Cid Highwind
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Another underpowered Nintendo console? Why expect anything more at this point...
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The Nintendo NX won't sell at a loss
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Know that feel. I expect people to read the actual quote
But then there are people like you. Can't have it all. But atleast, most read it. How do you read the quote?
pixelpatch
Junior Member
Nintendo are falling further and further behind and then offering it at that price... they just wont attract anyone new which is what they need to do
joecanada
Member
they never needed the power to make good Nintendo games anyway. they should pump out tons of good first party content and have a nice reasonably priced system. why go 400 dollars just to try and sell 200k copies of fifa on it? They'll get absolutely murdered in that game. and EA may not even bother so............
James Scott
Banned
At THAT price? You know something? Pls spill the beans
Eolz
Member
You've heard him. That price.
Freezie KO
Banned
If cheaper tech enables them to consolidate both the handheld and consoles into a single scalable platform, then it's probably for the best.
Being "the second console" of choice filled to the brim with Nintendo exclusives is better than going head-to-head with PS4.5 and XBox One.5 with really expensive tech, sporadic online engagement, no residual "service" revenue, and no guarantees in place to secure third parties.
Being "the second console" of choice filled to the brim with Nintendo exclusives is better than going head-to-head with PS4.5 and XBox One.5 with really expensive tech, sporadic online engagement, no residual "service" revenue, and no guarantees in place to secure third parties.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Or perhaps those estimates were bogus. Hmm.
So was the wiiu and probably wii but not sure
mr teaspoon
Member
Can confirm, Wii was definitely the most powerful when it launched.
Yes, Nintendo can do this 3 times in a row. Still when 3rd party even let Nintendo know that they don't want to develop for a system thats underpowered.
While they now seems to be interested again with the nx? Weird don't you think?
It gets even better. With 4y old tech in the nx console they want to keep the nx going for many years. Their longest gen ever.
Wonder if you really think about it for posting it.
Maybe they are just insane and you are right.
None could stand against the might of two Gamecubes!
James Scott
Banned
Wasn't 360 out first?
Calm waterfall
Banned
This is a stupid argument. PS2 launched a year/a year and a half before the competition and it was marketed as the most powerful console with the emotion engine. It was marketed as a powerhouse. Period. Also PS360 sold like 70 million consoles more than the Wii. Dismissing the power of a console and saying that power does not matter is dumb.
Eolz
Member
Yep.
And the WiiU was the first 8th gen home console out.
edit: oh the wii didn't "win" the 7th gen because PS3 and 360 were actually one console? LOL
mr teaspoon
Member
No, Wii released before Xbox 360 and was more powerful even when it did eventually release.
OnionPowder
Member
Wii launched almost a year after the 360
I'm not 100% sure on the Wii U specs but isnt the CPU pretty shit? I remember hearing it performed worse than the 360s
So I did interpret it wrong...I had it backwards...lol. I thought it meant they would have to price it higher so they wouldnt take a loss.
Interesting.
Its also interesting how the yen being strong or weak factors into all this. I wonder does this affect Sony?
James Scott
Banned
It had more RAM and a better GPU, IIRC.
And yeah, I think the 360 was the one that was first with Wii a year later and PS3 a few weeks after that
In one component i thought. Still it seems to get much beautifully games as 360 with better framerate and higher res.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Nintendo more than any other first party has a clear track record: they're not gonna sell at a loss, they won't have a generation-leading hardware capability, they won't (really) give a shit about 3rd parties...
Nintendo makes their consoles to be cheap/profitable for shareholders, affordable and accessible for families, and FOR THEMSELVES. By that, if it isn't obvious, I mean they develop the hardware that they want to utilize. You buy a Nintendo console for Nintendo games. Not to get console ports.
If you think otherwise, you're in for disapointment.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
The Wii U was sold for a loss and expensive though.
James Scott
Banned
I recall them shifting to an American headquarters so it didn't effect them. Could be wrong on that, tho
Nintendo isn't planning games for families anymore. Don't want to disappoint you but miyamoto already confirmed that.
Oh good. You know what the hardware specs will be then. Please share.
Personally, I don't care if it's PS4-level. 3rd parties won't be there anyways. I much more care about the following three:
Nintendo online infrastructure (party chat, friend chat, expansion of miiverse perhaps)
No more droughts. Steady releases.
The controller. Comfortable. Good battery life. Innovative.
Nintendo online infrastructure (party chat, friend chat, expansion of miiverse perhaps)
No more droughts. Steady releases.
The controller. Comfortable. Good battery life. Innovative.
crazy monkey
Banned
that is good. why would you?
Devs probably won't support ps4 neo. Its to much work. It will be more used for Vr and first party if Sony still got time for it. Their first focus is vr.
James Scott
Banned
Admittedly, taking a loss as an investment and additionally charging a subscription service like EA Acess or the original PS+ to make up for it would probably the smartest corse of action.
Though, if it does poorly they wouldn't be able to drop the price any time soon and making money right away would be best.
3DS and Wii U being sold at a loss was probably a prime contributer to those two years of consecutive losses
Though, if it does poorly they wouldn't be able to drop the price any time soon and making money right away would be best.
3DS and Wii U being sold at a loss was probably a prime contributer to those two years of consecutive losses
Poimandres
Member
Shouldn't it be pretty easy for devs to have a moderate performance boost with a PS4 Neo version for little effort? Especially since most games have PC versions these days. I agree that's mainly about VR though.
If common sense is knowing what the specs are then sure. It's not rocket science. They will probably mirror or slightly exceed PS4, but if you think it's going to be a huge generational leap you'll be disappointed.
P.S. PS4 is weak as fuck.
I don't think you know what common sense is.
More seriously, knowing they MIGHT not sell the system at a loss doesn't tell us shit about the power of the system. Like, literally nothing.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Oh my God.
dreampeppers99
Member
Wasn't GC the most powered system of its time?
Eolz
Member
Nope, it was the Xbox. That said, the GC was really powerful and well designed for its time, and a lot more powerful than the PS2.
Cid Highwind
Banned
Which was released 15 years ago...
Chronos24
Member
You guys apparently didnt read my other posts. Let me clarify by saying that this gen power is and has been the main topic between consoles. Seriously you guys have such a double standard. Why have so many posts focused on power if we really don't care about a powerful console?? I'll say it one last time. I feel like people this gen especially are much more aware of and prefer a console to be more powerful period. I say that about Sony because they went power this gen and it paid off. Hell, this whole thread has been freaking out because Nintendo said what they did and now it means NX is weak. Seriously... Let's be honest here.
Are you trying to tell us that extrapolating from a company's past is a bad way to tell future? Thats surprisingly clever
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
None of this means anything without the context of what the NX's USP is.
If it's another second screen or similar tech, that'll eat into the costing for making the console more powerful. If, however, the hook is more software related or inexpensive, then selling at a profit from day one really won't have any major ramifications. They should be able to produce something that's technically superior to the PS4 at a reasonable price very easily.
If it's another second screen or similar tech, that'll eat into the costing for making the console more powerful. If, however, the hook is more software related or inexpensive, then selling at a profit from day one really won't have any major ramifications. They should be able to produce something that's technically superior to the PS4 at a reasonable price very easily.
Not really. Well depends on what you consider "very cheap". Anything under $299 was never gonna happen.
$299 doesn't buy you the best on the market by the time NX is out. But it could buy a decent console.
They should be going after non Nintendo gamers, this is disappointing news. PS4 shows most recently, power plays a major factor in success against competitors. Captilizing on investment is smart and pays off, going down the safe option of cheap hardware and negligible upgrade will limit its use and it's life over a normal console cycle, effectively a short timestamp.
Really do not like this post GC Nintendo, they need new blood. With all the money people say they have you'd think they'd use it (smartly) to acquire and invest.
SNES, N64 and GC wowed me at the time, miss that Nintendo.
Really do not like this post GC Nintendo, they need new blood. With all the money people say they have you'd think they'd use it (smartly) to acquire and invest.
SNES, N64 and GC wowed me at the time, miss that Nintendo.