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[Bojji]

Also as an aside, yall are going to have to cancel xena warrior princess now:

This is her on the show.

Or Orson wells. For his casting of helena Troy in his Dr. Faustus theatrical performance:

It seems to be that historically, castings have just gone to beautiful women without all of this newfound focus on race. Even going back 75 years. I wonder if he faced backlash for this? Likely. But he stuck to his guns. She was a new actress at the time too.

You are really trying hard with obscure examples here (1950). You could argue that this actually was a brave choice at the time, trying to subvert expectations.

Nolan is just doing what everyone else is forced to do right now.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

You can't do 100% Greek actors, nobody would show up.

They did show up (more on that later)

IMO, they also would today. It would be seen as something different and "fresh", not niche, especially today where everyone has internet access and can instantly verify historical facts, details regarding authenticity.

The problem is that Greece doesn't really have what you'd call standout or globally famous actors anymore. There used to be GREATS like Melina Mercouri, Irene Papas, Katina Paxinou, and Giorgos Fountas and Manos Katrakis but they're all gone now. So you'd likely have to rely on lesser-known actors, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. You don't need "star power" as much as you need genuinely good performances, assuming the final product is strong.

I actually think Mel Gibson is one of the few directors who could do justice to a project like that.

It also wouldn't need to be in Ancient Greek. Modern Greek would work just fine and would still carry the gravitas that these kinds of historical or mythological works need. Take a look at Giorgos Tzavellas' Antigone (1961):



Yes, the acting is very much of its time with that theatrical 60s style and emphasis on gravitas, but it still works.

Or consider Michalis Kakogiannis' Iphigenia (1977):



Irene Papas is absolutely majestic in that one.

Sure, the armor and production design aren't exactly hyper-realistic, but the spirit, gravitas, and pathos are all there - and that's with a fraction of the budget of today's Hollyweird.slop productions.

The aforementioned films won multiple awards at that Berlin international film festival, the San Francisco one, Golden globe awards and Iphigenia especially was nominated for best foreign language film, so, the audience for such products are definitely there...

Now, for something different :
IDKFA - brother, for the love of everything that's holy, stop replying to the guy 'cause at this point, he's just (obviously) trolling and rage-baiting and the whole "discussion" is just going in circles, I still don't understand what the guy is trying to prove or who is stanning for, It's a lost cause at this point since it's like talking to a wall and personally , I'd like to keep my brain cells intact...

 

[calico]

They believe they are superior and above the others and the others should either be in subjugation to them, or staying far away from them.

Wakanda is depicted as literally superior and above others as a matter of fact, and prior to the resolution of the movie embraces a form of isolationism which would make the groups I mentioned blush. The post-resolution policy of taking up the mantle of saviour did not lead it to this pinnacle of human achievement; the status quo ante policy did.

The resolution of the movie is this superior utopian monoculture deciding to bless and lift up the rest of the world by finally being generous enough to share some of its greatness with them. If this nation happened to be a white ethnostate instead of a black ethnostate, this would certainly be considered a white saviour ending.

there are in fact several similar stories in marvel lmao

Neat. I'm not commenting on the media landscape 60 years ago, I'm commenting on the media landscape which we live in. The media landscape in which such a movie could not be made, and if it were made it would be received in exactly the way I described. A white T'Challa figure would be considered only slightly less villainous than white Killmonger, and white Wakanda would be considered villainous in general for existing.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Also as an aside, yall are going to have to cancel xena warrior princess now:

This is her on the show.

Or Orson wells. For his casting of helena Troy in his Dr. Faustus theatrical performance:

It seems to be that historically, castings have just gone to beautiful women without all of this newfound focus on race. Even going back 75 years. I wonder if he faced backlash for this? Likely. But he stuck to his guns. She was a new actress at the time too.

I don't see the point in finding weird obscure plays and films that we weren't around for or noticed. If this was done right now, we would have the same problem.

Almost all examples people are using in this thread to defend this as something that has happened before, are using stuff that were too small or too old to hit the zeitgeist. Big modern films are under a different lens.

You don't think India, or Japan, or whatever, would be offended if Nolan made a story like this about their myths?

 

[IDKFA]

Now, for something different :
IDKFA - brother, for the love of everything that's holy, stop replying to the guy 'cause at this point, he's just (obviously) trolling and rage-baiting and the whole "discussion" is just going in circles, I still don't understand what the guy is trying to prove or who is stanning for, It's a lost cause at this point since it's like talking to a wall and personally , I'd like to keep my brain cells intact...

I have.

I signed off on the previous reply saying this is the last time I'll respond. He's clealry baiting me and I'm bored of it.

 

[Fake]

Manabyte did the same thing with those 'bad faith' discussions and we know how this end up.

 

[jason10mm]

Also as an aside, yall are going to have to cancel xena warrior princess now:

This is her on the show.

Nah, that actress is majority white, her dad is white and her mom is mixed,. Besides the show was shot in new Zealand, so it had a ton of non white folks standing in because thats what they had available. I think that actress was based out of Hawaii and thus much closer to the production.

Plays are a totally different ballgame, IMHO, those casts shift up all the time.

 

[DeafTourette]

So... Lupita is NOT Helen of Troy yet there's still complaining... Even tho Africans were in deep trade with Greeks at that time (some might have lived in Greece).... Okkkkk

 

[falconhoof]

So... Lupita is NOT Helen of Troy yet there's still complaining... Even tho Africans were in deep trade with Greeks at that time (some might have lived in Greece).... Okkkkk

Ummm she is. She's playing Helen and her sister.

 

[Toons]

Wakanda is depicted as literally superior and above others as a matter of fact, and prior to the resolution of the movie embraces a form of isolationism

They have superior technology, same as iron man has superior technology, the guardians of rhe galaxy have superior technology and every other superior does.

In the actual narrative of the film, their practices and isolationism are treated as incredibly flawed and is the main thing the hero character needs to reject.

This is literally no different than the jedi in the prequels. They arent all supremacists, but the system they operate in is flawed and that id a major point of the film. Youre acting as if the movie endorses it.

The resolution of the movie is this superior utopian monoculture deciding to bless and lift up the rest of the world by finally being generous enough to share some of its greatness with them. If this nation happened to be a white ethnostate instead of a black ethnostate, this would certainly be considered a white saviour ending.

You dont even know what the white savior trope entails if you believe that. It has nothing to do with someone who happens to be white helping people out. It has everything to do with the framing of the minority populace, not the framing of the white hero. The criticism of rhe white svaior trope is not that the white guy is good and helpful, but that the minorities are written as incompetent and helpless. Something that doesn't even apply to this movie.

It also doesn't apply to this movie because the wakandans are STILL the minority in this lmfao.

Neat. I'm not commenting on the media landscape 60 years ago,

Then why are you criticizing a film that is adapting media accurately from 60 years ago? Why is that a knock against the film that some idiots would react to it in the exact opposite way as you're supposed to?

You said the wakandas are equivalent to white supremacist maga, yet their actual portrayal goes against any and all notion of supremacy. They have superior technology, but they do not view the rest of the world as lesser at any point.

Youre attributing a hypothetical response to a ridiculous comparison(theres been plenty white majority nations that are isolated with superior tech appearing in media for basically all of time and there's been little fanfare about it) but are treating this as soemthing the movie is responsible for? It is laughable all around and a reading of the film so poor that a child could dissect it.

 

[Toons]

I don't see the point in finding weird obscure plays and films that we weren't around for or noticed. If this was done right now, we would have the same problem.

Xena warrior princess was pretty popular in its day. Its still got a fanbsde. Claiming it was too obscure to notice at the time is laughable. Just no one was bothered or outraged by it. Because they understood that this was adpstion of myth and not a literal recreation. Same as odyseey.

Almost all examples people are using in this thread to defend this as something that has happened before, are using stuff that were too small or too old to hit the zeitgeist. Big modern films are under a different lens.

Then maybe that's the problem, not the casting itself?

You don't think India, or Japan, or whatever, would be offended if Nolan made a story like this about their myths?

Molan casted zero greeks in this movie and no one had a problem til it was lupita announced. There are Greek actors out there. He didn't cast them. So I think you're making a false equivalence here.

The POINT is that this hyperfixation on race based casting is not only not histprically consistent, with ANY myth but ESPECIALLY with Greek myth, but that there wss a time when people corevetlt understood that the priority was and IS the performance and the artists vision. NOT what color the actors were.

 

[Toons]

You are really trying hard with obscure examples here (1950). You could argue that this actually was a brave choice at the time, trying to subvert expectations.

Nolan is just doing what everyone else is forced to do right now.

This is the cast for his last film that released on 2024, oppenheimer. modern era:

^^^^movie was nominated for 13 Oscar's by the way.

So whoever you're claiming is "forcing" him to cast minorities, did they just come to be in existence in the last year? How did they get so powerful as to be able to force Nolan to not just cast white people like he's clearly willing and capable of doing?

 

[jason10mm]

The POINT is that this hyperfixation on race based casting is not only not histprically consistent, with ANY myth but ESPECIALLY with Greek myth, but that there wss a time when people corevetlt understood that the priority was and IS the performance and the artists vision. NOT what color the actors were.

Why is Greek myth exempt from being culturally appropriated? What about it makes it unique, such that is stands above other cultural myths with a broader universality?

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Molan casted zero greeks in this movie and no one had a problem til it was lupita announced. There are Greek actors out there. He didn't cast them. So I think you're making a false equivalence here.

Never watched any of his films

 

[Bojji]

This is the cast for his last film that released on 2024, oppenheimer. modern era:

^^^^movie was nominated for 13 Oscar's by the way.

So whoever you're claiming is "forcing" him to cast minorities, did they just come to be in existence in the last year? How did they get so powerful as to be able to force Nolan to not just cast white people like he's clearly willing and capable of doing?

Looks like Universal meets diversity requirements (internal)

So diversity in this movie is even more bizarre. It seems that it's produced by (Nolan) Syncopy and only distributed by Universal? Nolan studio can't meet diversity quotas so they make the movie diverse?

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Xena warrior princess was pretty popular in its day. Its still got a fanbsde. Claiming it was too obscure to notice at the time is laughable. Just no one was bothered or outraged by it. Because they understood that this was adpstion of myth and not a literal recreation. Same as odyseey.



Then maybe that's the problem, not the casting itself?



Molan casted zero greeks in this movie and no one had a problem til it was lupita announced. There are Greek actors out there. He didn't cast them. So I think you're making a false equivalence here.

The POINT is that this hyperfixation on race based casting is not only not histprically consistent, with ANY myth but ESPECIALLY with Greek myth, but that there wss a time when people corevetlt understood that the priority was and IS the performance and the artists vision. NOT what color the actors were.

Xena is a 30 year old show, and frankly, I don't know what a fuck you are talking about since Xena is white lol. I have no idea about the casting or what myths they used. It was a silly show that used all sort of stories. If they used an african helen of troy I would say that was wrong as well.

"This hyperfixation on race", dude, black people and lupita herself is 10000000000% more hyperfixated on race than any white person in the world and would never accept any black historical or famous black mythological person to be portrayed as white.

The fixation on culture vulturing and race swapping have been pushed to the forefront by black people in the last 15 years.

Greek myth is white people culture, it's a European cornerstone. I don't understand why this is hard to see.

 

[Bojji]

Xena is a 30 year old show, and frankly, I don't know what a fuck you are talking about since Xena is white lol. I have no idea about the casting or what myths they used. It was a silly show that used all sort of stories. If they used an african helen of troy I would say that was wrong as well.

"This hyperfixation on race", dude, black people and lupita herself is 10000000000% more hyperfixated on race than any white person in the world and would never accept third on any black historical or famous black mythological person to be portrayed as white.

The fixation on culture vulturing and race swapping is pushed to the forefront by black people in the last 15 years.

Greek myth is white people culture, it's a European cornerstone. I don't understand why this is hard to see.

The best thing about Xena is gay Karl Urban

 

[SlimySnake]

Looks like Universal meets diversity requirements (internal)

So diversity in this movie is even more bizarre. It seems that it's produced by (Nolan) Syncopy and only distributed by Universal? Nolan studio can't meet diversity quotas so they make the movie diverse?

nah, its a universal movie. Having 3 trans or black actors isnt going to satisfy the massive 30% requirement anyway. most movie studios just use their female employees in their corporate offices to meet the requirements since for some reason women count as minorities lol

Nolan just went full retard here and made the wrong casting choices. this happens to most big time directors who become too big and just have yes man surrounding them. anyone with common sense shouldve told him this would be a big no no but no one has the balls to say no to nolan.

 

[Bojji]

nah, its a universal movie. Having 3 trans or black actors isnt going to satisfy the massive 30% requirement anyway. most movie studios just use their female employees in their corporate offices to meet the requirements since for some reason women count as minorities lol

Nolan just went full retard here and made the wrong casting choices. this happens to most big time directors who become too big and just have yes man surrounding them. anyone with common sense shouldve told him this would be a big no no but no one has the balls to say no to nolan.

Yeah, it seems he wanted as much controversy as possible (and he succeed).

 

[MayauMiao]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Xena is a 30 year old show, and frankly, I don't know what a fuck you are talking about since Xena is white lol. I have no idea about the casting or what myths they used. It was a silly show that used all sort of stories. If they used an african helen of troy I would say that was wrong as well.

"This hyperfixation on race", dude, black people and lupita herself is 10000000000% more hyperfixated on race than any white person in the world and would never accept any black historical or famous black mythological person to be portrayed as white.

The fixation on culture vulturing and race swapping have been pushed to the forefront by black people in the last 15 years.

Greek myth is white people culture, it's a European cornerstone. I don't understand why this is hard to see.

Xena great show. Way better than the Hercules show. Actress who played Calisto red hot and she acted crazy on the show too.

As for race swaps where it always seems to see when a minority subs in for a white guy it's funny how almost all the time it's a black person. How often does a white character get subbed for an Indian or Asian, Native or Latino person? Hardly ever. But Hollywood seems to have a strategy to choose that pinch hit methodology.

The thing is I'm pretty confident almost everyone knows race swaps are stupid (no different than if a white guy subbed in playing an Asian emperor or African king).

But for decades the high brow thing to do is just let the special needs groups have their fun to boost their spirits. Or allow blatantly discriminatory practices like hiring quotas or college admissions have some check box outliers to artificially increase morale and job prospects for some groups of people. Or to enhance PR image, purposely have an inclusive cast because it looks good even though in terms or real life population proportions it's totally off.

So it's one of those things in life, you kind of do a gimme to help people out kind of thing.

You can tell there's always a very rigid agenda because if the narrative is about helping minorities as a whole because white people have it so good, you'd think jobs in media would cast a wider net and boost all minority groups. But it's definitely not that way.

 

[calico]

In the actual narrative of the film, their practices and isolationism are treated as incredibly flawed and is the main thing the hero character needs to reject.

Their extreme isolationist policies are shown as having been phenomenally successful. The 'need' to reject them is based on a moral awakening that it is right to share the bounties of its greatness with lesser societies and wrong to continue not to.

For white Wakanda -which would be inherently wrong for existing to begin with- this moral awakening that it should use its greatness to lift up others less able would simply be a further wrong to criticise.

It has everything to do with the framing of the minority populace, not the framing of the white hero.

Which of those groups does the term explicitly reference?

It also doesn't apply to this movie because the wakandans are STILL the minority in this lmfao.

Just as white people are irl?

Then why are you criticizing a film that is adapting media accurately from 60 years ago?

My criticism of the film in this thread so far extends to 'it's pretty bad'.

I am commenting on the response to it for hilariously overlooking that it portrays the ultra-MAGA, America First platform as being wildly successful, and on the current media landscape which would not permit a white version of this movie to exist and which would receive it in the way I described if it did exist.

You said the wakandas are equivalent to white supremacist...

I said (of the hypothetical white version) "it would be considered an incredibly racist...". This would absolutely be the response to a portrayal of Wakanda except with white people instead of black people.

 

[jason10mm]

I said (of the hypothetical white version) "it would be considered an incredibly racist...". This would absolutely be the response to a portrayal of Wakanda except with white people instead of black people.

You just gotta look at the portrayl of Asgard in the MCU to see the counter example.

We have a white based myth source yet its EXTREMELY multi-racial, including named Norse gods.

ANY criticism of this is met with "yo its made up space aliens!"

And we see the big room in L&T where allllllll the other earth based religious figures are racially appropriate, how odd.

Wakanda is not exempt from being included in this conversation, and their xenophobic and isolationist culture would be MUCH better servived if they were originally a carthaginian or ptolemaic remant fleeing across the Sahara from Roman persecution, finding the vibranium, and hiding there away from not only culturally different local tribes but risk of invasion from the hemisphereic super power.

 

[kruis]

So... Lupita is NOT Helen of Troy yet there's still complaining... Even tho Africans were in deep trade with Greeks at that time (some might have lived in Greece).... Okkkkk

Look at a map of the Mediterranean. Greeks were directly trading with North African Phoenicians, Libyans, Egyptians and Arabs, but hardly with sub-Sahara Africans from countries that were 2000 kilometers away from Greece. North Africans aren't black FYI.

The ancient Greeks knew black Africans from Nuba and Kush, through trade with Egypt but they didn't really know those countries. They called every black person "Ethiopian", a word meaning "burned face". That was many, many centuries before the word Ethiopian became linked to a country called Ethiopia.

Besides that, Helen of Troy was not just any person. She was the daughter of the Greek supreme God Zeus and a Greek princess, that divine lineage is where she got her beauty from.

 

[DeafTourette]

Look at a map of the Mediterranean. Greeks were directly trading with North African Phoenicians, Libyans, Egyptians and Arabs, but hardly with sub-Sahara Africans from countries that were 2000 kilometers away from Greece. North Africans aren't black FYI.

The ancient Greeks knew black Africans from Nuba and Kush, through trade with Egypt but they didn't really know those countries. They called every black person "Ethiopian", a word meaning "burned face". That was many, many centuries before the word Ethiopian became linked to a country called Ethiopia.

Besides that, Helen of Troy was not just any person. She was the daughter of the Greek supreme God Zeus and a Greek princess, that divine lineage is where she got her beauty from.

Only going to address the first part of your post. Ancient Greeks DID trade with sub-Saharan Africans via North Africa by several routes such as the Trans-Saharan Route.

I agree with every other part of your post.

 

[rkofan87]

This is a mythological story,

so she is saying that they are not real.

 

[Bojji]

so she is saying that they are not real.

Maybe Nolan will add aliens or something? It's just a fake story bro...

 

[rkofan87]

You are really trying hard with obscure examples here (1950). You could argue that this actually was a brave choice at the time, trying to subvert expectations.

Nolan is just doing what everyone else is forced to do right now.

as we discussed earlier he does not need diverse people in his cast he can just have diverse people in his crew.

 

[Bojji]

as we discussed earlier he does not need diverse people in his cast he can just have diverse people in his crew.

So why not make it look authentic?

 

[rkofan87]

So why not make it look authentic?

he is just a hack and a woke cuck.

 

[kruis]

Only going to address the first part of your post. Ancient Greeks DID trade with sub-Saharan Africans via North Africa by several routes such as the Trans-Saharan Route.

True. But I would never call that deep trade. That would always have been a sliver of the amount of trade the ancient Greeks would do with neighboring countries. All trading with sub-Saharan Africa would necessarily go through Egypt. There was really no reason for Greeks themselves to establish trading posts over there. Trade with Egypt would have been a multitude bigger and more important than trade with sub-Saharan African peoples.

That would probably have changed when Alexander the Great started conquering the known world and took Egypt. But that was 400-450 years after Homer wrote the Odyssey and 800 years after the fall of historical Troy.

 

[near]

Meanwhile...

 

[DeafTourette]

Meanwhile...

That woman is so beautiful

 

[near]

That woman is so beautiful

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[DeafTourette]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Indeed it is. And she's beautiful to me.

 

[delirium trigger]

I used to really like film and I had a pretty good dvd collection, etc. I haven't watched a new movie in years. The whole industry has really imploded.

 

[March Climber]

Meanwhile...

That woman is so beautiful

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Indeed it is. And she's beautiful to me.

Lupita, just like Danai Gurira, looks better with longer hair (specifically longer braided/twisted hair)

Some people just feel built for certain hairstyles, and it feels off when they don't lean in to this. To me, something near the above two pictures hairstyles just fits her like a glove.

It's the same way I feel that Vin Diesel with hair looks wrong.

 

[Toons]

Looks like Universal meets diversity requirements (internal)

Yes, because as has been said to you by many, those so called "diversity quotas" do not require anyone to throw. Abunch of minorities into the cast. This isnt even the only example I could give you

A studio basically has to be *trying* to not hire PoC for them to get dinged by it.

Which is exactly what its trying to prevent.

 

[Toons]

Xena is a 30 year old show, and frankly, I don't know what a fuck you are talking about since Xena is white lol.

Did you read the post? They cast a black woman as Helen of Troy. Thats who that picture i posted is supposed to be. Thats her in the xena warrior princess show.

"This hyperfixation on race", dude, black people and lupita herself is 10000000000% more hyperfixated on race

Lupita didnt cast herself in this movie lmao. Most of these movies youre complaining about are being spearheaded by a white guy.

Lupitas response to being questioned on this has been more mild, balanced and reasonable than anything I've seen here thats for sure.

The fixation on culture vulturing and race swapping have been pushed to the forefront by black people in the last 15 years.

Which ones?

Greek myth is white people culture, it's a European cornerstone. I don't understand why this is hard to see.

Green myth has been adapted and mixed into so many cultures it isn't even funny. It has been adapted in wildest different ways by Hollywood, games, literature and everything in between. I've given you several examples showing this is neither a recent trend nor is it a particularly unpopular one.

Chris Nolan has cased zero greek people in this movie. Yet lupita gets singled out.

It sounds to me like this is not about the lack of greeks here.

 

[roosnam1980]

 

[Ulysses 31]

Why is Greek myth exempt from being culturally appropriated? What about it makes it unique, such that is stands above other cultural myths with a broader universality?

Seems like Lupita really cares about accuracy and representation when it comes to African culture and less so when it's not...

 

[kruis]

Did you read the post? They cast a black woman as Helen of Troy. Thats who that picture i posted is supposed to be. Thats her in the xena warrior princess show.



Lupita didnt cast herself in this movie lmao. Most of these movies youre complaining about are being spearheaded by a white guy.

Lupitas response to being questioned on this has been more mild, balanced and reasonable than anything I've seen here thats for sure.



Which ones?



Green myth has been adapted and mixed into so many cultures it isn't even funny. It has been adapted in wildest different ways by Hollywood, games, literature and everything in between. I've given you several examples showing this is neither a recent trend nor is it a particularly unpopular one.

Chris Nolan has cased zero greek people in this movie. Yet lupita gets singled out.

It sounds to me like this is not about the lack of greeks here.

Sorry to see that you've been banned. I have quite a different opinion on color-blind casting , but I believe in open and free discussions, and that also applies to opinions that don't align with the majority of the posters here.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Did you read the post? They cast a black woman as Helen of Troy. Thats who that picture i posted is supposed to be. Thats her in the xena warrior princess show.



Lupita didnt cast herself in this movie lmao. Most of these movies youre complaining about are being spearheaded by a white guy.

Lupitas response to being questioned on this has been more mild, balanced and reasonable than anything I've seen here thats for sure.



Which ones?



Green myth has been adapted and mixed into so many cultures it isn't even funny. It has been adapted in wildest different ways by Hollywood, games, literature and everything in between. I've given you several examples showing this is neither a recent trend nor is it a particularly unpopular one.

Chris Nolan has cased zero greek people in this movie. Yet lupita gets singled out.

It sounds to me like this is not about the lack of greeks here.

"It's a trend and not an unpopular one". We keep telling you this and you keep ignoring it, no one notice this when they are kids, or in obscure stories. But if Xena was made now, people would react similarly. There is a lot of stuff that people didn't care about then that we do now. It's similar to blackface, people are more aware of it now, but in the 90s, it was used as comedy.

You also have to take into account the bizarre demographics these days, especially in Europe. Everyone is aware now.

Lupita is singled out because she is not european, she is not white. She is from a different people. Greeks are
European, Matt Damon is of European descent, Holland is European, Pattinson is of European descent. It's their people. Lupita is not our people. Again, every ethnicity thinks the same about these topics and react similarly.

And people are going after Nolan for this as well, he is the ultimate clown in this.

 

[Mengy]

Seems like Lupita really cares about accuracy and representation when it comes to African culture and less so when it's not...

This is the frustrating part of it all, the hypocrisy. Say it was a remake of Roots and they cast a few white people playing black roles in the main cast, there would be a huge outrage, but the opposite is acceptable to them. Their rules only apply when it benefits them or their race, but the rules are very flexible when it doesn't matter to them.

Its this inconsistency which needs to stop being tolerated, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with diversity, but forcing diversity against story or history for diversity's sake alone is unwarranted.

 

[Bojji]

Seems like Lupita really cares about accuracy and representation when it comes to African culture and less so when it's not...

Another John Leguizamo.

No one other than Latino can play Latino characters, but he can play Greeks for some reason:

 

[DeafTourette]

The people casting these movies are almost all white. The actors aren't casting themselves.

 

[Bojji]

The people casting these movies are almost all white. The actors aren't casting themselves.

True.

They also aren't getting a gun pointing at their head telling them they have to do it.

Also true.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

The people casting these movies are almost all white. The actors aren't casting themselves.

They also aren't getting a gun pointing at their head telling them they have to do it.

 

[calico]

Not an actual gun at least (yet).

 

[thefool]

lol