodfellas on VHS.
this comparison is wild and i'm not sure how to take it
 
I know, I know, sometimes its hard being part of what's easily the least maligned gaming fanbase on GAF

5 years of lurking this forum has shown me that there's very little anti-Sony bias going around and that Sony is generally held in high regard.

Funny you say that because the last 5 years have been particularly harsh. Sony has the most fans on this board but easily, easily the most haters who are very vocal and are never shy to express their problems with Sony games, hardware and other gaming "politics". Least maligned? I can't agree with that. Why are Sony threads always shitshows then.

Not exclusive to Sony, the same happens with Microsoft or Nintendo. It's just the brand loyalty bullshit that seems inescapable in this industry.

Yep, it happens to all the platforms. I just think its significantly slanted towards one in particular. That's all I'll say on the matter.

I've tried to avoid spoilers but read a few reviews here and there. Those of us who love Team Ico games seem to have another entry worthy of its predecessors. That is good enough for me. Soon, after the dust settles we can actually begin discussing Uedas next potential game...what a bizarre feeling that will be!
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

I HATE when people do this. He didn't review it poorly for clickbait, he reviewed it poorly because he didn't like it. You don't have to spin every opinion that's negative.
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

His bigger beef with TLG was re gameplay issues.

... You know, something Dead Prem also has in spades.
 
If you knew of Jim's previous articles and statements regarding ICO and SOTC, you know that his opinion can be safely disregarded in regards to TLG. I love Jim to death, but sometimes he just doesn't get it... which is fine, because he admits he just doesn't get it and doesn't try to make excuses.

https://www.destructoid.com/oil-on-water-how-i-can-t-love-the-games-you-love-212157.phtml

It's not failing to get anything, it's that different people have different tolerances for flaws. Everyone seems to agree the controls can be unresponsive and that there are times when you are solving the puzzle exactly right but the game doesn't let you progress for reasons that aren't communicated, in terms of telling you what you need to do differently - it's just that some are willing to let that slide.

If you can do the exact same thing several times in a row (such as, call out to the creature) and it only works on the fifth try, that's not like complaining about framerate or some technical issue. That's gameplay. Some people will find that more frustrating than others, which is why some people are dog people and some people are cat people.
 
This is the same song and dance evey damn review thread where people just magically toss out certain outlets because you can't "trust" them our they have an agenda. Gimme a break.

Regardless I gotta say I'm super excited about these reviews. Impressions at trade shows were a bit mixed at first and quite a few impressions talked about technical issues such as clipping, graphics, and frame rate hiccups. It's expected given the turbulent dev cycle, but regardless it seems to me like a typical team ico game.

SOTC is one of the goats and it's frame rate is pretty horrendous. This is great news, just relax and try to realize not everybody has an agenda. Also let's cool it with the console war crap. Somebody commented that gaf has a strong anti Sony sentiment? Non sense, I would say over the years the Sony fan base has taken over as the largest on gaf.
 
Friend of mine that got a review copy and played the game said that the version he played was "UNPATCHED". I wonder if this was the norm, and if so, patch 1.1 fixes a lot of these fps issues?

Also, someone was talking about HDR in the X800D thread. Didn't know the game would be supporting HDR. Does it?
 
This is the same song and dance evey damn review thread where people just magically toss out certain outlets because you can't "trust" them our they have an agenda. Gimme a break.

Regardless I gotta say I'm super excited about these reviews. Impressions at trade shows were a bit mixed at first and quite a few impressions talked about technical issues such as clipping, graphics, and frame rate hiccups. It's expected given the turbulent dev cycle, but regardless it seems to me like a typical team ico game.

SOTC is one of the goats and it's frame rate is pretty horrendous. This is great news, just relax and try to realize not everybody has an agenda. Also let's cool it with the console war crap. Somebody commented that gaf has a strong anti Sony sentiment? Non sense, I would say over the years the Sony fan base has taken over as the largest on gaf.
Leave Sony alone!!!!1 *cries*
 
I remeber back in the day when Jim Sterling reviewed Deadly Premonition as a 10/10

https://www.destructoid.com/review-deadly-premonition-165168.phtml

That was a game that had a lot of heart but was a shit show on a technical level and to actually control gameplay wise.

So its odd he wants to play the exact opposite card now with regard to TLG. But then maybe his DP review was just click bait as well. :(

LOL.

If anyone in the industry is deserving of your trust, it's Sterling.

Man has more integrity than most.

I believe that every word out of his mouth is genuine. And that he has the courage to voice unpopular opinions.

Doesn't mean I agree with him all the time. But I most certainly respect his unflinching sincerity.
 
SotC is my favorite game of all time despite all the technical mishaps and controls (which I didn't find that annoying). Not everyone is phased by these things and can ignore them if the experience pays off in the end.

I can't believe this game comes out tomorrow, holy shit!
 
Friend of mine that got a review copy and played the game said that the version he played was "UNPATCHED". I wonder if this was the norm, and if so, patch 1.1 fixes a lot of these fps issues?

Also, someone was talking about HDR in the X800D thread. Didn't know the game would be supporting HDR. Does it?

It does support HDR and word is its done well.
 
LOL.

If anyone in the industry is deserving of your trust, it's Sterling.

Man has more integrity than most.

I believe that every word out of his mouth is genuine. And that he has the courage to voice unpopular opinions.

Doesn't mean I agree with him all the time. But I most certainly respect his unflinching sincerity.

Like I said a few posts above every review thread is the same thing. People will discredit reviewers for varying different reasons.

I've heard IGN shouldn't be trusted (they reviewed tomb raider better than uc4 oh no!), Jim sterling in this thread because he doesn't get it apparently, giant bomb because they're jaded and hate gaming, polygon because they're on Microsoft's take, gamespot because they need the clicks, Eurogamer because "they've really gone downhill"

What's funny is the exact opposite happens when a game reviews poorly and somebody who reviews it well is one of the few people you can actually trust. I've heard sterling and giant bomb are the only 2 who have the balls to give a truthful review but only when it's convenient. I liked the game a lot, but until dawn rush of blood reviewed poorly, but sterling was salivating over it so the consensus seemed to be " see he's the only one who gets it"... But apparently he doesn't get it with this game.
 
Friend of mine that got a review copy and played the game said that the version he played was "UNPATCHED". I wonder if this was the norm, and if so, patch 1.1 fixes a lot of these fps issues?

Also, someone was talking about HDR in the X800D thread. Didn't know the game would be supporting HDR. Does it?

Yes it does support HDR. I have it pre downloaded and it is part of the patch notes
 
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