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The Official Big Brother 7 - All Stars Thread

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Baron Aloha said:
I'm going to miss Alison on this show. Alison, Danielle, and James are the funnest to watch because they are always scheming. Speaking of James... did anyone see his reaction to Kaysar winning HOH last night? He kept his distance from the BB6 hug fest. Smart move.
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It even looked like James mouthed to Howie to calm down. Howie jumping up and down is so retarded, S6 already has a big enough target without him acting like a fool.
 
Kaysar has issues...just like last season, he's HOH early on(he was HOH at week 3 IIRC last year), and still has his mind set on trying to "disrupt the house". His reach far exceeds his grasp. You can't make decisions solely on super long term goals because *lightbulb* NOTHING is guranteed in this game, and shit can change on a dime at any time...you don't know who is going to be HOH next week, who is going to win the veto, how many HOHs there will be, whether or not it'll be a double-eviction week, etc. Going after Diane and Nakomis now is as wrong as when Howie went after James because in both situations, you KNOW who the enemy is and where they stand...it makes more sense to try to turn the "unknowns" against the enemy and make them a common enemy, rather than go after the unknowns and thus, turn them against you.

Hopefully Janelle can get HOH next week and set things right...but that'll just make her and Season 6 more of a target.

Kaysar's stubborness is his downfall...master plans only work if every segment falls into place, and the way the game is, you're better off eliminating people when you can rather than try pull off some elaborate scheme.

This would have been the perfect time to pull in and solidify some of the "floaters"and unite them against Chill Town, they should have pulled in chicken george, try to get danelle, bring Erica in(seemed to start to go that way thanks to her crush on Kaysar, but who knows now), and keep Marcellas in but keep his involvement seperate from Danelle, get them all against Will and Mike...now Kaysar has screwed them out of any chance of having a numbers advantage when it comes to votes because whoever leaves this week, the other is now 100% against them.

I did like his confrontation with Will at the pool though.

OT...but how in the world is Mike Boogie straight? And how in the world does he think he's "sexy"? He somehow makes Howie kissing Will seem more hetero than his licking Erika's legs....that takes a special kind of gay.
 
Boogie is about 80% bullshit. I wouldn't evaulate anything he does on the show as who he really is.


I finally got to watch a show for the first time last night. Usually I am against All Star shows ...but this one should be awesome. There is almost too many strong personalities in there. So much so, that people like Jase seem mild.


My early picks are James and Marcelleas.
 
Boogie's a great actor.

Oh, look at this, Kaysar is HoH. (I haven't been keeping up).
Get Diane out the door... actually Nakomis might be a better choice.

Ivette said:
Well...lets see...I'm still speechless over last nights HOH competition. At first I wasn't sure how far I wanted to see my season go...but its that very wanting them out that makes them stronger. The more the other houseguest plot against them, the harder they will play.

My season just ended and they are still in game mood. They were just in half-time and have come back to play the second half of the game. So to their ability to stick together so far, I say "cheers!"

Yet once again, these houseguest are playing personal rather than strategical. They got rid of Alison because of her reputation and her big mouth rather than Danielle's ability to truly scheme and manipulate. They kept somebody in the game who will come back and "bite them in the butt." Mark my words.

By Janelle winning veto, they had the perfect opportunity to use it and evict a stronger player or break up another alliance. These people have bigger fish to fry!

Oh well, just another season of people trying to be "hollywood."
Hopefully Kaysar will put a new twist this week and bring it back to game.
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Who would've thought Ivette would be pulling for Kaysar, Janelle, and Howie? Looks like she has freed herself from cappy's grasp.
(Or she doesn't care because she's not on the show and therefore in no position to really act anyway).
 
I have not been able to watch this show. I keep missing it. Did they already have the evictions for Nakomis/Diane? Who won the veto competition? Is Kaysar going to backdoor Will?
 
Suikoguy said:
I was in the game, I would probably want will up against me for the final vote, for the simple reason that people are less likely to vote for him to win beacuse he already won.
For that reason alone, he may be in the game far longer then most anticipate.
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Did you watch Season 2? Because that's exactly how it went down.
 
Baron Aloha said:
I have not been able to watch this show. I keep missing it. Did they already have the evictions for Nakomis/Diane? Who won the veto competition? Is Kaysar going to backdoor Will?
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Erika won the veto, elected NOT to use it. Janelle and Howie wanted Kaysar to backdoor Will/Boogie ... but Kaysar thinks that will make him a target (too late). So, he is hoping that Nakomis will go, because she is the stronger player.


It's going to be one of the first nominations in A LONG time where there isn't a clear indictation of who will be voted off. BB6 will probably vote off Nak ... but there is no idea who the rest will vote for.
 
Baron Aloha said:
I have not been able to watch this show. I keep missing it. Did they already have the evictions for Nakomis/Diane? Who won the veto competition? Is Kaysar going to backdoor Will?
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Evictions are every thursday night(unless there's a double eviction week at some point). The show comes on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays(used to be Saturdays).
 
This is stolen from board.real.com but it puts Kaysar's reasonings into perspective...

http://boards.real.com/showthread.php?t=601

Kaysar's plan is multi faceted, with an eye on protecting BB6 when they don't have HOH.

* Put up Diane and Nakomis to find out if the Mr Mrs Smith alliance is real.This hasn't become clear yet, one way or the other because as far as I know, Jase didn't play for Veto.

* Put up Diane and Nakomis to make the floaters choose a side. Worked, George finally talked game with Howie last night, and George was working the Chill Town angle. Jase was also working as Chill Town servant boy, by fetching Kaysar to the hot tub for the "fight" and being Chill Town style arrogant about it when he was alone with BB6'rs in the HOH room. Marcellas has also been pegged as being a BB6 sider.

* Put up Diane and Nakomis to make Will and Boogie safe. When Will and Boogie think they are safe, they will act cawky and obnoxious, and irritate the floaters making THEM the targets instead of BB6. Worked. Nakomis was crying last night, and as Kaysar pointed out as he explained all of this, Nakomis goes after arrogant, annoying people, not people who do good things for her. Save Nakomis, and she will take out Chill Town, not BB6.

* Prior to nomination ceremony, Kaysar called a conference with Will and Boogie in the HOH, and make a big, positive show of them leaving (as if they had made an agreement with Kaysar) Which did happen. Kaysar did make an agreement with Will and Boogie, it was to put up floaters, an agreement that EVERYONE knows Will and Boogie won't keep. But the whole point of that meeting was to make Diane and Nakomis think that Will and Boogie sold them out. That worked too.
 
Kaysar's problem is that he wants long term effects with short term power...Diana or Nakomis, which ever one isn't going home tonight, could very well win the next HOH(they've both won in season 5)...do you think they're going to care about going after Chill Town? They have two reasons to be pissed at Kaysar, first, being nominated by him in the first place, and second, for being responsible for their closest companion in the house being evicted. Kaysar screwed himself...I just hope Janelle can save herself from the aftermath.

It doesn't make sense to try to kick off some epic chain reaction unless you have the numbers to secure that plan.
 
S6 is dominating.

Notes:

-howie is dumb. dumb dumb.
-will is talking as big as he did last time but still not winning anything
-danielle was off by two minutes, james by one
-Mr. and Mrs Smith lol
-george is cleverly hiding behind the guise of being a feeble old man
 
Janelle needs to stop trying to win every competition.Or else, she is going to be the first one to go as soon as they get the chance to put someone up.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Janelle needs to stop trying to win every competition. She is going to be the first one to go as soon as they get the chance to put someone up.
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Won't matter if she wins every competition! :D

I think she's so targeted right now that it won't matter. The problem is that the producers loaded the house with S6 and powerful floaters from previous season...and then two members of Chilltown.

The balance is just not there.
 
Diablos said:
The sky is blue

I hope he's the first one out from S6... he honestly doesn't deserve to be there.
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He's so dumb that he actually hurts S6. The celebrating after winning competitions is dangerous, AND he is a disaster in any kind of decision-making position. He ruined them last year.
 
I'm having a hard time keeping track who is friendly to S6 and who is friendly to Chill Town. Tell me if I got this right.

S6:
Howie
James
Janelle
Kaysar

S6 Friendly:
Danielle
Erika
Marcellas

Chill Town:
Will
Boogie
Jase(kind of)

Chill Town Friendly:
Diane
George
 
S6:
Howie
James
Janelle
Kaysar

S6 Friendly:
Danielle
Erika
Marcellas

Chill Town:
Will
Boogie
Jase(kind of)

Chill Town Friendly:
Diane

Without a clue:
George

That's how I'd put it. Jase has GOT to realize that he's the odd man out.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
He's so dumb that he actually hurts S6. The celebrating after winning competitions is dangerous, AND he is a disaster in any kind of decision-making position. He ruined them last year.
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He ruined the whole SEASON. That would have been the greatest season in the history of the US show. What. a. dumbass.

Haha, Nakomis is out.

I really did have respect for her until I saw her little outburst raw and unfliltered. I'm surprised she hasn't killed herself. My god.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
She's an S6 friendly (at the worst she's not a hostile), so I wasn't at all on the edge of my seat.
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Agreed...I wouldn't have been too worried if she won as I think she'd have gone after Will/Boogie and possibly Jase.

ToxicAdam said:
Janelle needs to stop trying to win every competition.Or else, she is going to be the first one to go as soon as they get the chance to put someone up.
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Why? She's already a target just cuz, and her capabilities are well known so hiding them will do no good...something like this is just good practice anyway, you never know when a skill either physical or mental will come in handy, so best to keep sharp.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Janelle needs to stop trying to win every competition.Or else, she is going to be the first one to go as soon as they get the chance to put someone up.
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She's gonna be a primary target regardless, duders.
 
Janelle needs to try and always win. She will go if she doesn't. Janelle, next to Will is probably the smartest player in Big Brother history.

I wonder what Diane will do if she figures out it was Will who was one of the two to vote her out.
 
i don't understand why anybody ever rooted for Season 6. Howie is borderline retarded. Kayser takes himself waaaay too seriously. And Janelle comes off as trying to hard to be all conniving and smart as a player. I dont' see why the house doesn't just revolt and get rid of them. Chilltown FTW.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
i don't understand why anybody ever rooted for Season 6. Howie is borderline retarded. Kayser takes himself waaaay too seriously. And Janelle comes off as trying to hard to be all conniving and smart as a player. I dont' see why the house doesn't just revolt and get rid of them. Chilltown FTW.
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Howie ruined S6 and therefore is a dumbass. Not worth another minute of screentime, but here we are.

Kaysar let his emotions get in the way, but he's a really good player outside of that. I don't mind that he's back, but he ruined his chances of being one of the best BB players of all time if you ask me.

Janelle is a good physical and mental player. Her personality might be kind of fake, but she's a good player. How should I say it... I wouldn't want her as a friend, because she's a gold-digging snob (but good at hiding it with her charm). But I wouldn't mind having her on my team. :P

James isn't what he's cracked up to be, it's just that the bastard got extremely lucky last year.

Looking back, I think the only reason why we all liked the S6 crew so much is because the OTHER HALF of the house was just PATHETIC (Cappy, Maggie, Ivette, etc.). We're talking worst players in BB history. As bad as Howie.

I still haven't watched an ep since the first one... dunno why I should even care. I'll have to check out Jase flipping out.
 
Jase was being typical Jase. Yawn. He should be glad his sorry ass got back on the show. I watched that for about 2 minutes.

Besides, he has no room to talk. Let's not forget his BB5 love interest, Holly. You wanna talk about a slut...?

Sooo I finally watched an ep (the latest), James is in control finally. I think Danielle was right about the George plan backfiring. They should just get Will out while they still can. There will be no final four of BB6 people. They need to get this image out of their heads. Because first of all, James really isn't committed to that anyway. They need to start playing the game for the moment, and not what will never be or NONE of them will have a chance of getting to the final four. If they're smart, one or two of them could manage to make it there I'd guess. But getting rid of Chicken George over Will is dumb.

This show has some bizarro moments. Like when Nakomis gets evicted, Jase is still in the house. Just goes to show you how the all stars show definitely can render someone who was once the strongest person in a given season to one of the first out. Which totally ****s up the mark they made on the show as being such a powerful player in the past. Bottom line: If you're one of the first few out, when you get home, you are probably wishing that you never did the show because the most current (and probably final) thing you did on Big Brother was... well, get owned.
 
Holy shit! Will just gave the best "Don't veto me" speech ever!

Quotes:
"I hate you all."
"Please vote me off."
"I'm going to do my best to make sure you all eat slop for the rest of the game."
...and more...

And the best thing is, he probably won't even get voted off.

I'm going to go on record and say that he's the best player of any reality game show, ever.
 
Systems_id said:
I seriously need to see Big Brother 2. I really want to know how Will pulled that off.
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Easy. He's a manipulative genius. In Big Brother 2, he told everybody that he was lying to them constantly, and yet they kept keeping him around. He just made sure that they consistently hated someone worse then him on a week to week basis.
 
ChunderMan said:
Easy. He's a manipulative genius. In Big Brother 2, he told everybody that he was lying to them constantly, and yet they kept keeping him around. He just made sure that they consistently hated someone worse then him on a week to week basis.
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What he said about creating a target so huge that it's invisible definately makes sense. When I head him basically say he didn't want to compete I was thinking "What the hell are you doing? This is the super genius of the group?". After today though, I am starting to believe in his strategy. BB6 has the perfect oppurtunity to get Will out yet it seems like they're still going after Jase.
 
Will threw every competiton in Big Brother 2 as well and he won. The problem is can the strategy work twice? Regardless he is the greatest player in reality tv history.
 
Yep, my guess is that he still won't get voted off.

I'm with Janelle...get rid of Jase...as much as Will needs to go, Jase is a stronger competitor, and now that he's backdoored, slam it shut on his ass. I don't get Kaysar and James' obsession with getting chicken george out...so much of this game depends on opportunity, and you'll have far more chances to take out C.G. than Will or Jase. Instead of targetting the floaters, they should have courted the floaters...use their numbers to whittle away at chilltown, and then go after the floaters. I couldn't believe James tried to make a pact with James..."I gave my word"...screw your word...nobody's word in this game means shit. You can't trust Jase...why can't James see that Jase is basically playing the role of "S6 James". Playing both sides, telling everyone what they want to hear...and if that mr.&mrs smith thing was true, that's another similarity...denying he's playing together with a female player.

Oh well, at least it's between Will and Jase now so whoever goes it's a good outcome.

Will isn't completely invisible though...he may be hiding in plain sight, but Kaysar is completely on to him...he knows Will is playing up the "kick me out" bit to the extreme...he knows nothing Will says or does is in the interest of anyone else but himself.

Btw, IMO this veto comp was tailor made for C.G. to win it...it had no thinking or physical parts to it...dip into a blueberry filled bathtub? Cut all your hair off? Eat slop? If he couldn't win that kind of competition he'd definitely confirm his "useless" status.
 
OmniGamer said:
Will isn't completely invisible though...he may be hiding in plain sight, but Kaysar is completely on to him...he knows Will is playing up the "kick me out" bit to the extreme...he knows nothing Will says or does is in the interest of anyone else but himself.
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Exactly. But that's just the thing, isn't it? Not only is Kaysar completely on to him, everyone is. That's his strategy, let everyone think they'll take care of him eventually... but then he keeps on just sliding by. I watched in awe when he won BB2, and if he somehow, (and I don't think he will, BTW), pulls this off, I will officially declare myself a Will fanboy, and write him in for every presidential election until the day I die.
 
Watched the last 30 minutes.

Get rid of whoever you want, it's a win/win situation. Jase once again proves to be utterly worthless. BB5 had so many better players. Lori deserved a second chance, then there's Will (not to be confused with Dr. Will obviously), and even Marvin. In fact two of those three, as far as I'm concerned, should have been in there with Nakomis. It would have been a much more interesting game. Forget whiny Diane and stupid Jase.

And Will isn't going to be pulling a BB2-style win again. Even if he makes it to the end, he needs the votes of all the other houseguests when this game is over, and they're not going to be cool with giving it to someone who already won a previous season. So the only concern now is, how much longer will Dr. Will stick around to influence an outing of a houseguest that we may not want to see leave so soon? He's still very manipulative, but everyone knows everyone else's history. The irony... people would ONLY take him far as a potential pawn and nothing more. There's not a chance in hell he will win. His only assured vote is... Boogie.

Although I don't care much for Howie, it is nice to see BB6 in power, AND carrying out their plans as they would have without stupid mistakes being made to throw everything off. At the same time, I would like to see the BB6 crew down to two or perhaps three. I definitely want at least a couple of these people to make it far, but not all four... I don't want a repeat of S6 the whole way through. Kaysar and James as the final two BB6 people would be awesome.
 
Yep...even if he does somehow make it to final 2, the jury would have to be completely out of their minds to give him the money again.

Kaysar better hope either himself or Janelle(or Howie...*shudder*) gets HOH this week since he's SOL for the veto comp.
 
Its funny you guys talk about that. I was just reading live feed transcripts, and Howie and James said that if Will makes it to the final 2. They would vote for him. :lol

They are all in awe of him.
 
OmniGamer said:
Yep...even if he does somehow make it to final 2, the jury would have to be completely out of their minds to give him the money again.

Kaysar better hope either himself or Janelle(or Howie...*shudder*) gets HOH this week since he's SOL for the veto comp.
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Nah. They're not going to get that lucky. I fully expect after this eviction, for the NEXT evicted houseguest to be from S6. It'll probably be Janelle. I can see this coming from a mile away. Janelle WILL be the first one from S6 gone, I'm pretty sure. She's definitely the best competetor. Kaysar and James are good mentally... and Howie is pretty worthless because he's such an idiot to begin with. Not even enough brains to use his brawns unless he gets really lucky.

There's a reason why Howie sucks. If Kaysar never won HoH during the second week of BB6, I'm pretty sure Howie would have tried to dominate the house with people like Eric. I'm serious. He was kind of indifferent up to that point. Howie is a pretty careless guy and just goes with the power without doing much HIMSELF, but once he makes the decision he sticks with it and then becomes very loyal and defending of whoever he's with. But you can just tell that he really doesn't care, he's just grateful that Kaysar and co. took him under their wing. Whereas people like Janelle, Kaysar, and James put a lot of thought and planning into everything and really work as a team. Basically, Howie's an extra body in the alliance. If Kaysar and Janelle were smart, they'd make him the expendable one and not James.

ToxicAdam said:
Its funny you guys talk about that. I was just reading live feed transcripts, and Howie and James said that if Will makes it to the final 2. They would vote for him. :lol

They are all in awe of him.
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****ing morons... wtf are they thinking? In awe of Will? Why? They should be in awe of themselves, they're just as if not more popular than Will. They don't need to respect the guy... besides, he kinda hates them anyway.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Its funny you guys talk about that. I was just reading live feed transcripts, and Howie and James said that if Will makes it to the final 2. They would vote for him. :lol

They are all in awe of him.
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Well yeah, anything is possible...but they'd still be out of their minds. We see this kind of crap all the time in Survivor, there's always that "so bad he/she's good" mentality, basically rewarding them for their blatantness and for playing the game "hardcore". Pheh...if they hand this season over to Will they deserve to penny-less and broke for the rest of their lives(esp. the "i'm broke" whiners like Diane).
 
i can definatley see people voting for Will for the money AGAIN, if there continues to be bad blood between some of the other houseguests (you think Jase, for example, would give the money to a S6 player over Will?) and out of respect for how much of a badass he is. Will>>>>Season6. He will play them like violins.
 
ARE YOU KIDDING ME

SHE WON AGAIN :lol

I really didn't wanna be a BB6 fanboy again, but dammit, they're getting everything right this time. That's admirable.
 
Yeah, what did Dr. Will call him? "Big boy sittin' down" or something? :lol He was right.

Janelle will be the first evicted from S6 unless she gets out of it. But Howie is the one that DESERVES to go first.
 
Howie never pulls his weight ... the only reason he won HoH last year was because someone let him. Then he fuqed the game up. :lol


Will is an awesome personality, hopefully they keep him on for a few more weeks. Kind of a hard decision on who to put up. Boogie is one for sure ... but who with him? Chicken George or Will?
 
I don't know. I think it's time to get Will out... but at the same time, I find it hard to believe that he will be able to run with it AND win. He does have a funny personality, even if a smartass. Might as well keep him around for a while, but he'll probably mess with S6, which I now will not like because sadly I'm a fanboy again. So it might be better to target him... or other people. I just don't know. But they could also put up Diane, Boogie, Danielle, George. Although, I do like George. He's proven himself as a worthy player. And as far as I'm concerned, this is his _first_ Big Brother. He was from BB1. Completely different game (European/Australian/British/Swedish/etc. version). Good for him.

Also, I honestly think S6 was safe when it got down to Marcellas, Kaysar and Janelle. You could tell by the way Marcellas was looking at them. If the house eventually splits in two, I see Marcellas with the S6 people for sure. At least until the numbers get lower and everyone has to start thinking as individuals and not alliances.

And, I'm glad Jase is gone. Good riddance. What a waste. S5 had sooo many better people. Should've put Marvin in there.

As for S3... why put in Danielle when you have players like Roddy from that season? That dude was a badass! Not to mention, Danielle should've been evicted the first week, all the shit she was talking fell back on Alison.

They could have made better decisions on people to pick.
 
ToxicAdam said:
Howie never pulls his weight ... the only reason he won HoH last year was because someone let him. Then he fuqed the game up. :lol


Will is an awesome personality, hopefully they keep him on for a few more weeks. Kind of a hard decision on who to put up. Boogie is one for sure ... but who with him? Chicken George or Will?
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Yeah Rachel let him win it because she had already won it the first week.

Wow...I knew Jase was going, but didn't expect a 9 to 0 vote.

GO JANELLE! GO SEASON 6!

It kind of seemed that Marcellas threw that last question though...it was an easy one and there was enough time for him to ring in before Janelle...guess he doesn't feel he's a threat and would rather not risk making a target of himself.

At first impulse I was like "Damn Kaysar" when he kicked Diane out of the game, like it was some residual fallout from his HOH, but I guess in this kind of competiton she could have potentially won, so it made sense.

Howie still hasn't earned his keep, but he's a big dumb house clown who provides occasional comic relief, is an easy vote and another body for veto comps and such...it's best if he doesn't win HOH because I sure as hell don't trust him with the position. I'm also glad Kaysar didn't win again because he's just too over-reaching with his nominations. Hopefully with Jase gone(a big worry of Janelle's), she'll put up Will/Boogie, or Diane...I hope to god they don't go after Chicken George again right now...mess up Chill town.
 
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