TheGreatMightyPoo
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You don't think it will sell???
I beg to differ.
Little effort, big price, people starved for Zelda...moneys.
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The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD - Story Trailer
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You don't think it will sell???
I beg to differ.
Little effort, big price, people starved for Zelda...moneys.
A Gamecube game in HD isn't worth what they're asking for this.
Found the same spot in the original version, though on a blurry YouTube video:
Eyes look off too.
Oh, so it had duckface in the original too? I didn't remember that. Must be how that part is animated.
I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
There is a new Zelda coming out this year, though and that's a tech demo. I'm pretty sure you know this both. To make TP HD look even remotely close to that tech demo would have mean to allocate all the Zelda resources to the remaster.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Yeah, people are freaking out over one still shot of one point in the game.
She seems to look fine otherwise from the few seconds of her moving in the video but I'm not saying better than the original.
Why would they put that effort into remaking an old game when they are also putting in serious effort on that level into a brand new game coming out in time for the anniversary?I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
Because Wii U happened and it was always going to not sell as good as it would on any other console = not worth the effort.I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
I found a slightly better quality? https://youtu.be/DjodQE3-WUs?t=378
I wanna find it in dolphin and compare. They recolored her lips and I think the outline of the lip texture is what's doing it. Also the brigher eyes changed the emphasis somehow.
I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
Cause that would be a ridiculous amount of work. Retexturing and upgrading some models is much easier than remaking the game entirely.
Vinterbird
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I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
That would mean creating new assets, which is expensive. We're getting these re-releases because they're cheap to make compared to a full blown release.
They aren't going to port it again anytime soon, lets be realistic here.
The yet another Zelda line was just referring to them releasing another one on a poor selling console.
Oh it'll sell pretty well, it would've sold better on a console that will have a larger install base down the road.
Shuggananas
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Am I the only one that thinks she kind of resembles Princess Peach?
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's a blessing and a curse.
I'm going to play it all on the Gamepad(assuming Off Tv play is in) so it doesn't look too sharp to show all its ugliness.
Always-honest
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It's a great game. But when i fired it up on my Wii i almost got sick from how sad the graphics looked. I liked the twilight realm, but that's about it visually.
A shame. Zelda deserves the best.
James Scott
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That's a full remake and would take a ton of resources for a game so bigI haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
Ilia looks ugly as sin. I don't know if they changed her model but some of the humans look hideous in HD.
It's a shame this had to be outsourced, with a Wind Waker HD level of attention this could have been amazing. What we've ended up with is just the Wii game in HD, I know they have improved some textures but the blandness of the art style is really painful when it's in HD clarity. It needed some new lighting at the very least.
It's a shame this had to be outsourced, with a Wind Waker HD level of attention this could have been amazing. What we've ended up with is just the Wii game in HD, I know they have improved some textures but the blandness of the art style is really painful when it's in HD clarity. It needed some new lighting at the very least.
James Scott
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Is that shot from the trailer?Am I the only one that thinks she kind of resembles Princess Peach?
They've removed a lot of the hard lighting on the faces which smoothed out contours, making some look doll-like.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Ah that makes sense. Removed the texture lighting, apply not-great lighting, and boom, they look weirdo.
Oh, she really had a duckface before duckfaces were cool.
This HD Remaster is living proof of how amazingly optimised for GCN Twilight Princess really was. The lighting tricks they used made it look much better than it really was. The end-result was super impressive for its time.
When you take that game and up-port it with only negligible technical improvements and little to no optimization, it shows its ugliest face. Its ugliest face is still a decent offering on its own, but it's nowhere near as worthy of respect as the original TP.
When you take that game and up-port it with only negligible technical improvements and little to no optimization, it shows its ugliest face. Its ugliest face is still a decent offering on its own, but it's nowhere near as worthy of respect as the original TP.
Hadn't noticed this artwork until now:
It is new I guess? Got more here:
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/...da+Twilight+Princess+HD+la+historia+en+Wii+U/
It is new I guess? Got more here:
http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/...da+Twilight+Princess+HD+la+historia+en+Wii+U/
It might just be because of the softer lighting, but it does give the illusion that her nose is a fraction longer pushing her lips out a bit.
The stronger shadows around her eyes looked better as well.
Human's are great with recognising faces and the fact everyone thinks something looked off speaks volumes.
EDIT: And yeah, her irises are clearly bigger now. Less white around them.
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I think the model looks the same as back on GCN/Wii, but looks more off due to the better image quality, and that's why we notice that now.
I think her eyes have a too large iris, plus a different lighting that .... shows the duckface better than before.
Most humans, sans Link and Zelda, look off.
Man, the game never was a looker, and the art-style hasn't aged well.
Makes me think if Skyward Sword would have a better transition because of it's different art-style.
I think her eyes have a too large iris, plus a different lighting that .... shows the duckface better than before.
Most humans, sans Link and Zelda, look off.
Man, the game never was a looker, and the art-style hasn't aged well.
Makes me think if Skyward Sword would have a better transition because of it's different art-style.
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More like Monolithsoft designed the faces in the beginning, right? ^^
Toadthemushroom
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Yeah, Wind Waker HD's core assets scale up better without the need to re-do geometry.
However, TP HD isn't as technically accomplished either.
With Wind Waker HD the lighting was overhauled to a deferred system, and there were dynamic realtime shadows across the environment. There was of course the bloom, but it's evident that Hexadrive's work was a big upgrade from a technical level.
Twilight Princess HD is more modest, a bit like Tantalus' work on Zombi PS4/One. There are a few upgraded textures which look genuinely redone (Wind Waker's went through an HD upscaler), though a bit amateurish (the pillars in Castle Town are irksome looking). But otherwise it's the same visuals just in 1080p, which further exposes the low-poly geometry, basic lighting and less-than-timeless texture design.
I don't think there can be any doubt about that. Skyward Sword had a much better art style, like Wind Waker it will age well. TP was always a strange looking game, impressive in some aspects but lacking character and having some obvious flaws.
Yes it is, hence the compression.
New to me. Nice to see they didn't try covering up the Great Fairy more.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's pretty badass.
CarlieCaplin
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Looks great. Can't wait!!
Why would you do that?
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It might just be because of the softer lighting, but it does give the illusion that her nose is a fraction longer pushing her lips out a bit.
The stronger shadows around her eyes looked better as well.
Human's are great with recognising faces and the fact everyone thinks something looked off speaks volumes.
EDIT: And yeah, her irises are clearly bigger now. Less white around them.
Amazing how a bit of lighting makes her look hilarious.
But outside of that... monstrosity, I actually liked the trailer, and it reminded me of everything I loved about Twilight Princess while looking a lot better, IMO.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Celebrities without makeup: Ilia.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Now I can't wait to see how Colin looks in Toilet Princess HD!
Making tp look like that would take years, require a big team and cost a lot of money. probably wouldn't be the best way to spend those resources.I haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Probably more like Colon amiright??????????
Bubba_Sparks
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Not a Wii-U owner, and I clicked on this thread mistaking it for a trailer for the new Zelda. Anyway, I have to say I think this game has aged terribly, and I don't really see the value in a remaster. Wind Waker HD looked appealing even to a non Wii-U owner such as myself. The cel-shaded artstyle of Wind Waker holds up much better and it looks like more effort was placed on upgrading the underlying technology. Twilight Princess HD doesn't benefit from Wind Waker's cel-shaded artstyle and as such the limitations of the Wii are much more apparent. I guess some people might be dying to replay Twilight Princess so this will be a great way for them to do that, I just can't imagine that number of people is too large.
AcademicSaucer
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Lol, they are not going to spend that kind of money for Wii UI haven't played all Zelda games. I don't know if the game is good or bad. I would like to play this someday. Wind Waker HD was great and gorgeous.
Meanwhile, this game... ugly as hell. I don't understand why Nintendo considers this remaster something good to celebrate Zelda's 25th anniversary, when they could have given us the same game looking like this:
Refreshment.01
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If you have the slightest intention to get this, buy it now. It's very rare to see price drops for highly acclaimed Nintendo games.
I'm also waiting for this info.
Magicpaint
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I wonder if this is what Nintendo meant when they said they tested all the three last gen Zeldas for remastering and WW benefited the most? It would explain why TP HD looks bland in comparison. You'd think TP needs it the most though. Weird.
Love this game but not sure I'll bite just yet. Hopefully we hear some more gameplay changes to make up for the middling visuals.
Love this game but not sure I'll bite just yet. Hopefully we hear some more gameplay changes to make up for the middling visuals.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Most non-cel-shaded games have aged terribly in general.
People still want them remastered because they have HD TVs and because of nostalgia.
It's also nice to have a version of the game on the most current console of the brand.