Chuck Berry
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I've never seen Zendaya act in anything. Same with Page after she cut her tits off.
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The Odyssey (2026) Trailer
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Chuck Berry
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Whoopi Goldberg
GateofD
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with this helen of troy, they're fighting over who has to take her.
vindafarna
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I think only in Jason and the Argonauts.
thefool
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tweet this, you might get a few millions views if elon algo picks it up
ResilientBanana
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It doesn't appear this movie was made for everyone and does not appeal to me. My immersion into the world has been ruined by what I consider, poor choices.
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VulcanRaven
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Its so weird that some think that Lupita Nyong'o is ugly. Like wtf.
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pel1300
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It's more like she's so plain looking and a coordinated Hollywood access media narrative that she's so beautiful was being pushed since 2015.
It was a push to "redefine" beauty standards for black women since the most popular black actresses like Halle Berry were mixed race with lighter skin. And it failed, backfired even. Because many people would be thinking "why are they acting like she's so beautiful? Is it just me or is she not that beautiful?".
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SirKicksalot
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Most reconstructions are not meant to be "this is what it looked like" but "these pigments were in this section". A realistic reconstruction would have to consider the original lighting conditions and distance from the viewer, and the purpose of the statue (garish can be a shortcut for symbolism, like a monstrously intense death mask).
Some Roman frescoes show painted statues:
The rider statue of the Acropolis is a Greek example where paint survived. It was probably very intense, like folk costumes. Nobody would argue that folk costumes are childish.
kpopSuperstar
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I didn't expect Nolan to get infected with brainrot in this way. He is now one of those white people who get off by doing stuff like inserting other ethnicities into Euro culture, because he loves the pats on the back he gets from other white brainrot patients.
If he tried doing this with other cultures he would never work again. Hell, Lupita would fucking hate him if he tried this shit with african culture.
I think the film itself will probably be good, but this culture vulture shit will sour his career forever.
If he tried doing this with other cultures he would never work again. Hell, Lupita would fucking hate him if he tried this shit with african culture.
I think the film itself will probably be good, but this culture vulture shit will sour his career forever.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
The awful costumes, the depressing colors, a Viking ship cosplaying as a 2000 year older Greek ship, the fake looking buildings, the insertion of rap and modern language into a movie based on a heroic poem. stunt casting that turns a story with a very specific location and set in a very specific time period into a generic multi-ethnic Hollywood fantasy that has no connection anymore with the source material and the proud civilization that spawned it.
Well, greeks in general and Spartans in particular were NOTORIOUSLY xenophobic and exclusionary, so the notion that a Spartan king would invoke every treaty and agreement to bring the area to war with Troy over a foreigner is......unlikely. Helen herself is has an almost divine origin of Greek gods, daughter of Zeus and a greek princess (or an other goddess). So its a MASSIVE slap in the face of Greeks to depict her as someone from entirely a different continent with ZERO connection to greece or the Hellenistic tradition spawned from it. For Zeus's sake, the NAME of Helen, while not directly tied to Hellēn (aka "from Greece"), basically tells you EXACTLY who and what she was and represented.
So all of this has nothing to do with Lupita herself or her specific hot or not, but is rather a very audible dog whistle about the approach Nolan is taking towards this story and what he likely thinks about the source material (aka he glanced at it as he wiped it off his shoe).
Though if you wanna know the MOST FUCKING BIZARRE part of this casting.....it's that the two Helen of Troy actresses are linked by this fucking guy
Joshua Jackson is like a real life Zeus....spreading it far and wide
Madflavor
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She's not ugly, but let's not act like there weren't a bunch of far better choices out there. Like come on. It's just another miscast amongst a host of other miscasts.
There is a VERY GOOD thriller film in there about a bunch of chads trying to woo this rich AF widow while her now returned husband stalks and murders them all
winjer
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Helen of Troy is not supposed to be just ok. She is supposed to be so beautiful, that it caused a war.
If Helen looked like Lupita, there would have been a long lasting peace.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
He was the best thing about Tenet imo. Absolutely stole every scene he was in.
SupaComputa
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They should add animated Mario in to reference greek fire and some random antiquity plumbing factoid. edit: or just cast Stravros and have Charles Martinet do overdubs.
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Musashipan
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Why is a female allegedly portraiting a male?
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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This movie looks and sounds worse with every new piece of info that's released, and Nolan is starting to show shades of Neil Druckmann pretentious stupidity.
Chuck Berry
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Well, greeks in general and Spartans in particular were NOTORIOUSLY xenophobic and exclusionary, so the notion that a Spartan king would invoke every treaty and agreement to bring the area to war with Troy over a foreigner is......unlikely. Helen herself is has an almost divine origin of Greek gods, daughter of Zeus and a greek princess (or an other goddess). So its a MASSIVE slap in the face of Greeks to depict her as someone from entirely a different continent with ZERO connection to greece or the Hellenistic tradition spawned from it. For Zeus's sake, the NAME of Helen, while not directly tied to Hellēn (aka "from Greece"), basically tells you EXACTLY who and what she was and represented.
So all of this has nothing to do with Lupita herself or her specific hot or not, but is rather a very audible dog whistle about the approach Nolan is taking towards this story and what he likely thinks about the source material (aka he glanced at it as he wiped it off his shoe).
Though if you wanna know the MOST FUCKING BIZARRE part of this casting.....it's that the two Helen of Troy actresses are linked by this fucking guy
Joshua Jackson is like a real life Zeus....spreading it far and wide
Who is the chick on the left? Is that Hayden Planetarium?
JackHanma
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Diane Kruger, who played Helen in the 2004 film Troy.
Revolutionary
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She has a beautiful face but I don't think her hairstyle choices do her any favors. I know black women like to embrace their natural hair these days but, in my opinion, it's just not as attractive as wearing extensions or straightening their hair like in the 90s/00s...
StreetsofBeige
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Diane Kruger is almost 50 and 10x better looking than Lupita. Lupita is an average looking woman you see walking down the street. Nobody is doing a double take when she walks by.
I dont watch movies in theatres much (the last one I saw was Mission Impossible). But I liked the trailer. Might go see it. I dont care much about inaccuracies though Lupita as Helen and Elliot/Ellen Page being Achilles rumours seems out of whack.
My main concern (like any serious looking trailer) is if the actual movie has cheesy jokes and humour. It's like watching all the cool Star Wars trailers. Most of them look really cool like a serious sci-fi flick. Then you watch it and it's chock full of jokes and nerd humour. It's like the trailer makers worked on a different movie.
I dont watch movies in theatres much (the last one I saw was Mission Impossible). But I liked the trailer. Might go see it. I dont care much about inaccuracies though Lupita as Helen and Elliot/Ellen Page being Achilles rumours seems out of whack.
My main concern (like any serious looking trailer) is if the actual movie has cheesy jokes and humour. It's like watching all the cool Star Wars trailers. Most of them look really cool like a serious sci-fi flick. Then you watch it and it's chock full of jokes and nerd humour. It's like the trailer makers worked on a different movie.
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Diane Kruger, she played Helen in the Troy film
now, call me crazy, but I bet I could show the above pic to folks on the street and say "who is this a pic of?" and the two answers I'd get would be Helen of Troy and probably Cleopatra. THAT'S how pervasive the mythology is and EXACTLY how Helen is described. Now cleopatra on the other hand probably wasn't a smoke show (frescoes, reliefs and busts of her exist) and may have even been a red head so the above photo would not be accurate for her. But Helen is famously described across almost all sources as being a blonde show stopper, which is entirely consistent with greek women of the time, even if Diane is German.
gundalf
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I get you but that's also the point why I'm calling him "that Nolan guy", if he is highly respected across the industry then he surely should have no problem to push for his own vision, but I guess he can't, so he is just another guy who needs to follow what others demand from him.
But perhaps I got it all wrong and he likes his casting decisions.
Boss Mog
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When people questioned the historical accuracy of certain things being changed to black, I don't think they were talking about the armors Chris...
Chuck Berry
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So dude went and bought a bunch of gongs and then added synthesizers.
No joke. The OST sounds like it is gonna be just as off as the cast.
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SlimySnake
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Nolan cast Harry Styles in Dunkirk just to attract a female audience to his war movie. he's casting people like Zendaya and Tom Holland to get a bigger piece of the pie. im sure of it.
Eliot Page and Lupita Lyon are definitely troll picks. he's trying to generate controversy before the movie for some reason. both of these are very small parts in the movie. pretty sure achilles is already dead by the time the movie starts and helen of troy gets sent off back to sparta at the start of the movie. my guess is that Eliot Page shows up as a dead Achilles, half skeleton so you dont really see him in his full glory.
Yeah when she has hair she's pretty fine.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Lol.
As if the colour of the armour is an issue.
I also love that he's picking and choosing what should be historically accurate. Fucking pick a lane, lol.
Maybe he's having a mid life crisis?
GateofD
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"Execute Order 67"
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GymWolf
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I think her last name was panettiere...
Fun fact, panettiere means man that make and sell bread in italian language.
