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The OFFICIAL 2006 NFL Preseason Thread

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ColdBlooded33 said:
They infest California. Namely LA. Most of the gangbanging Latino's still sport Jerry Rice jersey's. They are like a huge Stereotype. And im Part Mexican, so its embarassing for me when i see them. you should have seen the pictures of the crowd at universal studios when Aaron Brooks was there to sign autographs at the raider store...


I saw a movie called 'Raider Nation' made by some fans. Actually it was well put together. I bought it on ebay for like 6 bucks. It was a look at Raider fans with a distinct positive slant. They kind of brushed over the fact that people are beaten up and such by Raider fans and the fact there has to be cops in the Black Hole to keep the peace.

It just seemed like people who weekly get together to be 'thugged out' and the football is just in the background. Well, those are the ones they showed on the movie anyway. I am sure there are some real thugs out there also. But the tailgate looked incredible. On the movie, they showed people tailgating from Friday all the way until Sunday. That was nuts.
 
KC CHIEFS TRAINING CAMP POSTCARD
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/jeffri_chadiha/08/03/kcchiefs.postcard/index.html

1. The Chiefs are still hoping Pro Bowl left tackle Willie Roaf changes his mind about retirement. In fact, general manager Carl Peterson is supposed to meet with Roaf's agent, Peter Schaffer, later this week to discuss the matter. Peterson believes there's still a chance to sway Roaf because the retirement was so abrupt. Roaf had been participating in the team's offseason program through most of the summer and he had even helped convince Pro Bowl guard Will Shields to put off retirement for another year. If Roaf doesn't change his mind, the Chiefs will continue relying on Kyle Turley as his replacement. Turley, by the way, is coming back from a back injury that led him to retire two years ago.

2. Cornerback Ty Law wishes he had a few more weeks to get into better shape. Law had hoped to come into this season weighing 200 pounds, and he had set up his workout program -- he trains with famed track coach Bob Kersee in the offseason -- to get him down to that point. The only problem is that Law, who currently weighs 205 pounds, set up the program to get him down to his goal by the middle of August. "I'll be honest," says Law, who signed a free-agent deal right before camp. "I wasn't expecting to sign with a team until later in the summer. I thought I'd have more time to get my work in."

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3. Believe it or not, the Chiefs still talk as if Priest Holmes might play again, even after they traded for Michael Bennett on Wednesday. Holmes, who has been recovering from a severe neck injury, met with a spine specialist before training camp, and he will return for another visit later this month. Until then, the Chiefs officially have him listed on the physically-unable-to-perform (PUP) list. Peterson also says, "If there's anybody who's deserved the right for me to keep a roster spot open for him, it's Priest Holmes."

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4. Larry Johnson is tired of hearing critics says he's not a good pass blocker. He earned the rap early in his career -- former Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders was leery of playing him because he didn't want to get quarterback Trent Green killed by a blitzing linebacker -- but Johnson's current coaches say experience will change everything. They believe Johnson will recognize more blitz situations as he gets more playing time. As they note, he's only played in 32 of 48 games in his career.

5. Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards wasn't concerned about the strained hamstring that kept Bennett out of practice on Thursday. Edwards said the team knew Bennett was nursing a sore hamstring before making the trade for him. Edwards added that he's excited to have another running back in the mix. "You have to have three running backs," he said, referring to a group that will include Johnson, Bennett and Dee Brown. "People say you need two good ones, but I don't believe that. Somebody is going to get dinged up along the way."

Factoid
With a passer rating of 88.3, quarterback Trent Green is the eighth-highest-rated passer in NFL history.

Fantasy Geek Note
Wednesday's trade for Bennett shouldn't lead to a decreased load for fantasy stud Larry Johnson. The Chiefs still want Johnson to get 30 carries a game. What Bennett gives them is another experienced runner who can be a change-of-pace back. In case you're wondering, the Chiefs will run the ball a lot this season.

Camp Confidential
The only problem Peterson has with Roaf's retirement is the silence that followed it. Roaf hasn't spoken to any of his teammates since making the decision last week. Several Chiefs players have tried to call him, but no messages have been returned. "Willie is a private person," says Chiefs safety Sammy Knight, who also played with Roaf in New Orleans. "I'm sure he's getting away from everything and letting this all settle in."
 
Ravens Camp Update from yesterday featuring the one spot we didn't make any upgrades.. even though we needed to:

It was a sorry performance by the offensive line during a pass protection drill. Several times, linemen were getting turned in circles trying to pass protect. As a unit, the group looked slow, and few showed any emotion after getting knocked to the ground. If this team is to succeed in 2006, this group has to step up.

Oh brother... McNair won't last half a season...
 
DarienA said:
Ravens Camp Update from yesterday featuring the one spot we didn't make any upgrades.. even though we needed to:



Oh brother... McNair won't last half a season...
Well, Adam Terry has been filling in for Jon Ogden (whose father passed away) this week, but that still doesn't sound good. I've been hearing a lot about Haloti Ngata having his way with the offensive line veterans, but the question remains, is Ngata really that good or is our O-line that bad?
 
DarienA said:
Oh brother... McNair won't last half a season...


That is what I have been thinking all off season. This line couldn't protect last year, so putting a QB back there with questionable durability is not a good mix. I remember last year seeing the O-line seem to not even try. Just letting the QB get killed. Looked like my TEXANS!!! :(
 
Has Owens started talking about how he hates football and would rather be playing basketball yet? I did my best to ignore it when he was in philly.
 
TheDuce22 said:
Has Owens started talking about how he hates football and would rather be playing basketball yet? I did my best to ignore it when he was in philly.

Not yet but he will once Parcels starts rideing his ass for him being good ol' TO!
 
Woody paige earned some points with me by defending Alex Smith...I couldn't think any less of Skip Bayless so him bashing Smith didn't do much.
 
wow they sure do hate on the niners lol, im not even sure these guys read up on what the niners have been doing, and what the departed guys did for our team. Brandon lloyd was a huge problem in the lockerroom but they dont mention it...

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New ref jerseys?
 
Tamanon said:
Yup new ref jerseys. I don't like 'em, the collar makes them look like tuxedo shirts!

at least wait to see Ed Hochuli in one before you pass judgment.
 
In 2006, it's a much different story. In addition to four contests against the bottom-feeder Bills and Jets, the Pats have the luxury of facing the soft NFC North in 2006. That should total eight wins right there! Only Miami can contend with New England for the division, but they're not quite ready.

Not to mention the Dolphins are betting a lot on Culpepper's knee. The Pats haven't even replaced Ted Johnson and now McGinest is gone, but the schedule is too easy for them to not make the playoffs. If they can't get 11 wins then they don't deserve to be in the postseason anyway.
 
man **** that NFL report. here is what i love about the media: they say "rabble! 49ers did the impossible! went from bad to worse cause they lost brandon lloyd, andre carter and julian peterson!" if you look at articles from last year, you will see those SAME people saying "the 49ers are terrible. they have career underachiever andre carter, a #3 WR acting as a #1 in lloyd, and julian peterson who still hasn't recovered from his achillies tear and even at full strength he has been average the past couple years." and now that we got some new talent in, more experience and more depth we are the worst team in the league or of all time or whatever bullshit the media is talking? great logic. i can't wait for the season to start, i'm tired of this shit
 
Simeon Rice says **** YOU TOO!!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...2DPJDubYF?slug=ap-bucs-rice&prov=ap&type=lgns

"Right now, I'm in the likes of the great ones of this game. ... It's not by default, either. I worked for that," Rice said.

"Cats around the league, I respect them. They're great players, but they are not me. Year in and year out, Michael Strahan is a great player. There's no disrespect to Mike. ... I give him the ultimate, ultimate love. But he's still not me."

"I'm the best in the game. They don't want to respect it. They don't like it. ... But I'm what Bruce Smith and Reggie White passed the torch to," Rice said.

Simeon has the right idea, **** the media. Lets just start calling ourselves the best ever!!
 
DMczaf said:
Simeon Rice says **** YOU TOO!!!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...2DPJDubYF?slug=ap-bucs-rice&prov=ap&type=lgns



Simeon has the right idea, **** the media. Lets just start calling ourselves the best ever!!

Here's the problem.

Rice has always had a good cast of characters. The season in which he notched 16.5 sacks he had Aeneas Williams, Corey Chavous, and Eric Swann as his DT (and Pat Tillman!). Then of course he moved to Tampa Bay with those LBs, those CBs, and that system.
 
From 2001 through 2004 (four NFL seasons), Philly was the NFC's best team, reaching their highest point in 2004 as NFC Champs and Super Bowl runners-up. The window of opportunity slammed shut for Philly in 2005, and entering the 2006 season, they found themselves looking up at much better teams in Dallas, New York and Washington. Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb have a lot of work to do. Ridding themselves of T.O. was a step in the right direction, but how productive can McNabb be with under-achiever Todd Pinkston and unproven Reggie Brown as his primary targets? Can Brian Westbrook carry the full-time load as a feature Back? If not, who's behind him? The lack of talent on this offense is alarming, especially in comparison to the other teams in the NFC East. The Eagles are still a very good team defensively. With four of their first six games coming against bottom-feeders like Houston, San Francisco, Green Bay and New Orleans, Eagles fans better hope for a fast start, because they're sure to plummet in the second half of the season. The East is far too tough for Philly to recover from the woes of 2005.

ok i stopped reading after what they wrote about the eagles. it also happened to be since they covered the nfc east so late into the article i read pretty much the whole thing but anyway the parts i bolded...


wtf? an idiot missing a chromosone knows pinkston is not the #2 or even the #3 option in eagles camp. pinkston hasnt even practiced yet. its brown, gaffney, basket, and then avant followed by greg lewis. 2ndly westbrook has never carried the load as ur typical feature back but he has been the starter. the eagles RB situation isnt the greatest, but they still have moats behind westbrook. do they need a big back for the short yd situations? yeah but hopefully some of the guys they have in camp can fill in the role.
 
BOURBONNAIS, Ill. -- Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson left practice Friday night on a cart after injuring his left shoulder.

Coach Lovie Smith said more would be known Saturday morning after X-rays are taken. Benson had his arm and shoulder in a sling as he was taken from Ward Field at Olivet Nazarene University.

The Bears' No. 1 2005 draft pick was struck by linebacker Brian Urlacher and then safety Mike Brown after catching a pass over the middle.


"He broke through, a freak accident -- those kind of things happen," Bears coach Lovie Smith said. "Hopefully it isn't too serious."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2540162

And Wellington laughed at me for taking Jones over Benson...well JOKES ON YOU!!!
 
Mrbob said:
Bears defense needs to cool it on Benson! All reports coming out of Bears camp is that the starting bears defense is crushing Benson in practices at the moment. Don't need to knock out a starter guys! O_o

Mrbob said:
BENSON FIGHTS BACK AGAINST THE DEFENSE!

BOURBONNAIS, Ill. -- Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson left practice Friday night on a cart after injuring his left shoulder.

:lol
 
I've been following this thread, but really...what smack can I possibly hope to talk? If we win 6 games this year it'll be a moral victory.

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I mean we've got Adam Sandler on our depth chart. :(

I'm just waiting to see a training camp vid where Holcomb falls over untouched and breaks in half, and Sandler gets sacked on the way out to the huddle, but not before tossing his water bottle away for an interception to a ballboy.
 
PantherLotus said:
KC CHIEFS TRAINING CAMP POSTCARD


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4. Larry Johnson is tired of hearing critics says he's not a good pass blocker. He earned the rap early in his career -- former Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders was leery of playing him because he didn't want to get quarterback Trent Green killed by a blitzing linebacker -- but Johnson's current coaches say experience will change everything. They believe Johnson will recognize more blitz situations as he gets more playing time. As they note, he's only played in 32 of 48 games in his career.

That was my main worry with LJ on the field, I am glad they are trying to address it. I was cursing him out at the Meadowlands when I watched some Giant LB breeze by him and pop Trent and force a fumble, that is his Only weakness... that being said, he is still better than your favorite back
 
Malleymal said:
That was my main worry with LJ on the field, I am glad they are trying to address it. I was cursing him out at the Meadowlands when I watched some Giant LB breeze by him and pop Trent and force a fumble, that is his Only weakness... that being said, he is still better than your favorite back

Hmmm...

Larry Johnson 31 Carries, 167 Yards, 2 TDs
Tiki Barber 29 Carries, 220 Yards, 2 TDs

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051217_KC@NYG

HMMM!
 
Wellington said:
Hmmm...

Larry Johnson 31 Carries, 167 Yards, 2 TDs
Tiki Barber 29 Carries, 220 Yards, 2 TDs

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051217_KC@NYG

HMMM!


Okay, honestly now. You saw that game. You know what the difference between the players trying to tackle Tiki and the players trying to tackle Johnson was. Tiki Barber had approximately three hundred and twelve broken tackles in that game, and it's not exactly because he was particularly elusive that day.
 
Wellington said:
Hmmm...

Larry Johnson 31 Carries, 167 Yards, 2 TDs
Tiki Barber 29 Carries, 220 Yards, 2 TDs

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051217_KC@NYG

HMMM!

^^^^:lol

If I recall we were both at that game and the only way to combat that statement is to include one stat that went unpublished


Larry Johnson 31 Carries, 167 Yards, 2 TDs , Giants D
Tiki Barber 29 Carries, 220 Yards, 2 TDs, Chiefs D

Huge handicap

EDIT:
I still remember that 80 yd run that Tiki had where he broke 10 tackles, i thought I was watching a game of NFL 2k5, it hurt... it hurt bad
 
Nameless said:
I'm not sure Aikman deserves to be a hall of famer. Yeah, he has 3 rings, but his stats are not that good at all.

Aikman was one of the best qb's of all time, bar none. He is up there with Montana, Marino, Elway, Farve, and now Brady. Give respect where it is due, brother. Being one of the best leaders on the field, one of the most accurate passers of all time, etc., should not be overshadowed by the fact that he was on one of the most dominate teams on both sides of the ball, ever.

All 3 triplets should be in the hall, without question. And just so you know, 3 rings > stats, in any situation.
 
Nameless said:
I'm not sure Aikman deserves to be a hall of famer. Yeah, he has 3 rings, but his stats are not that good at all.

he deserves it just as much as Montana's backup did.

And Monk still needs to get in. Then Irvin too.
 
Nameless said:
I'm not sure Aikman deserves to be a hall of famer. Yeah, he has 3 rings, but his stats are not that good at all.

Typical coming from a niners fan. :p

Besides his rings and super bowl MVP, he has passed for more yards than any Dallas QB. He has one of the higest completion percentages of all time. He didn't go to the Pro Bowl 6 times just because he had talent surrounding him.
 
PantherLotus said:
Aikman was one of the best qb's of all time, bar none. He is up there with Montana, Marino, Elway, Farve, and now Brady. Give respect where it is due, brother. Being one of the best leaders on the field, one of the most accurate passers of all time, etc., should not be overshadowed by the fact that he was on one of the most dominate teams on both sides of the ball, ever.

All 3 triplets should be in the hall, without question. And just so you know, 3 rings > stats, in any situation.


Aikman is a solid QB, I'm not doubting that. Up there with the Young, Marion, Elway, Favre, Montana? NO... HELL NO. As much as I dislike Tom Brady, he is a legit hall of fame calibur QB...Especially if he puts up the numbers for the next 5-6 years that he has the last 2 or 3.

Aikman is closer to Terry Bradshaw than he is to Joe Montana. And if Steve Young has better running backs than Amp Lee and Dexter ****in Carter, Aikman has MAYBE one ring if that.
 
Nameless said:
Aikman is closer to Terry Bradshaw than he is to Joe Montana.

Bradshaw was strong and very mobile, it's something "media types" tend to forget. Also, Bradshaw called his own plays about 90% of the time. He gets dissed much cause of the running game and he had Swann and Stallworth. But, even Montana had Rice and the Walsh O.

Aikman? I'm not sure how he fits in. He was pretty accurate, but he probably had even more help from the running game than Bradshaw. Also had a much better TE too. He's an oddball in that he's got the rings, but you tend not to remember much else about him....except for maybe concussions. Not to mention, I'd take Staubach over Aikman any day of the week.
 
Spectral Glider said:
Bradshaw was strong and very mobile, it's something "media types" tend to forget. Also, Bradshaw called his own plays about 90% of the time. He gets dissed much cause of the running game and he had Swann and Stallworth. But, even Montana had Rice and the Walsh O.

Aikman? I'm not sure how he fits in. He was pretty accurate, but he probably had even more help from the running game than Bradshaw. Also had a much better TE too. He's an oddball in that he's got the rings, but you tend not to remember much else about him....except for maybe concussions. Not to mention, I'd take Staubach over Aikman any day of the week.


I was comparing them as far as their careers, not so much their style. Aikman won and won alot; but like Bradshaw he never really dominated and didn't have pariticularly great stats. There was NEVER a point in time where you could make a strong case for Aikman being the best QB in the leauge.

Now on the other end of the spectrum, and as much as it pains me to admit it..Taking this pass year into consideration and looking at the stats Tom Brady is closer to Joe Montana than Bradshaw. He has great stats, AND he wins. Thats alot coming from me, considering that the big reason I began hating Brady in the first place is because of the premature comparisons to Joe-Cool..but Satan-12 has earned it.
 
Is anybody watching the hall of fame induction ceremony? Has anybody had any particularly good speaches to this point?
 
bullcrap. aikman had the benefit of the best offensive line of the 90's. even though i hate dallas i am willing to admit their offensive line was legendary. that is where it all starts in football, your offensive line. take our 2001-2002 squad. we had a top 5 offensive line in the league. ron stone, jeremy newberry (healthy!), derrick deese... and what happened? we made the playoffs and had a top 5 rushing attack. offensive line cannot be understated and if you want to improve your team that is where you start. whatever though, aikman has his 3 rings and i dont really give a crap about him
 
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