Saber
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Was this the picture in the deleted tweet or something else?
Pretty sure it was different, but because of the background scenario. Her face doesn't change.
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Pretty sure it was different, but because of the background scenario. Her face doesn't change.
falconhoof
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Where did this shit come from? This whole drive to be seen in the media you watch?
I remember hearing about it during the Rings of Power media drive with "middle-earth" fans saying "Now I can finally enjoy this show because someone in it has the same shade of skin color as me".
A) How were you a fan before that was the case?
B) Are you so racist that you cannot enjoy media featuring people that don't have the same skin color as you?
If this were the case then what the fuck was I doing growing up absorbed into Hong Kong cinema, watching Eddie Murphy standup VHS until the tape wore out, listening to Jimi Hendrix and my father's Robert Johnson, Buddy Guy and B.B King tapes, getting together with friends at the weekend to watch episodes of Mahabharat.
This show was so good.
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kpopSuperstar
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"We are representing the world".
You are supposed to represent Greece. Mythologies are not comic books, it's woven into the culture and history to the people who built them. As is the case for all mythologies all over the world.
You are supposed to represent Greece. Mythologies are not comic books, it's woven into the culture and history to the people who built them. As is the case for all mythologies all over the world.
Gp1
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Was this the picture in the deleted tweet or something else?
This one is from Dune. Duke Leto and his Benihana wife.
The other was this one from Odyssey
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Days like these...
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FullMetalx117
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Everyone complaining about these side characters, how was anyone okay with Matt Damon? How did he become Nolan's go to for all the movies nowadays. You cannot get as generic and contemporary as Matt Damon (no offense, he was great as Groves and was his best Nolan role). But my excitement was down day one knowing he was the lead.
Angry_Megalodon
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Another atrocious pick. Everything about this movie is wrong. I love Matt Damon, but he's not Ulyses, the same way Tom Holland could not be Captain America or Superman. (Or Nathan Drake, yikes)
I agree, Damon always feels very contemporary, even though I like him in a lot of things, he just doesn't project an aura of being from another time.
I was more on board with him back when we suspected this was an AI simulation or some other sort of "The Odyssey is a construct" sci-fi concept rather than a straight(ish) forward adaptation.
roosnam1980
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It's doesn't really even need to be faithful, you could do this story set in space, after WW2 or even modern times.
But not only is Nolan twisting the 'history' behind the Odyssey, it's also likely, if he is on board with the Emily Wilson edit, that he is gonna abandon the THEMES that have made the Odyssey a perineal classic story of humanity for thousands of years. It's not just that it has action, adventure, and terror, it's that it encapsulates a man's quest to return home, thwart the very GODS in the process, intellect over brawn, loyalty over desire (you can't put modern values of sexual monogamy on top of this tale and consider him a cheater, however).
AJUMP23
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I think if you change the setting you can make Helen some weird crazy alien and no one cares. It is the idea that they try to do something faithful and then do some terrible casting choices.
yes, this is the crux of that particular issue. Nolan is trying to bake his cake and eat it as well (which is an expression that, while we all understand the intent, has never made much sense to me).
He wants you to imagine the Odyssey as set in ancient Greece, but then he ALSO wants to hot-swap out parts at will. I suspect he will keep the most negative historic parts (Odysseus having a household of slaves, for example, or Penelope just sitting around waiting for him as if she doesn't ALSO have a job to do) and blunt the most positive aspects (rulers were expected to be benevolent and have their subjects best interests in mind, not be cruel dictators, women in fact have a LOT of responsibility and expectations and their own hierarchical system that operates within and alongside the men, they are not just wombs to be handed around).
AJUMP23
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I'm going to do BEN HUR with an entire Indian cast.
Vlodril
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I mean Ulysses 31 is an animation. It's set in space. Ulysses has a light saber and Telemachus has a red little robot friend. Still was great (loved that show as a child).
If it's filmed in India in Hindu and that's the cast you got, why not?
Even if it's 'set' in Egypt, I have little issue with countries casting with the local talent they have, rather than going through the effort to import foreigners. Obviously once you hit 100+ million budget, that excuse starts to wear thin, but no one really makes movies for the WORLD. They are made for a target audience, certainly a target language, so yeah, you gotta cast actors who are able to speak the language, or at least be prepared to dub them, use subtitles, or have a polyglot of languages and accents (the european Borgias TV show had this, every member of the family was an actor from a different country and they accents all over the place). It's why I'm so impressed with Mel Gibson, that guy goes HARD in some of his films, fucccccck I'd love to see him take a crack at The Odyssey, I think he would deliver what we hoped Nolan would. Mel's never made viking film is something I miss all the time.
and now I'm just imagining the chariot scenes done as Bollywood musicals..................damn there goes the rest of my day! Who has a bunch of AI tokens to make this happen???
Bojji
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Matt Damon is a bit better than Mark Wahlberg I guess, but both of them are so generic that when I was younger I was constantly mixing their names lol.
BTW, Today I was in cinema (Project Hail Mary and Mandalorian) - saw some "incredible" live action Vayana/Moana trailer. Why there are no white, Arab, sub saharan black and east Asian people there, only Polynesians?! This is a FANTASY, who gives a shit that it's set in ancient Polynesia, I demand diversity! leftists logic basically, but it only applies when something is set in a white country
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Yup, though in one of the trailers for LA Moana there are some lighter haired actors, hard to see, but might be white actors.
But yes, you are correct, the brush of diversity can only be put to a white canvas, and that's the hippocritical bullshit part. It's JUST the english speaking world affected by this, and they are a global minority, by a damn mile! But thats where the $$$ is, and thats where the vulnerability to be culturally atacked in this fashion is. No japanese, korean, chinese, indian, turk, israeli, thai, brazilian, mexican, nigerian, morrocan, saudi, iranian, etc etc media is gonna give a flying fuck about "diversity" because their cultures are resistant to the infection.
And make no mistake, I WANT an all polynesian cast for moana, an all sub-saharan african cast for a zulu film, an all indian and turk cast for a film about Mahmud Ghaznis invasions of India in 1000 AD. I ALSO want an all Caucasian cast for Aethelstan uniting England.