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The Metal Thread |OT2| All Riffs, No Gifs
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GutsOfThor
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Nice! I'm seeing them on Oct 9th. One of my favorites.
Secks4Food
Member
Cool, I might see them. I love their album work (minus Shelter), but I was scared that they would be boring live.
Musha_Soturi
Member
Hey metalgaf, was wondering if you could help me out with something. Whenever people ask what my band is like, or what sort of music we play, I always struggle to come up with an answer. I just find it difficult to categorise music into specific genres.
So, if you wouldn't mind helping me out, please take a quick listen and let me know (a) what genre you would define us as and (b) if you can think of any well known bands we might sound similar too. Much appreciated!
https://youtu.be/xQFG5g4v0Pg
So, if you wouldn't mind helping me out, please take a quick listen and let me know (a) what genre you would define us as and (b) if you can think of any well known bands we might sound similar too. Much appreciated!
https://youtu.be/xQFG5g4v0Pg
BlueScrote
Member
Saw Symphony X and Overkill last week. I'm not a super fan of either band, but they were both fun to see live. The venue was really loud which made me buy ear plugs ASAP the next day. I was a bit disappointed by the vocal mixing of overkill. Their records always have the vocals mixed low, but I was hoping they'd be clearer live. Luckily the music stands on it's own without the vocals.
stump sock
Member
internet famous ZODIAC_MOTHERFUCKER was apparently at that show with you
https://twitter.com/ZODIAC_MF/status/646497747852505092
I was wondering who was in those VIP booths, which were also a terrible location (above and behind the stage). I think I can see my white shirt at the very top right of that image. I was on that balcony.
Cool! I'm seeing them on Sunday night.
I've found that decent earplugs help a lot with bringing out the vocal mix. Cutting out the insane low-end that a lot of bands/venues seem to use is almost necessary for me to enjoy a show at this point.
You guys familiar with Thy Catafalque and Tamás Kátai?
Here is a recent article about them from Metalbandcamp.com
They are an interesting avant-garde band.
Vashegyek - A really good song from their previous album. Long (14 min), but a cool song.
Gire - Gire, An album that Tamás did the drum programming and keys for. Solid deathmetal album with Hungarian folk inspiration.
Here is a recent article about them from Metalbandcamp.com
They are an interesting avant-garde band.
Vashegyek - A really good song from their previous album. Long (14 min), but a cool song.
Gire - Gire, An album that Tamás did the drum programming and keys for. Solid deathmetal album with Hungarian folk inspiration.
Royal_Flush
Member
choodi
Banned
Who? What's he famous for?
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
OK, so since I'm bored and I'm listening to Skyclad (great lyrics!), go ahead and list some of your favorite lyrical passages of any Metal band.
FO-totality
Poet Centuriate
Not sure if anyone posted this yet but Bruce Fitzhugh (Living Sacrifice), Travis Turner (Aletheian, Crutch, Mid Evil, Solamors), and Alex Kenis (Aletheian, Crutch, Solamors, Becoming the Archetype, Synoptic Rise) did a one-off cover of Megadeth's "Holy Wars...The Punishment Due" to celebrate Rust in Peace's 25th Anniversary (which is tomorrow, btw).
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
The two singles released so far have been far more up my alley than Sunbather was. Stoked to give this a full listen.
I wouldn't say far more up my alley, but I'm mostly in the same boat. The new album slays. I think I'll ultimately like it better than Sunbather.
Finished my second listen, so good. I love it.
Seeing them in the beginning of November.
wild wild rice
Member
The word I would use to describe seeing Alcest live a few years ago is "sensual." Like if you muted the music and played "Love Hurts" by Nazareth while watching it would probably make perfect sense.
Have a Nice Life opened. Decent show.
holy
fucking
shit
this is amazing
Space 1992 is as awesome as I could ever want it to be. 7 songs in, and no bullshit ballad filler (even if Frozen tears on their last album was above average). I already know Universe on Fire is good, and a I heard good things about Apocalypse, so if Heroes is good, we have a 10/10 album here.
If any physical-only people are on the fence, the Digipack is on amazon. It took some digging to find.
fucking
shit
this is amazing
Space 1992 is as awesome as I could ever want it to be. 7 songs in, and no bullshit ballad filler (even if Frozen tears on their last album was above average). I already know Universe on Fire is good, and a I heard good things about Apocalypse, so if Heroes is good, we have a 10/10 album here.
If any physical-only people are on the fence, the Digipack is on amazon. It took some digging to find.
So Sunbather is a top 5 album of all time for me I think. I have listened to this 4 or 5 times at this point and I really like it but I don't think it will top Sunbather for me. That's not to say, I think its "worse" or anything. I can totally see people who didn't like Sunbather for a variety of reasons being into this way more than Sunbather. For starters, it's quite a shade more "metal" than Sunbather but to me, I miss that layered, reverb packed style of Sunbather. I feel like New Bermuda has very hard lines drawn between the "heavy" parts and the "soft" parts and the transitions between the 2 don't feel as natural. Whereas I think Sunbather flowed quite nicely in that respect. Probably mostly because the overall production and songwriting was just dreamier in general.
I think everyone should give this a shot regardless of how they felt about Sunbather and I honestly imagine this album will grow their fanbase quite a bit. I'm seeing them live with Tribulation next month and I can't wait to see how these songs translate live.
I completely feel this. I think the opening track (Brought to the Water) is a great example of this. The first part has a sinister and very black metal sound, and then it just light switches to some airy major scale kinda sound. It kind feels like they are trying to shoehorn things together. And then the piano outro...ugh.
I am gonna listen to the rest of the album now.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Kyleripman
Member
Cleveland GAF, I may have an extra ticket for the Eluveitie show on 10/2, PM if interested!
Giant Robot
Member
Birth of shred right there with Uli Jon Roth. 70s Scorpions were so fucking good.
your band sounds cool, it;s kinda hard to place cos you sound like a few bands meshed, so id say traditonal metal, your band actually reminds me of a local band here in wales called triaxis, a little bit, although they sound like they have more iron maiden, power metall-ish influnce and you guys have a bit less of that sound and more of your own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZnOxKQ4NIQ
Musha_Soturi
Member
Cheers dude. Where in Wales are you? We're London based so if you're ever up hear come see us!
Woffls
Member
Always love seeing Scorpions getting the appreciation they deserve. They're easily my favourite hard rock band, and somehow I just don't get bored of listening to them. Probably because they have so many brilliant albums and didn't really settle into a sound for too long.
Dat Mountains in the Sky tho.
Entities was sooooo good. They've really got everything in there, but I guess some more structure and thematic cohesion would make for better listening. Each song feels like phases of sounds.
Dat Mountains in the Sky tho.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
It's hard to say based on a poor-quality live recording (sorry, not a knock, it's just how most youtube live recordings sound like). I'd guess just traditional metal/hard rock based on that one song but it's not really enough to go by. Any studio recording we could listen to?
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Nightwish, really. Therion. Moonspell when they use it
Royal_Flush
Member
The whole discography of Fleshgod Apocalypse comes to mind. It's just such a beautiful contrast to the rest of the band.
Not so much orchestra but I really really dig it when a background choir sings something and the lead singer does something completely different. To hear e.g. on Nightwish's Ghost Love Score or Epica's Monopoly On Truth
Musha_Soturi
Member
It's hard to say based on a poor-quality live recording (sorry, not a knock, it's just how most youtube live recordings sound like). I'd guess just traditional metal/hard rock based on that one song but it's not really enough to go by. Any studio recording we could listen to?
Not yet but hopefully very soon
Even cooler (when done right) is dual layered vocal tracks by the vocalist, although it obviously can't be replicated live. "I AM" by Theocracy is a good example.
Wish to be more specific?
XANDER CAGE
Member
Anyone here listened to Hope Drone - Cloak of Ash? Probably my favorite metal record so far this year.
choodi
Banned
For me, Therion pretty much nailed it with Theli amd Lepaca Kliffoth. Those albums were written around the orchestral stuff. Everything Therion has done since has sounded like them trying to reclaim lost glories.
Everything else that i have heard which tries to incorporate orchestral elements just comes off as silly and amateurish. Like someone wrote a metal album and then said, "You know what would sound awesome? An orchestra shoehorned into this generic metal song." Nightwish in particular is a band that i have no respect for whatsoever.
This of couse is just my subjective opinion and I am always happy to have my opinion changed if you think I'm wrong or have a different opinion.
Going back and really listening through Rabbit Don't Come Easy, it makes me realize how badly talent degradation affected Helloween, and it's kind of sad. My God Given Right was ok-ish, but it just didn't have the needed aggression to liven it up, which really hurts given helloween's album structure that sacrifices a bit of originality on a song to song basis for a greater quantity, which is ok I guess if you really want the room for extra lyrical topics.
RDCE is an absolutely fantastic album, on that note. For any curious, it's on prime streaming.
RDCE is an absolutely fantastic album, on that note. For any curious, it's on prime streaming.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
I disagree personally about Nightwish, but this is how I feel about a lot of Symphonic Metal myself. Generic orchestral compositions slapped on top of generic Metal riffs, and the result is a band that cannot compose either Metal or Orchestral music, and so many of the bands that try to do it just end up making a mess. The two bands I personally listed I feel transcend the traps (Toumas can really freaking compose), and Within Temptation have some good songs (but even I can't stand that band), but the genre as a whole is woefully inconsistent for that reason.
EDIT: I forgot Sceptiflesh! Doh.
choodi
Banned
I wouldn't class septic flesh as an orchestral band though. Lots of symphonic elements, but they are still a death metal band at their core.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Sorry, I was responding to the original question. Yeah, they aren't that, but they definitely utilize an orchestra.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I think the only capital S Symphonic metal album I ever got into was Dark Lunacy's The Diarist, and even then the symphonic elements were used pretty sparingly. There are lots of great bands that utilize orchestral sounds though, both synthesized and for-realsies. Summoning, Saor, Subrosa, etc. Hell, even the most recent Arkona has some, and it isn't quite as overproduced and schlocky as it used to be.
I think that partially my issue with most symphonic metal is that a lot of metal already has a lot of roots in classical and folk anyway, so adding in actual orchestral instruments is just too much of a pile-on.
I think that partially my issue with most symphonic metal is that a lot of metal already has a lot of roots in classical and folk anyway, so adding in actual orchestral instruments is just too much of a pile-on.
no problem, i'm from a little town in south wales called port talbot, next time i'm in london i'll be sure to look out for you guys