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The Last-Stop-Speak-In-Hyperbole Official Revolution Specs Thread
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soundwave05
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Well I'd say Revolution is an "alternative" console, not a "next-gen" machine per se.
I don't mean that as an insult (people called the DS the next Virtual Boy and look how that turned out).
I'm actually pretty interested in the concept of a pure "non-hardcore" console, something that might eventually sell for $49.99 and people pick up on impulse.
I don't mean that as an insult (people called the DS the next Virtual Boy and look how that turned out).
I'm actually pretty interested in the concept of a pure "non-hardcore" console, something that might eventually sell for $49.99 and people pick up on impulse.
pilonv1 said:
While I understand the logic, you'd have to make some really lopsided comparisons to find a PS2 game that looks better than an Xbox or GC game. I just hope the Rev can deliver visuals that are at the least comparable. We still don't know the whole story, so as I said I'm still in 'wait and see' mode.
citrus lump
Banned
Mrbob said:
Well egm did say its been rumored to be shockingly low priced. A $199 console isn't so shocking, unless you compare it to the $399 X360.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
puck1337 said:
16MB just for audio is pretty awesome for current gen.
*runs*Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Mrbob said:Nintendo fans have now gone from "480P versions of Xbox 360 and PS3 games! Sweet!" to "Eh, graphics don't matter now anyway. Two time more powerful than the Gamecube is more than enough. Think about the new control scheme!" Funny stuff.
Dont you have Games to play on that spanking new 360? let us drown in sorrow without being bothered.
Version 3.0
Member
Mama Smurf said:
No. The direct quote is "When you turn on the Revolution, and you see the graphics, you will say 'wow'."
I put up a video of the quote on my site if you want to see it, first link on the page:
http://www.gameswelike.com/web/index.htm
GitarooMan
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Error2k4 said:
I think they could compete on a technical level, it's other mistakes that hurt them with GC, not lack of technical prowess. No DVD, kiddy looking box, lack of exclusive western development. The failure of GC has nothing to do with competing on a "technical" level. I think if the Rev launched with great Nintendo franchises, great tech (both control and visual), DVD or Blu-ray, and good Western support, it would be successful in the US. Of course it wouldn't be super profitable and super tiny (IMO big selling point in JP).
soundwave05
Member
Error2k4 said:
Why? I could see the system described above retailing for $49.99 as time goes on.
I think what Nintendo is addressing is that hardware is a hurdle stopping people from getting into games.
For non-gamers, game machines are too expensive and too complicated, so with Revolution, I think what they're trying to do is eliminate those two hurdles.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Can we refer to them as Nintendo idiots and not Nintendo fans? Plenty of Nintendo fans had perfectly reasonable expectations, but, as always on the net, the stupid community shouts loudest.
This whole Nintendo paying ATi the same amout as MS thing is, again I believe, misunderstood. This one I really can't remember much about at all, but recently some poster apologised for misunderstanding that or something...god I don't know. He'd have to come in and explain it himself, I wasn't paying much attention. The basic gist of it was Nintendo didn't pay them that much. So don't wildly cling onto that hope.
This whole Nintendo paying ATi the same amout as MS thing is, again I believe, misunderstood. This one I really can't remember much about at all, but recently some poster apologised for misunderstanding that or something...god I don't know. He'd have to come in and explain it himself, I wasn't paying much attention. The basic gist of it was Nintendo didn't pay them that much. So don't wildly cling onto that hope.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
soundwave05 said:
4th pillar! :lol
citrus lump
Banned
Doc Holliday said:
WAITAMINNUT. People here actually PLAY games? 0__0
"dynamitejim
Member
Nintendo has definitely gone off the deep end on this one. I mean Deadmeat was actually right for once. :lol I'd say even at $100 2x the GameCube seems like a ripoff. Consoles are 4-5 year investments for many and you pay the high entry price knowing that. Another 4-5 years of essentially GC graphics seems pretty lame. And there's no doubt in my mind, even with underpowered and easy to program hardware, that Nintendo will still not be able to get out enough software on-time.
..pakbeka..
Member
ps3 + rev FTW
Scottlarock
Banned
handheld? NPS? Nintendo portable system? what ever happen to GC portable?
Eel O'Brian
Member
bishoptl said:
You, and a LOT of other people (myself included). Personally, I can't wait to play some "out there" games with that controller - and I haven't owned a Nintendo system since the NES. Talking with some of my non-gaming friends about the Xbox 360 and the upcoming next-gen systems, I mentioned Nintendo's new controller/downloadable library/lower price point. Every single one of them sounded interested, and these are all people who probably haven't played video games since PS1.
PhoenixDark
Banned
olimario said:PLAYS
-Brand new Revolution titles undoable on the PS3/360
-GCN games
-N64 games
-SNES games
-NES game
COSTS
-Hundreds less than the competition
LOOKS
-A shit ton better than this
Listen to this man GAF, he speaks the gospel.
If you can't get excited about that, you might be a readneck.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Leondexter said:
I believe you, I won't check the vid. Thanks though, places like CVG reported he said the other thing so I wasn't sure.
soundwave05 said:
I feel the same way.
The fact the console is going to be significantly weaker than the competition makes it more of a revolution. Seriously, a revolution is about changing the establishment not outdoing it.
Furthermore, I think Nintendo was happy with the Gamecube from a development perspective and wanted a machine that's similar.
It's an interesting experiment.
UltraMarioMan
Member
I see no specs in this thread. Show me specs that are not guesses from GAFers.
Izzy said:
Aahah agreed
actually I think Nintendo is the only company to have a real fanbase.Both Sony and Microsoft would be quickly abandoned if they made a product with this specs.Anyway I think this strategy is really risky,probably the cheap price could give them a boost at the beginning of the race since they reach the mass market on launch day,but they won't last long with that hardware also considering that developers won't be able to directly port all their PS3/Xbox360 titles on the console.
soundwave05
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I could see Revolution eventually retailing for $49.99, maybe a year after its been on market.
I think what Nintendo is trying to do is to make the hardware a non-issue for players. You don't have to really think about buying it, because its so cheap its an impulse buy.
That's important for non-gamers. To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if this approach is more successful than the GameCube.
I think what Nintendo is trying to do is to make the hardware a non-issue for players. You don't have to really think about buying it, because its so cheap its an impulse buy.
That's important for non-gamers. To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if this approach is more successful than the GameCube.
radioheadrule83
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Mama Smurf said:
Even if they did pay the same, we were talking about RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT. The issue got blurred around the CPU / GPU as well... which was wrong too. I believe we were talking about ATI (GPU then obviously).
Pouring money into R&D is not the same thing as pouring money into mass producing the chip when it comes to building the console. Its about the DESIGN!!! You could pay a bunch of engineers the same amount as the Xenos team, and get them to come up with something not as powerful, something that doesn't dissapate as much heat, something that is incredibly efficient at what it does etc.
You don't necessarily pay for performance. You pay for long term value. This might be something Nintendo fans have to learn to get to grips with..
All Hail C-Webb
Hailing from the Chill-Web
This is an Xbox 360 game, since it looks like a game the GC can handle, and the Rev is twice as powerful as the GC. Revolution >>>>> 360.
I really don't like this quote, and don't understand how the Xbox360 and PS3 can be lumped together. From what I've seen the PS3 is capable of doing a whole lot more than the Xbox 360, and I personaly feel that after the PS3 launches, the XBOX 360 will look like a weak console by comparison. If the Rev were as powerful, and cost as much as the 360 it would just be ignored. By making the console cheaper, and giving us a new control method, the Rev will be my 2nd option after the PS3, as that's where I'm going ot get my eye candy.
I really don't like this quote, and don't understand how the Xbox360 and PS3 can be lumped together. From what I've seen the PS3 is capable of doing a whole lot more than the Xbox 360, and I personaly feel that after the PS3 launches, the XBOX 360 will look like a weak console by comparison. If the Rev were as powerful, and cost as much as the 360 it would just be ignored. By making the console cheaper, and giving us a new control method, the Rev will be my 2nd option after the PS3, as that's where I'm going ot get my eye candy.
Mama Smurf said:
I am sceptical of this news that the GPU is just twice the power of the GC's flipper. Mainly because of the old Metroid Rev video from last E3. You can clearly see the aa(supersampled?) added and and alteast 3x the polygon count of the original Metroid Prime model.
citrus lump
Banned
Scottlarock said:
So maybe in 2 years or so they shrink this hardware into a handheld? Of course with nintendo, it'll have to have some new feature, like a shell covered in fur to simulate petting in games.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
You know, you can claim Ms and Sony fans would jump ship, but I don't think that's true. They certainly would if it was simply another console with those specs, of course they would. I suspect most Nintendo fans would too if that was the case. But if Sony or MS were touting the same philosophy, had the controller, going for a low price point...I don't see any reason why lots of people wouldn't still be interested. Regardless of the maufacturor.
sure they can, but what I mean and what Scooter has been saying all along is that even while being on par with 360 and PS3 technical-wise they'll still lose more market and more mindshare and while they are at that they'll lose a shitload of money because of the hardware. so making a cheap hardware with and interesting control, a wi fi service, plus download old games is a great move by Nintendo seriously all that at $150 with a pack-in Mario game(platformer) to showcase the controller is a seriously good move IMO.GitarooMan said:
MadOdorMachine
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Yeah, but look at the textures. Very little improvement.Monk said:
Letter to Elise
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All Hail C-Webb said:This is an Xbox 360 game, since it looks like a game the GC can handle, and the Rev is twice as powerful as the GC. Revolution >>>>> 360.
Now post a great 360 shot and be self-owned. ^_^
~l2e