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The Matrix - 15th Anniversary (March 31 1999 - 2014)

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So they re-color graded the film to match the rest of the trilogy. So what? It looks much better with the green tint as the contrast is so much better and less dull than without the grading.
It most certainly does not look better.
Blu ray release. The greet tint was added to make it visually similar to the sequels.
No, much earlier than that. It was redone for the ultimate matrix box set. In like 2004.
It still looks terrible to this day, it's a shame the only available version of the original color grading is the old school cardboard DVD.. That's ALSO the only disk with the cast commentary, there are a few actors and john gaeta on the track and it's very lighthearted.
 
That's a matter of opinion though. I'm not saying you're wrong but to me the original without any serious color grading looks rather dull and lifeless compared to the green tint on the rerelease.
No it's really more a Star Wars situation, the og matrix looked sooo much cooler before they redid the colors. The sequels are just a different beast all around and the tinting works there. But there were massive aesthetic changes introduced in the sequel and adding the color tone to the original film does nothing but ruin it.

The green/blue dichotomy is still there with the original color grading. Its just more subtle.
 
It most certainly does not look better.

No, much earlier than that. It was redone for the ultimate matrix box set. In like 2004.
It still looks terrible to this day, it's a shame the only available version of the original color grading is the old school cardboard DVD.. That's ALSO the only disk with the cast commentary, there are a few actors and john gaeta on the track and it's very lighthearted.

i still have that cardboard release (I think)
 
Nah, there's a lot to it outside the good action and that scene that every last video on newgrounds emulated.



Makes sense, but wasn't in at first so it was just to match with the sequels that never existed.

It was on way before the sequels were a thing. I remember hearing it on the DVD commentary a long long time ago. I'm surprised it wasn't on the theatrical run, they went on and on about how meticulously they were in choosing the color composition.
 
yeah, it was so intentional that it wasn't in the original release!

The cinema run was tinted (blue/green at that), it was later lost in the VHS home release and subsequent DVD release, then a more green tint was re-introduced along with the sequels in 2004.
 
No it's really more a Star Wars situation, the og matrix looked sooo much cooler before they redid the colors. The sequels are just a different beast all around and the tinting works there. But there were massive aesthetic changes introduced in the sequel and adding the color tone to the original film does nothing but ruin it.

The green/blue dichotomy is still there with the original color grading. Its just more subtle.

The Star Wars situation is entirely different. The Star Wars thing with Lucas dealt with re-editing certain scenes with newer stuff and in general re-editing certain parts of the film to fit whatever messed up vision he had.

Color grading isn't messing with the film other than simply adding more visually to it. It's not like they changed the ending of The Matrix because of technology advancements.
 
The cinema run was tinted (blue/green at that), it was later lost in the VHS home release and subsequent DVD release, then a more green tint was re-introduced along with the sequels in 2004.

I've never heard this. I don't think its true. This 10 year old IGN article argues differently:
This new transfer is a long time in coming, and worth the wait. The new transfer was supervised by the Wachowskis and director of photography Bill Pope. While they didn't engage in Lucas-level fiddling, but there's no denying they did do a little color filtering to bring the first film more in line with the look of the second and third films.

Even though in the comparison screens the original color grade looks brownish/more natural the film still very much had the green/blue color differences based on what reality they were in. It was there, thats always been a part of the matrix. They just made it more pronounced and redid the film to match the sequels. I don't understand why more people aren't upset about it. Its always bothered me.

Color grading isn't messing with the film other than simply adding more visually to it. It's not like they changed the ending of The Matrix because of technology advancements.

No, but for a film where style and aesthetic is fundamentally a giant part of the experience changing the colors for the worse absolutely detracts from the experience. It is a less beautiful now than it was in 1999.
 
The green tint has a function, IIRC it represented the mind (hence all Matrix scenes are green-tinted) blue represents the real, physical world (scenes in the Nebuchadnezzar and Zion) and golden (Neo's "blind vision" in Revolutions) represents spirit.

There's actually a plethora of philosophical and spiritual themes behind the whole trilogy, although the original is by far the best.
 
No, but for a film where style and aesthetic is fundamentally a giant part of the experience changing the colors for the worse absolutely detracts from the experience. It is a less beautiful now than it was in 1999.

You talk about style and aesthetic in which the green/blue are both prominent colors in both worlds of the film. Which fits the style and narrative in order to bring in a contrast of the artificial of the Matrix to the industrial of the real world. The less green there is in the Matrix, the less artificial looking the world looks.

Which, by the way, the artificial look of the green really adds alot to it since the Matrix seems to look far too clean for the most part.
 
You talk about style and aesthetic in which the green/blue are both prominent colors in both worlds of the film. Which fits the style and narrative in order to bring in a contrast of the artificial of the Matrix to the industrial of the real world. The less green there is in the Matrix, the less artificial looking the world looks.

Which, by the way, the artificial look of the green really adds alot to it since the Matrix seems to look far too clean for the most part.

Dude you're not listening to what I'm saying. All of that is still there in the original master.
 
No, but for a film where style and aesthetic is fundamentally a giant part of the experience changing the colors for the worse absolutely detracts from the experience. It is a less beautiful now than it was in 1999.

The new colors are better so no. Source: I prefer them.

And the original DVD's colors are not that accurate to the theatrical print either in case you are a purist.
 
One of the best movies of all time. I wish they'd release the theatrical version on bluray without the green tint though. I prefer it.
 
I found it mind blowing watching it for the first time on cinema and knowing nothing about it before hand. To think that this movie was targeted for its violence and how tame it looks right now in hindsight.

The Matrix franchise had so much promise when it was introduced. Too bad that it has not been done the the justice that it deserved.

If there was any talk of a re-boo, I would hope they would do it taking another crack at the story after the first movie. Matrix 2.0 perhaps?
 
It most certainly does not look better.

No, much earlier than that. It was redone for the ultimate matrix box set. In like 2004.
It still looks terrible to this day, it's a shame the only available version of the original color grading is the old school cardboard DVD.. That's ALSO the only disk with the cast commentary, there are a few actors and john gaeta on the track and it's very lighthearted.

It's in the Blu-ray actually.
 
Dude you're not listening to what I'm saying. All of that is still there in the original master.

I know you said it's less subtle in the original master which makes the world look less artificial. Which the point of the darker green tint seems to be making it look "fake" which is the point of it in the first place. To look fake.
 
Saw this with my parents opening night, I was left speechless. The sequels on the other hand...

I'll watch it again tonight if I'm not doing anything.
 
It's in the Blu-ray actually.

Ha! You're right! I just checked the back label of my bluray. Damn, I might watch that today. I remember John Gaeta talking about designing the background visualizers that can be seen on CRT monitors in the background of the club scene. That guy is so cool.
 
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Ha! You're right! I just checked the back label of my bluray. Damn, I might watch that today. I remember John Gaeta talking about designing the background visualizers that can be seen on CRT monitors in the background of the club scene. That guy is so cool.

The best thing about the Blu-ray is that it collects every single extra that has appeared in the previous DVD releases for any of the three films, so you have no reason to double dip.
 

The original looks so much better. Its much more evocative of the perpetual overcast/seeded skies theme as well.
The best thing about the Blu-ray is that it collects every single extra that has appeared in the previous DVD releases for any of the three films, so you have no reason to double dip.
I've actually tripled dipped on the original film. I have the cardboar dvd, the ultimate matrix dvd set with the plastic neo bust(which ive always kept well hidden in a closet or cabinet), and then the standalone original bluray.

I know you said it's less subtle in the original master which makes the world look less artificial. Which the point of the darker green tint seems to be making it look "fake" which is the point of it in the first place. To look fake.

The Matrix already looks fake. Thats why they did some crazy creative stuff like casting only twins as extras for some scenes, or shooting car scenes with old hollywood style scrolling backgrounds, or making cellphones 3x their size for closeup shots. Everything feels just a little bit off in the matrix. They didn't redo the color with any other intention than to make it consisent with the other two films. They weren't gonna release an "ultimate" boxset with one film mismatching the others. There was no artistic intent behind it as you suggest.
 
The Matrix already looks fake. Thats why they did some crazy creative stuff like casting only twins as extras for some scenes, or shooting car scenes with old hollywood style scrolling backgrounds, or making cellphones 3x their size for closeup shots. Everything feels just a little bit off in the matrix. They didn't redo the color with any other intention than to make it consisent with the other two films. They weren't gonna release an "ultimate" boxset with one film mismatching the others. There was no artistic intent behind it as you suggest.

There was no artistic intent for the green tint in the whole entire Matrix trilogy? Are you seriously joking around? There's ALWAYS artistic intent for any thing related including the selection of the props, the costume design, the locations, the type of effects applied in post production, etc. As a person who studies and makes films, i'm obligated to tell you that you're wrong.
 
The Matrix is one of my favourite movies and one of the first DVDs I ever bought. I don't own the blu ray yet though—is the 10th anniversary edition the one to get?
 
It's amazing how much more I prefer the tinted version over the non tinted version, it just looks so much better to me and I'm really glad they made the change to it - it just suits the film and its themes so much better IMO.

Same here. As I said before..

The new version has some minor issues with contrast etc but overall the color timing is better. People often complain "it's too green", but (in the following images ignore all but the BD and DVD ones);

Oh look, the original color timing is EVEN greener at times:


And the Construct is not even 100% white like it should be, it's grey:


I do understand preferring the original color timing because hey, everyone has a different preference, but pretending it didn't have its own problems (see the Construct), or that it wasn't even more green / blue at time than the new one, or that it was consistent and followed a logic (the Matrix randomly has a greenish, or brownish, or yellowish tint.. why?).. come on. Is the new one flawed? Maybe, but less than the original was.
 
Really GAF?, a thread about this classic starts with shitty complaint about green tint..... smh

anyways, possibly the best sci-fi movie ever made(top 5 easy).
 
Goodness, has it really already been that long?


Love the first film to pieces. It was such an entertaining movie to watch, and the fight scenes/music really grabbed me.
 
+1 to "this movie is brilliant".

I took a philosophy college course which was centered around The Matrix trilogy. For a college freshmen, it was such a great way to get my feet wet with epistemology, ethics, metaphysics, Descartes, Kant and everything else. Just like everyone else I enjoyed the first movie the most, and while not as great, the sequels still served the purpose of seeing Neo fulfill the prophecy. For anyone interested, the book we used for the class gives a great look at the philosophical dilemmas waged by the movie. This one is for your, Prof Lawrence. Thanks for helping me choose that red pill.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1405125241/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
I remember being completely blown away by this film the first time I saw it. While I'm glad the trilogy exists (Reloaded has some really fantastic fight sequences, Revolutions was passable at best), This movie works so much better as a single film in the story it tells and how complete the entire package feels.

I would have been completely fine if there never were any sequels.
 
Brilliant hero-mythos origin movie. Neo's journey from company man with a secret life as a computer hacker, into "reality"-bending superhero is perfect.

Since then, only two movies have appropriated that feeling for me : Batman Begins and Man of Steel.

My favorite scene.

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Morpheus : The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. But when you are inside and you look around, what do you see; businessmen, lawyers, teachers, carpenters. The minds of the very people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of the system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.

Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?

Neo : I was...

Morpheus : Look again.....Freeze it!

Neo : This isn't The Matrix?

Morpheus : No, it's another training program designed to teach you one thing; if you are not one of us, you're one of them.

Neo : What are they?

Morpheus : Sentient programs. They can move in and out of any software still hardwired to their system. That means that anyone that we haven't unplugged is potentially an Agent. Inside the Matrix, they are everyone and they are no one.

We've survived by hiding from them, running from them, but they are the gatekeepers, they're guarding all the doors, holding all the keys, which means that sooner or later someone is going to have to fight them.

Neo : Someone?

Morpheus : I won't lie to you, Neo. Every single man or woman who has stood their ground, who has fought an Agent, has died. But where they failed, you will succeed.

Neo : Why?

Morpheus : I've seen an Agent punch through a concrete wall. Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based on a world that is built by rules. Because of that they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be.

Neo : What? Are you trying to tell me that I can dodge bullets?

Morpheus : No, Neo. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.
 
I think the sequels get far too much flack. They're not as good as the original, but anybody coming in and expecting the original to be matched/surpassed is out of their minds. The sequels were serviceable popcorn movies that were a little too drawn out but were still decently fun. Look on the bright side, they're nowhere close to Star Wars Prequel bad


I think the re-tinted version looks better. The original in comparison just looks really bland.
 
I think that more than anything else that the film offers, it's the filmmaking that remains the most impressive thing for me to this day. It's easy to focus on the stuff that hadn't been done before, like the bullet time sequences, but the entire production was absolutely top-notch. It seems like such a simple thing to train your actors to do their own fight scenes, especially after years and years of Asian martial arts films, but that was not the norm in western filmmaking, so seeing guys like Keanu Reeves and Laurence Fishburne and Hugo Weaving actually doing those fights was practically revolutionary. And how carefully photographed and edited this film was! If there was ever any proof of how good a film was in those aspects, always look to the copycats who don't even come close in those departments, doing everything they can to show off "cool things" while being borderline inept at showing you how cool they look. Often imitated, never equaled, as the saying goes.
 
add me to the list who prefers the green tint, i already asociate the color green with the matrix and the green tint makes the visuals even better and makes the matrix feels like a fake world that feels intentionally bland at times like nothing out of the ordinary happens.
 
Brilliant hero-mythos origin movie. Neo's journey from company man with a secret life as a computer hacker, into "reality"-bending superhero is perfect.

Since then, only two movies have appropriated that feeling for me : Batman Begins and Man of Steel.

My favorite scene.

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I believe they went out with the casting call to get extras for this scene who were all twins, so that Neo (and the viewer) would see what seemed to be the same people in the crowds of the scene, both to foreshadow the Agent appearing and also to give away that it's not the Matrix but a program designed by Mouse, who got lazy and copypasted a bunch of the "models" instead of making all of them unique.

Really detailed filmmaking.
 
I really enjoyed The Matrix and was pretty surprised by it. I went into with almost no expectations thinking it would be another late '90s "virtual reality is CRAAAAZY" Keanu Reeves flop like Johnny Mnemonic.

I was amazed by the overall production and equally amazed at the success it had in the box office.
Truth be told it made me a little bitter at the time that another 'mind-fuck' film with great cinematography/art direction that came out a year earlier, Dark City, didn't have near the success The Matrix did.

Regardless, this film introduced me to The Wachowski's and I generally like every film they've made since.
 
Really GAF?, a thread about this classic starts with shitty complaint about green tint..... smh

anyways, possibly the best sci-fi movie ever made(top 5 easy).
What better way to celebrate it than by being passionate about your likes and dislikes of it?
 
Brilliant hero-mythos origin movie. Neo's journey from company man with a secret life as a computer hacker, into "reality"-bending superhero is perfect.

Since then, only two movies have appropriated that feeling for me : Batman Begins and Man of Steel.

My favorite scene.

The comments are full of nutjobs, e.g.:

Its kinda of a metaphoric example of humans & demon's per say...... Demons are a unclaimed spirit unbound by time & space but on earth (agent smith) God sets rules & laws for these evil doer's to only go by

Neo is an created image of God, an average human being in the matrix who wakes up to reality.... Reality is merely an illusion of perception, its a subconscious belief/habit that this world & reality is separate from you when in fact it isn't at all.... Past/Future is unknown & real is the NOW... The present holy moment is REAL & has an unlimited potential that we can attain through Love & Belief & Jesus

Jesus was spiritual, not religious.... Religion forces a spiritual bondage upon people... We are all divine beautiful loving & powerful beings of light, but sadly we are lost within ourselves & within this matrix of illusion
 
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