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[StreetsofBeige]

Not really. Having a diverse cast is only one of the rules.

Here they are again

Spoiler

oscar diversity rules +5 Starting with the 96th Academy Awards (2024), films competing for Best Picture

Key Requirements (Must meet 2 of 4 Standards):

Standard A (On-Screen Representation): At least one lead or significant supporting actor is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.At least 30% of all actors in secondary/minor roles are from at least two underrepresented groups.The main storyline, theme, or narrative centers on an underrepresented group.

Standard B (Creative Leadership/Project Team):At least two of the creative leadership/department heads (e.g., Director, Writer, Composer) are from underrepresented groups, with at least one from an underrepresented racial/ethnic group.At least six other crew/technical members are from an underrepresented racial/ethnic group.At least 30% of the film's overall crew is from underrepresented groups.

Standard C (Industry Access/Opportunities) Production/distribution companies must offer paid apprenticeships or internships to underrepresented groups.Studio/production companies provide training/work opportunities in production, post-production, publicity, etc., to underrepresented groups.

Standard D (Audience Development):The studio or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from underrepresented groups.

Just two of the four need to be followed.

You'd think such public and blatant discriminatory criteria would be illegal. Guess not.

 

[IntentionalPun]

You'd think such public and blatant discriminatory criteria would be illegal. Guess not.

It's just an awards show lol

 

[SJRB]

It's just an awards show lol

Yeah man it's not like this had a thermonuclear effect on Hollywood output ever since.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's just an awards show lol

Fair enough. But imagine if the awards show said the criteria was white people only.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Yeah man it's not like this had a thermonuclear effect on Hollywood output ever since.

I'm simply suggesting making it illegal would be pretty difficult.

In the end the vast majority of movies made aren't expecting to end up with an Oscar nom, so I'm not sure this has had that great of an effect.

 

[jason10mm]

Fair enough. But imagine if the awards show said the criteria was white people only.

Imagine the DEVASTATING effect this criteria has had on the indigenous peoples of northern europe. What small indie product of ireland, scotland, england, sweden, finland, norway, germany, belgium...on and on where they can't just hire their friends, family, locals, they would have to SEEK OUT foreigners just to meet the criteria of some guilt ridden american organization?

 

[JackHanma]

This film is going to bomb. I had no idea it was re-interpreted by some feminist hack and made presentable for 'modern audiences'. When I studied Classical Civilization in University we all read the Robert Fagles adaptation. It doesn't surprise me to see this story pozzed. The Odyssey isn't just an adventure story for Greeks, it is like a moral/cultural code. One of the principles of The Odyssey and the Illiad, for that matter, is the idea of being a gracious host and a respectful guest. Paris and Troy are doomed to destruction because he violated this principle when he stole Helen from Menelaus. The suitors are violently massacred by Odysseus because they essentially take advantage of Penelope's hospitality. These ideas are so ingrained in Greek culture and it is a shame to see these themes bastardized by Hollywood hacks.

 

[near]

There's no need to make excuses for Nolan's casting decisions. The man has enough leverage in the industry to fund and make whatever he wants, however he wants. He doesn't need Oscar glory. This is what he has settled on… Elliot Page. Hahahaha.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

 

[newtypepilot]

it's the o-DEI-ssy!!

for the modern audiences!! must tick all the boxes!! It's set in ancient greek but everyone speaks modern english!

 

[nkarafo]

There's no need to make excuses for Nolan's casting decisions. The man has enough leverage in the industry to fund and make whatever he wants, however he wants. He doesn't need Oscar glory. This is what he has settled on… Elliot Page. Hahahaha.

I always thought he is a massive hack. I never understood why people like his movies so much, to me they always felt like pretentious, overproduced crap with little substance. Especially his "magnum opuses" Interstellar and Inception. These two i can't stand, not even as background noise movies. They are so distractingly self indulgent.

The only Nolan movie i like is The Dark Knight and that's only because of Heath Ledger, not Nolan.

So yeah, i'm not surprised this guy would try something like this. He is so full of himself he probably thinks he can get away with anything, including but not limited to shitting on ancient Greek culture. For that i hope his career bombs and never recovers. He is rich enough already, he will be fine.

 

[CGNoire]

muse.jhu.edu/pub/323/article/760982

The two great novelties of Wilson's Odyssey are the way she represents a group of characters that we might term 'underdogs' – notably the Cyclops, and the suitors and their allies – in a sympathetic light,6 while representing Odysseus as, on balance, reprehensible. The big problem, however, with Wilson's heterodox approach to the characters of the Odyssey is that she can sustain it only by distorting and misrepresenting what the Greek text says.


For Wilson, the Odyssey 'to some extent7 glorifies its protagonist', but far more importantly Odysseus is, for her, not heroic,8 but 'this liar, pirate, colonizer, deceiver, and thief' within whose sphere 'other people – those he owns, those he leads – suffer and die, and who directly kills so many people' (p. 66).9 And she loses no opportunity to translate in such a way as to reinforce this. One example: Odysseus' possible culpability for the death of some of his comrades is a persistent underlying issue in the epic,10 but Wilson wants to make him directly, criminally responsible for the demise of all his men, and so she forces the text of the Odyssey to mean what she wants it to mean.

Yeah Im out!

 

[winjer]

The more I read about this movie the worst it gets.
What a pile of excrement.

 

[IDKFA]

You'd think such public and blatant discriminatory criteria would be illegal. Guess not.

The thing is you can still make a historical film with an accurate all white cast.

The Northman by Robert Eggers had an all white cast because that made sense for the time period. Same with his next film Werwulf, which is set in 13th centry England, so again, historically accurate for the time period. Eggers has even confirmed at least some of the dialogue will be in Middle English.

However, then there is other side of race swapping white characters. It's a one way street. You don't see historical or mythical black characters swapped for white actors.

I get it. You want more non white characters in films, but a way to fix this instead of race swapping historical characters would be to make films based on non-european history and folklore.

Africa, Asia, South America, Middle-East all have rich and vibrant history that is ripe for a big budget Hollywood production. Tell me you wouldn't want to see a big budget film about Oda Nobunaga or Shaka Zulu? I know I would!

Not only would it spread this rich history globally, but it's also divserty in historical films done right. Non-white actors could be cast into films that celebrate their rich history and culture.

 

[IDKFA]

There's also the feminist translation of Ovid being pushed by Penguin where the female translator changed every sexual encounter to be called rape because it didn't involve modern standards of consent. Please, just stop, ladies.

I was looking to pick up Ovid at some point this year. I'll make sure I avoid any recent Penguin edition.

There seems to be a trend in recent years of feminists butchering Greek mythology. Not just in translations of classical texts, but also writing Greek mythology fiction with a feminist spin.

 

[Branded]

Tell me you wouldn't want to see a big budget film about Oda Nobunaga or Shaka Zulu? I know I would!

I'm sure there's dozens of you!

 

[SJRB]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

 

[winjer]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

Nolan is a complete pretentious twat.

 

[gundalf]

The contemporary treatment of ancient/classical western culture and presentation of their people is not so great to put it nicely.

 

[jason10mm]

The thing is you can still make a historical film with an accurate all white cast.

The issue is that now that all white cast would be considered "zero diversity" and condemned as racist white privilege claptrap, in ways an all black, all korean, all chinese, all turkish, or all 'pretty much anything else' cast would not. And if you wanted Oscar consideration, something ANY film should be, right? then you would have to 'compensate' for this all white cast in other areas of the production or be forced to cast outspoken LQBTBBQ white folks at least to 'get credit'.

However, then there is other side of race swapping white characters. It's a one way street. You don't see historical or mythical black characters swapped for white actors.

Eh, you do, or did, though that was mostly at a time early in Hollywoods history when it was a very regionally centered industry based in southern california that was like 95% white, so the talent pool for asian, middle eastern, or african actors was thin. And of course very early on there were rules, written or otherwise, that strictly forbid or at least made overly controversial, the casting of films with black leads. But of course all that stuff is 50-70+ years ago or more and hasn't been relevant for like two generations at least, even if it is dredged up over and over.

I get it. You want more non white characters in films, but a way to fix this instead of race swapping historical characters would be to make films based on non-european history and folklore.

Africa, Asia, South America, Middle-East all have rich and vibrant history that is ripe for a big budget Hollywood production. Tell me you wouldn't want to see a big budget film about Oda Nobunaga or Shaka Zulu? I know I would!

This is the way, its SO OBVIOUS. But of course the reason why this isn't being done is also obvious. There is NO MARKET for it. The money is, and always will be, focused on the two main money markets in film, america/europe and china, with the latter being heavily regulated. There simply isn't much money anywhere else. So to get americans/europeans to turn out to watch some folk tale from south america, sub-sahara africa, or deepest India, thats a hard road versus just reusing one of the Grimm fairy tales, something from Arabian Nights, or all the other much more widely known stories from european mythology and then just 'repurpose' it for 'modern audiences'. And the historical topics of most interest to americans/europeans are, to no surprise to anyone, the parts that involve THEM. Not to mention the lack of english/european sources for stuff that didn't involve them.

So the Oscars can stick their head in the sand and push DEI, but as the quality of films suffers for having to serve an agenda instead of a unique vision, the ratings will plummet and they will blame the very same audience that they actively turned away.

 

[BennyBlanco]

 

[PatriciaFG]

The thing is you can still make a historical film with an accurate all white cast.

The issue is that now that all white cast would be considered "zero diversity" and condemned as racist white privilege claptrap, in ways an all black, all korean, all chinese, all turkish, or all 'pretty much anything else' cast would not. And if you wanted Oscar consideration, something ANY film should be, right? then you would have to 'compensate' for this all white cast in other areas of the production or be forced to cast outspoken LQBTBBQ white folks at least to 'get credit'.

However, then there is other side of race swapping white characters. It's a one way street. You don't see historical or mythical black characters swapped for white actors.

Eh, you do, or did, though that was mostly at a time early in Hollywoods history when it was a very regionally centered industry based in southern california that was like 95% white, so the talent pool for asian, middle eastern, or african actors was thin. And of course very early on there were rules, written or otherwise, that strictly forbid or at least made overly controversial, the casting of films with black leads. But of course all that stuff is 50-70+ years ago or more and hasn't been relevant for like two generations at least, even if it is dredged up over and over.

I get it. You want more non white characters in films, but a way to fix this instead of race swapping historical characters would be to make films based on non-european history and folklore.

Africa, Asia, South America, Middle-East all have rich and vibrant history that is ripe for a big budget Hollywood production. Tell me you wouldn't want to see a big budget film about Oda Nobunaga or Shaka Zulu? I know I would!

This is the way, its SO OBVIOUS. But of course the reason why this isn't being done is also obvious. There is NO MARKET for it. The money is, and always will be, focused on the two main money markets in film, america/europe and china, with the latter being heavily regulated. There simply isn't much money anywhere else. So to get americans/europeans to turn out to watch some folk tale from south america, sub-sahara africa, or deepest India, thats a hard road versus just reusing one of the Grimm fairy tales, something from Arabian Nights, or all the other much more widely known stories from european mythology and then just 'repurpose' it for 'modern audiences'. And the historical topics of most interest to americans/europeans are, to no surprise to anyone, the parts that involve THEM. Not to mention the lack of english/european sources for stuff that didn't involve them.

So the Oscars can stick their head in the sand and push DEI, but as the quality of films suffers for having to serve an agenda instead of a unique vision, the ratings will plummet and they will blame the very same audience that they actively turned away.

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Historically, Hollywood was pretty homogeneous, but that was mostly due to the industry limitations of the time. Today, access to actors and material is completely global, so the situation is very different. With streaming platforms and international co-productions, even niche stories can find audiences worldwide. This is gradually changing how casting and project selection work, making the whole process less locally driven and much more globally oriented.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I refuse to believe this thing is an actual warrior or something. Or even Tom Holland for that matter, he looks like a clean soyboy you find randomly in the street and gave him a costume.
Seriously, this has to be a satire. I refuse to believe people making this look at it and say "my god, this is a masterpiece".

Its AI.

 

[IDKFA]

The issue is that now that all white cast would be considered "zero diversity" and condemned as racist white privilege claptrap, in ways an all black, all korean, all chinese, all turkish, or all 'pretty much anything else' cast would not. And if you wanted Oscar consideration, something ANY film should be, right? then you would have to 'compensate' for this all white cast in other areas of the production or be forced to cast outspoken LQBTBBQ white folks at least to 'get credit'.

I did put some examples of historically accurate all white cast films in my post. Death of Robin Hood also looks to be doing the same. It can be done, but as you pointed out, if you want to be considered for an Oscar you need diversity in other areas.

I also think these rules are not required for foreign films. For example, a Polish or Japanese production wouldn't need to follow the same guidelines.

Eh, you do, or did, though that was mostly at a time early in Hollywoods history when it was a very regionally centered industry based in southern california that was like 95% white, so the talent pool for asian, middle eastern, or african actors was thin. And of course very early on there were rules, written or otherwise, that strictly forbid or at least made overly controversial, the casting of films with black leads. But of course all that stuff is 50-70+ years ago or more and hasn't been relevant for like two generations at least, even if it is dredged up over and over.

Yes, but that was decades ago. It was wrong at the time.

This is the way, its SO OBVIOUS. But of course the reason why this isn't being done is also obvious. There is NO MARKET for it. The money is, and always will be, focused on the two main money markets in film, america/europe and china, with the latter being heavily regulated. There simply isn't much money anywhere else. So to get americans/europeans to turn out to watch some folk tale from south america, sub-sahara africa, or deepest India, thats a hard road versus just reusing one of the Grimm fairy tales, something from Arabian Nights, or all the other much more widely known stories from european mythology and then just 'repurpose' it for 'modern audiences'. And the historical topics of most interest to americans/europeans are, to no surprise to anyone, the parts that involve THEM. Not to mention the lack of english/european sources for stuff that didn't involve them.

Maybe I just have different tastes to most people. I'd love to see a massive historical epic based on the life of Oda Nobunaga.

They wouldn't need to cost hundreds of millions to make either. If you use unknown actors rather than a listers you're saving tens of millions off the bat.

As an example, look at Mel Gibson's Apocalypto (2006) This was a box office success, grossing over $120 million on a $40 million budget. There is not one white actor or European character in that movie.

And I know it's not historical, but regarding just budgets, Godzilla minus one grossed over $100 million on a budget that was no more than $15 million.

Hollywood just needs to get a grip on it's budgets.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

I feel like this is a massive troll or an experiment. Regardless, it is almost guaranteed that the memes it will generate will be something to behold. Especially if, Elliot is in there.

 

[VulcanRaven]

This film is going to bomb. I had no idea it was re-interpreted by some feminist hack and made presentable for 'modern audiences'. When I studied Classical Civilization in University we all read the Robert Fagles adaptation. It doesn't surprise me to see this story pozzed. The Odyssey isn't just an adventure story for Greeks, it is like a moral/cultural code. One of the principles of The Odyssey and the Illiad, for that matter, is the idea of being a gracious host and a respectful guest. Paris and Troy are doomed to destruction because he violated this principle when he stole Helen from Menelaus. The suitors are violently massacred by Odysseus because they essentially take advantage of Penelope's hospitality. These ideas are so ingrained in Greek culture and it is a shame to see these themes bastardized by Hollywood hacks.

Regular movie goers don't care about that like you do. When they watch the trailer they see an historical FANTASY movie by Nolan.

 

[JackHanma]

Regular movie goers don't care about that like you do. When they watch the trailer they see an historical FANTASY movie by Nolan.

Regular movie goers won't care about this film, period lol.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

The contemporary treatment of ancient/classical western culture and presentation of their people is not so great to put it nicely.

I have been saying this for the longest time, the fact Hollywood gave up on making movies based on history is because you need to have countless rules for these movies to be Oscar contenders, including different races etc. People can blame Nolan all they want but i really think his hands were tied on this one.

He could have said no to the movie though of course.

My point is movies like Braveheart wouldn't be made in 2026.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Regular movie goers won't care about this film, period lol.

A movie of this genre with that cast and director will get people in the movie theatre.

 

[Moondoggy]

What is going on with Christopher Nolan, everything about this movie looks terrible, the color grading, the script and dialogue, the casting, somehow the acting even though he went out of his way to get big names whether they fit or not, I didn't like Tenet and while I enjoyed Oppenheimer I definitely felt like it was overrated, but damn, I didn't think it was possible to be less hyped for one of his movies than I was for Dunkirk.

 

[AJUMP23]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

He doesn't have a phone or social media yet he was influenced by all the hollywierd people to make a hollywierd casting choices.

 

[DaciaJC]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

Boycott this garbage.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Imagine the DEVASTATING effect this criteria has had on the indigenous peoples of northern europe. What small indie product of ireland, scotland, england, sweden, finland, norway, germany, belgium...on and on where they can't just hire their friends, family, locals, they would have to SEEK OUT foreigners just to meet the criteria of some guilt ridden american organization?

Probably zero effect, What random small indie project from these countries is concerned with winning an Oscar?

In fact it's only for Best Picture.

 

[jason10mm]

Probably zero effect, What random small indie project from these countries is concerned with winning an Oscar?

In fact it's only for Best Picture.

There are quite a few low budget indie films that get BP nods, in fact I'd say hoping for a BP nod is what brings big name actors to these roles since there is very little money in them otherwise and what helps get these films picked up by a larger distributor.

These are just a few with a european focus, there are of course many others set in other parts of the world that reflect THEIR 'diversity' which naturally doesn't count against THEM.

 

[SlimySnake]

Nolan hiring Travis Scott because rap=poetry, and then telling the composer to not use the Orchestra because it didnt exist back then is Nolan going full retard. I am loving it.



Fake edit: i should clarify that I like it because he clearly has no fucks left to give, and for better or worse, we are going to see an unshackled Nolan who we can finally compare against the peaks of Francis Ford Coppola, Spielberg and Kubrick. The internet has hyped this guy for two decades as their savior, and well, now we will see if he falls flat on his face or rises to the occasion and delivers something special.

 

[Sohurmk833]

I wasn't going to watch this anyway but it's still unbelievable how this is getting worse on a daily basis. Hollywood is dead.

 

[gundalf]

I have been saying this for the longest time, the fact Hollywood gave up on making movies based on history is because you need to have countless rules for these movies to be Oscar contenders, including different races etc. People can blame Nolan all they want but i really think his hands were tied on this one.

He could have said no to the movie though of course.

My point is movies like Braveheart wouldn't be made in 2026.

Ok got it, Hollywood and the Oscars are more important for that Nolan guy.

But either way, from the trailers the movie has zero mediterranean vibes, so whatever.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Ok got it, Hollywood and the Oscars are more important for that Nolan guy.

But either way, from the trailers the movie has zero mediterranean vibes, so whatever.

huh..."that Nolan guy" needs those Hollywood studios funding his movies.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I always thought he is a massive hack. I never understood why people like his movies so much, to me they always felt like pretentious, overproduced crap with little substance. Especially his "magnum opuses" Interstellar and Inception. These two i can't stand, not even as background noise movies. They are so distractingly self indulgent.

The only Nolan movie i like is The Dark Knight and that's only because of Heath Ledger, not Nolan.

So yeah, i'm not surprised this guy would try something like this. He is so full of himself he probably thinks he can get away with anything, including but not limited to shitting on ancient Greek culture. For that i hope his career bombs and never recovers. He is rich enough already, he will be fine.

I'm in the middle on him; some great filmmaking, and some middling work... but the one constant is that his films think they are highbrow but never manage to achieve it.

Batman trilogy was too heavy-handed for me, even comical in the constant lines about "the hero you need" etc. I have a hard time rewatching it, the dialogue is so plodding and overdone. I'll stick up for Interstellar as excellent moviemaking, it's a wonderful journey of a film, but again it doesn't achieve the kind of intellectual ideas that it seems to want to explore.

 

[Jacob4815]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

LOL the time article says that she is Helen AND Clytemnestra. Both of them!

 

[IntentionalPun]

There are quite a few low budget indie films that get BP nods, in fact I'd say hoping for a BP nod is what brings big name actors to these roles since there is very little money in them otherwise and what helps get these films picked up by a larger distributor.

These are just a few with a european focus, there are of course many others set in other parts of the world that reflect THEIR 'diversity' which naturally doesn't count against THEM.

Fair enough. But there are a couple thousand indie films produced in Europe every year, I doubt many have any expectation of an Oscar nom. The actors, writers, etc. would still be eligible for individual awards. Of course Best Picture is a biggie.

The rule is dumb either way, I just doubt it has had a drastic effect myself. 10 films get nominated every year and most don't have a chance to actually win, and I doubt too many more films than that even expect it.

 

[jason10mm]

Fair enough. But there are a couple thousand indie films produced in Europe every year, I doubt many have any expectation of an Oscar nom. The actors, writers, etc. would still be eligible for individual awards. Of course Best Picture is a biggie.

The rule is dumb either way, I just doubt it has had a drastic effect myself. 10 films get nominated every year and most don't have a chance to actually win, and I doubt too many more films than that even expect it.

It's the principle of the thing. Only ONE race is targeted for "no diversity".

It's evil and must be destroyed. Call me when the BET channel/awards is held to the same standard.

Which, BTW, I'm not against BET in the slightest. Let cultures/groups have their own targeted awards/programming if its economically sustainable. Just don't call out ONE but allow all the others. Equity, bitches!

 

[Madflavor]

LOL the time article says that she is Helen AND Clytemnestra. Both of them!

I already made the decision to skip this movie after that last trailer, but Lupita being Helen just cements my choice. Imagine commanding all of Greece to launch an all scale attack on Troy for Lupita N'yongo? Like fuck off.

 

[KyoZz]

Christopher Nolan Confirms Lupita Nyong'o Will Play Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra in 'The Odyssey'

- Samantha Morton will play Circe
- Zendaya will play Athena
- Bill Irwin will play the Cyclops

Christopher Nolan Confirms Lupita Nyong’o Will Play Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra in ‘The Odyssey’ — World of Reel

This revelation will no doubt send detractors into overdrive, especially because speculation about Nyong’o’s role has been swirling for more than a year.

www.worldofreel.com

 

[vindafarna]

Hard pass from me.

 

[Oberstein]

Article also confirms that Lupita plays Helen. No mention of Achilles.


Dude lost his marbles.

Can't wait.

 

[nkarafo]

I'll stick up for Interstellar as excellent moviemaking, it's a wonderful journey of a film, but again it doesn't achieve the kind of intellectual ideas that it seems to want to explore.

My first problem with Interstellar is that instead of focusing on space and science, it focuses on love and family. Which is a complete waste.

My second problem is that the movie makes the universe feel small. It feels like the characters can go everywhere despite the vast distances and even that one guy who waited for them for what, 30 years, is brushed off like a nothingburger. I had the same issue with Project Hail Mary, both movies make the universe seem small and accessible.

Contact on the other hand treats space with respect and makes it feel like something amazing and beyond our reach. And sure, the ending is a bit lame but it's still better than the black hole reveal in Interstellar.

 

[near]

I always thought he is a massive hack. I never understood why people like his movies so much, to me they always felt like pretentious, overproduced crap with little substance. Especially his "magnum opuses" Interstellar and Inception. These two i can't stand, not even as background noise movies. They are so distractingly self indulgent.

The only Nolan movie i like is The Dark Knight and that's only because of Heath Ledger, not Nolan.

So yeah, i'm not surprised this guy would try something like this. He is so full of himself he probably thinks he can get away with anything, including but not limited to shitting on ancient Greek culture. For that i hope his career bombs and never recovers. He is rich enough already, he will be fine.

I don't think he is a hack. I think he is a great spectacle director who knows how to craft a film on a technical level, but that's about it. I find a lot of his work hard to rewatch. Dunkirk on the other hand is a masterpiece.

I'm sure this will be a well made and enjoyable film, at least for me. But if you're a huge fan of Homer or even authentic adaptations in general, then you're probably going to hate this regardless. You're better off going into it expecting a unique interpretation only Nolan can deliver. Plenty of filmmakers have adapted famous works and completely reimagined the source material, for better or worse. Nolan is no different.

 

[SJRB]

Nolan driving home after that interview thinking "awful lot of questions about why I cast certain people, wonder what that's all about"

 

[GymWolf]

I have been saying this for the longest time, the fact Hollywood gave up on making movies based on history is because you need to have countless rules for these movies to be Oscar contenders, including different races etc. People can blame Nolan all they want but i really think his hands were tied on this one.

He could have said no to the movie though of course.

My point is movies like Braveheart wouldn't be made in 2026.

There are 100 shades of hands tied before casting lupita as helen and maybe elliot as achilles...these feels like super troll picks...


Was casting holland and zendaya also hands tied aswell?