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The Office: NEW 10/11/07 "Launch Party"

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Gruco said:
The bear horn wasn't justification?

Constant gloating and ranting about an unnecessary, meaningless contest with a web site?

Just seems like extrapolating a perfectly good criticism (Michael) to the entire show without justification.

He did all that before the bear horn and gloating. Unlike many, I'm not even a Jim-hater either, but I find him far less likable (and less funny) this season so far.
 
AstroLad said:
He did all that before the bear horn and gloating. Unlike many, I'm not even a Jim-hater either, but I find him far less likable (and less funny) this season so far.

That much is defidentely true. Jim and Pam get to much screentime as well, more focus on the (now) funnier characters would be great (Kelly!)
 
sp0rsk said:
You realize you've been complaining about this show for the past 3 years.

Really? I've started several Office threads, I've stated that I've watched the S1-S3 DVDs with my wife literally 4-8 times each (including commentary), I've stated that it's the only TV series I regularly follow, and I've defended the U.S. series against fans of the UK series and praised the series constantly. I've got an Amazon Unbox season subscription just so we can re-watch episodes before the DVDs come out, ffs.

Not sure where that's coming from. I don't universally praise everything the series does but I do consider myself a pretty big fan and I think anyone who regularly participates in Office threads knows that.
 
X26 said:
That much is defidentely true. Jim and Pam get to much screentime as well, more focus on the (now) funnier characters would be great (Kelly!)

I'll be honest...Jim and Pam's screentime has been fairly low. If anything, the show hasn't been relying on them for comedy at all, focusing a lot more on Dwight and Angela. It could have been a whole lot worse after they got together, the show could have started revolving around them.
 
The binary code dwight wrote is : 011 1111 011 011

which means absoloutely nothing.. boourns.
 
Memles said:
I'll be honest...Jim and Pam's screentime has been fairly low. If anything, the show hasn't been relying on them for comedy at all, focusing a lot more on Dwight and Angela. It could have been a whole lot worse after they got together, the show could have started revolving around them.
Those are my feelings too.
 
I saw the nail they were trying to hang the "kidnapping" on, but I don't think they quite pulled it off; there wasn't much contextually in this episode to make Michael go off about good sales practices. I loved the car-into-the-lake bit from last week because it jibed with the episode's theme and premise. Not so much with the kidnapping.

Fortunately, there were still plenty of great moments in the episode as a whole.

EDIT: And Jim's becoming a bully? Come on, that's a stretch. Dwight was clearly instigating, and fundamentally the prank was no different than countless others he's pulled, some that have been even less justified than this one (for example, the episode where he convinces Dwight that it's a different day than what it actually is).
 
human5892 said:
EDIT: And Jim's becoming a bully? Come on, that's a stretch. Dwight was clearly instigating, and fundamentally the prank was no different than countless others he's pulled, some that have been even less justified than this one (for example, the episode where he convinces Dwight that it's a different day than what it actually is).

Wrong part, I'm not even talking about Jim and Dwight, but rather Jim and Andy way earlier than that. I'll dig it up when Unbox downloads tomorrow so I can continue my reign as GAF's resident Office hater.
 
I've seen every episode of this show and I have seldom found anything to complain about. At least not enough to type up a blog on GAF.

Tonight however, was probably the worst episode I've seen yet. It was all over the place, boring, and they forgot to bring the funny. There were a couple of chuckle moments, but they were few and far between.
 
I loved this episode. The DVD bouncing square thing (which was something I focused on back in the 7th grade whenever the teacher's computer went to the screensaver), Dwight thinking the system was self-aware, Meredith asking Jim to sign her cast, Phyllis trying to deal with Angela, and Michael realizing he'd kidnapped some kid WAY after the fact was all great. I liked that Dwight beat the machine and that Pam tried helping him through the prank when he was depressed. About the only thing I didn't like was Andy/Angela. I thought there was just too much of it at the end.
 
AstroLad said:
Wrong part, I'm not even talking about Jim and Dwight, but rather Jim and Andy way earlier than that. I'll dig it up when Unbox downloads tomorrow so I can continue my reign as GAF's resident Office hater.


Andy was egging on Dwight and encouraging his ridiculous contest with absurd ideas. Jim made a few side comments. It was perfectly in line with what the character has been doing. Most of his pranks are done just because Dwight is Dwight. Hell, he hid Andy's cell phone in the ceiling for pretty much no reason. There hasn't been any change whatsoever there. You have an interesting memory of things.



As far as the car vs the kidnapping, driving a car into a lake by following a GPS is much more reasonable and realistic than kidnapping a pizza boy for not honoring a coupon. People follow their GPS instructions and crash their car as a result fairly often(At least relative to taking a hostage for 30 dollars).
 
Archaix said:
Andy was egging on Dwight and encouraging his ridiculous contest with absurd ideas. Jim made a few side comments. It was perfectly in line with what the character has been doing. Most of his pranks are done just because Dwight is Dwight. Hell, he hid Andy's cell phone in the ceiling for pretty much no reason. There hasn't been any change whatsoever there. You have an interesting memory of things.

It's an idiosyncratic thing. A lot of people have disliked Jim for a long time, and recently I've started to dislike the character as well because the little comedy he provides isn't particularly funny and typically serves to make him even less likable to me. As I and others have mentioned, this is less important now since he's becomine a smaller part of the show with each passing week. I don't think your observations contradict or even address what I said, and I'm certainly not going to get into a snarky debate with you other than to say that how much one likes a character or how one perceives a character's actions is reasonably going to vary for everyone.
 
Great episode, think this has been one of the best Dwight episodes so far.
Kidnapping the Pizza Kid got dull after a while, i'm surprised he did have a cell.

"it's like eating a hot circle of garbage" :lol

That whole bit had me laughing so much at work, was watching this at lunch break in the office with headphones. I couldn't hold the laughs in. :lol

I'm watching it again.
 
Miguel said:
So is it alright if I draft Jim ahead of you in Yahoo! Fantasy Office?

Uh oh, Office mock draft (based on current, not historical, performance):

1. Dwight- Consistent all season.
2. Creed- Still riding high coming off a huge Week 2 performance.
3. Michael- A lot of fumbles this year, but still the main weapon.
4. Pam- Comfortable in a new role.
5. Andy- Strongest singer of the bunch. Will really pad your a capella stats.
6. Kevin- Like Mike Alstott, always does surprisingly well. And is big.
7. Angela- Breakthrough season, weak Week 3.
8. Jim- Slumping under pressure. Bit of a Jim Harbaugh.
9. Toby- *fist bump*
10. Oscar- Underutilized in the comedic offense this year.
11. Stanley- The Warren Sapp of the group.
12. Phyllis- The Warren Sapp of the group.
13. Meredith- Specifically designed to be repulsive, like Bill Romanowski.
14. Jan- Slowly improving, but still not much offensive punch.
15. Kelly- The Chad Johnson of the group.
16. Ryan- Cade McNown.
 
Stanley dancing in his seat to the website music was awesome.

Also, Darryl with Kelly :lol
 
AstroLad said:
Wrong part, I'm not even talking about Jim and Dwight, but rather Jim and Andy way earlier than that. I'll dig it up when Unbox downloads tomorrow so I can continue my reign as GAF's resident Office hater.

I felt that way too, but Jim's been on down-slide towards scumhood since he was cold towards Pam in S3, warmed back up to her, then left Karen crying by a fountain in NYC. Openly mocking mentally-unstable Andy felt pretty mean to me.
 
the back and forth between the non pam/jim cast was pretty incredible in this episode.

Definitely a return to form for the show.

I just wish they could have michael not kidnap people. It's sorta pointless (and I get the significance, it just didnt work).

And I would also like to add that Angela was strangely attractive in this episode.
 
Grifter said:
Openly mocking mentally-unstable Andy felt pretty mean to me.

Yeah, remember the whole Andy/Drew interaction when Andy came back? The whole Drew gag was quite funny, but I found the way Jim fucked with Andy there pretty irksome. I guess the upside to all of that is that it's made Andy much more sympathetic. Although I really loved Andy when he was a parrotting sycophant.
 
Yeah, hopefully we get back to half hours soon, because the second half of these hours is almost painfully absent of laughs.
 
BobJustBob said:
If you guys think of Jim as anything less than the character on the show you most want to be, you're watching it wrong.
I'd rather be the pizza boy. At least he gets to never come back.
 
Bloodwake said:
Yeah, hopefully we get back to half hours soon, because the second half of these hours is almost painfully absent of laughs.
I actually thought this episode had the best second half so far. Though I agree that they really do need to go back to half hour episodes.
 
Great episode. I think it's because they kept dwight and michael ridiculousness to a minimum.


The whole "it's a club called chatroom" thing fucking killed me. :lol

(before I forget, I really hate the dwight character).
 
I'm going to have a hard time stepping into another GAF office thread, so much gloominess and disappointment. This is a comedy, the best comedy on television IMO and this episode rocked. End of story.

Epilogue.

High level of execution. Have you guys forgotten that they have to move the story along? They're developing a dynamic between Michael and Ryan (and pointing towards the situation coming to a head at season's end) but not forgetting to highlight the huge ensemble of accessory characters nor the entire basis for the show (the interactions of quirky people in a typical modern office environment) and they are doing it well.

I <3 the office.
 
I enjoyed this episode so much. It got more laughs out of me than usual. Especially the beginning with Michael complaining about paper selling while everyone else was concentrating on the screensaver. (Notice that it was computer generated when it finally went into the corner.)

The kidnapping was over the top hilarious. You know that's gonna come back sometime. If I were that kid, I'd have a cell phone. Why didn't he have a cell phone? I mean seriously. He could have had the police all over the building in minutes.

But the Andy thing broke my heart. I knew she wouldn't say yes, but it was just so sad. Even I know you have to give up sometime.
 
I laughed out loud sooo many times at this episode :lol :lol :lol

Probably one of my top ~3 of all time.
 
Jasoco said:
But the Andy thing broke my heart. I knew she wouldn't say yes, but it was just so sad. Even I know you have to give up sometime.
She didn't say no either... and she smiled when she walked away...

I don't think the episode wrapped that up.

---
Paul Lieberstein (Toby) writes and directs next week's episode. Then, episodes directed by Jason Reitman and Joss Whedon.
 
Fifty said:
Only one more hour-long episode after this, right?
Next week is an hour, and then there's one more sometime later in the season. I would assume it'll be the finale.
 
Angela was awesome in this ep, I thought... her responses to Phyllis' web-inspired conflict resolution were awesome... I'm also endlessly amused by the flashes of humanity she shows... be they ever so slight... a tiny smile or whatever.

In fact, I'm a little worried that we'll wind up seeing an Andy/Angela relationship that will totally redefine her. That's fine, but only if it's some sort of weird spiteful attack on Dwight and there's a return to normalcy...
 
Not one of the best episodes but there were a couple of funny moments nonetheless.

I think Creed was high the whole episode, just looking spaced and nodding his head at whatever happened around him. He's my fave character on the show.
 
The moment I remember as Jim completely becoming a scumbag was when he slapped Dwight in the face last season. Really, violent humiliation is cool in junior high and the business world? The character is no more likeable than those asshole jocks of yore, and his (not funny at all) mocking of Andy in this episode was just a reminder. Andy's awesome, btw (<3 Ed Helms, ever since his first Daily Show report).

The first half was probably the best block of the season, so far; the DVD logo watching was awesome. The self-aware website was pretty funny (though I can't help feeling it could've been a lot funnier), and was nicely concluded by the not-completely-soulless half of the most uninteresting television couple ever, Pam.

The second half, however (like the rest of these hour-long episodes), was fucking awful. The whole kidnapping plot was probably the most unfunny, nonsensical thing this show has ever done. And that's saying a lot. Fucking stupid, every little bit of it.
 
Jasoco said:
Anyone see this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co

Creed was in this band. He's the one on the far left with the solo at 1:47 that makes a funny look at the end. (Not the one on the far right like TV Squad says.)


There's a deleted scene in season 2 (from the Booze Cruise) where Creed talks about this, and shows off his guitar chops.

I can't believe it didn't make it in the show, because it was so awesome.

(Oh he also sings one of his own songs at one of the Christmas Parties).
 
I didn't enjoy this episode as much as some from last season. It really doesn't suit this time slot.

However, I do enjoy watching Pam more than I did last year. Pretty hair.
 
Creed Bratton playing a perverted form of himself randomly in a Pennsylvania paper company office has consistently been a hilarious concept. You don't need to know it for his material to be funny, but it somehow adds something to it if you do.
 
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