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The Official Halo 3: ODST Thread

I don't know how you guys can post in Halo threads outside of our Official thread havens... the level of hatred anything Halo related gets on this forum is beyond comprehension. People are so ignorant too. Jumping to conclusions over a blurry cellphone pic! It's quite annoying how they get away with it too. I bet you 20 dollars I could get banned for less in a thread about a Wii game or a PS3 game. (I'll probably get banned for saying THAT)

Hats off to you who did post in there though. Good show, gents.

New BR looks sweet btw, as does the Lazer shot and the needlerbine thingumyjig. Shame the leak happened but it did get some juices flowing for Reach :D
 
BladedExpert said:
I don't know how you guys can post in Halo threads outside of our Official thread havens... the level of hatred anything Halo related gets on this forum is beyond comprehension. People are so ignorant too. Jumping to conclusions over a blurry cellphone pic! It's quite annoying how they get away with it too. I bet you 20 dollars I could get banned for less in a thread about a Wii game or a PS3 game. (I'll probably get banned for saying THAT)

Hats off to you who did post in there though. Good show, gents.

New BR looks sweet btw, as does the Lazer shot and the needlerbine thingumyjig. Shame the leak happened but it did get some juices flowing for Reach :D

The sad thing is that you are right
 
DD-11 said:
Halo on legendary (especially ODST) is already too easy, why do you want to make it even easier?

I don't. If anything I want it to be harder. I could go on and on about my hate for games becoming easier and easier these days. I'm all for making games harder but not by artificial means. A constrained weapon set is not the right way to do it in my opinion.
 
Thread moves fast. Not having party chats in Reach would be the most rediculous and annoying ass thing ever. Not being able to talk to my friends would really piss me off. You can't force people to communicate.

Dax, why? Reach is about Spartans. I don't know about you, but given that the Spartans are the most advanced and expensive units in the UNSC, I'm gonna go ahead and assume they are not issued wimpy ass pistols. Like wtf is that? A super soldier and hundreds of enemies everywhere, with nothing but a pistol? That's the worst thing I could ever imagine in a Halo game.

And new screenshots are smeh. The weapons take up way too much room in your FOV. The new BR is fucking huge. I personally am looking forward to some radical changes in Reach. Sure, I love Halo MP, but let's be serious. We've played the hell out of Halo 2 and 3, isn't it about time we get something different?
 
DiabolicalBagel said:
I don't. If anything I want it to be harder. I could go on and on about my hate for games becoming easier and easier these days. I'm all for making games harder but not by artificial means. A constrained weapon set is not the right way to do it in my opinion.

Not sure how it's constrained or artificial. It's logical that enemies would develop technologies to prevent them from getting easily killed by any number of weapons.
 
I want my enemies to be difficult because they, themselves, are difficult to kill. Because they are smart, because they are efficient, competent, relentless and at times surprising. They should use strategy which goes beyond "oh shit, Imma bein shot, get to cover". I want an enemy that would do things I wouldn't think to try and prevent.
I do not want an enemy that is hard to kill because they are bullet sponges or because my weapons are useless.

I want an enemy that is difficult to kill, not one that is hard to kill.
 
Also, L-O-fucking-L at the people who think these pics were leaked purposefully by Microsoft to try to steal hype from Modern Warfare 2. Yea because the 10 million copies that game sells on 360 won't do anything for MS at all. Halo: Reach is a year away too. If anything this hurts Halo: Reach because of all the douchers saying, "wow same engine, Bungie r dum" What a fuckin joke. I'm sure if MS wanted things leaked from Halo: Reach it would at least some high res, non blurry shit.
 
Tashi0106 said:
Also, L-O-fucking-L at the people who think these pics were leaked purposefully by Microsoft to try to steal hype from Modern Warfare 2. Yea because the 10 million copies that game sells on 360 won't do anything for MS at all. Halo: Reach is a year away too. If anything this hurts Halo: Reach because of all the douchers saying, "wow same engine, Bungie r dum" What a fuckin joke. I'm sure if MS wanted things leaked from Halo: Reach it would at least some high res, non blurry shit.
See: Heretic "leak".
 
DiabolicalBagel said:
I want my enemies to be difficult because they, themselves, are difficult to kill. Because they are smart, because they are efficient, competent, relentless and at times surprising. They should use strategy which goes beyond "oh shit, Imma bein shot, get to cover". I want an enemy that would do things I wouldn't think to try and prevent.
I do not want an enemy that is hard to kill because they are bullet sponges or because my weapons are useless.

I want an enemy that is difficult to kill, not one that is hard to kill.

You may want to wait a generation or two. Bungie's AI is the best in the business, I'm not sure what more you want.
 
Tashi0106 said:
Also, L-O-fucking-L at the people who think these pics were leaked purposefully by Microsoft to try to steal hype from Modern Warfare 2. Yea because the 10 million copies that game sells on 360 won't do anything for MS at all. Halo: Reach is a year away too. If anything this hurts Halo: Reach because of all the douchers saying, "wow same engine, Bungie r dum" What a fuckin joke. I'm sure if MS wanted things leaked from Halo: Reach it would at least some high res, non blurry shit.

Lol, you don't leak "high-res" screens. Whether or not these are intentionally leaked by MS or just some douche who doesn't read the contracts he signs, a small glimpse of Halo: Reach has finally been given. Thank the Lord and about fucking time. :D

But now, I want to see an HD gameplay montage of their take-home tests.

Please?
 
Dani said:
See: Heretic "leak".
Not sure if you're conveying MS was apart of that, but ok.

Still, these images are blurry, and who knows how old (engine). We at least know some information, though to be honest, none of it may be final once the game releases. The perk shit, i.e. sprinting, cloaking, and halogram seem very meh.
 
DD-11 said:
You may want to wait a generation or two. Bungie's AI is the best in the business, I'm not sure what more you want.

I don't know what games you've been playing but I've come across better AI than Bungie's. However, this wasn't my point at all. I wasn't meaning to complain about Bungie's AI, I was just stating that I wouldn't like to see Reach being artificially harder because of lame weapons.
 
DiabolicalBagel said:
I don't know what games you've been playing but I've come across better AI than Bungie's. However, this wasn't my point at all. I wasn't meaning to complain about Bungie's AI, I was just stating that I wouldn't like to see Reach being artificially harder because of lame weapons.
Call me nostolgic, but I thought the AI from H:CE was much more interesting and beleivable then any other Halo game. Fighting Elites in the that game was epic.
 
Jroderton said:
Is it just me or did odst get really old really quick? imo. I couldnt stand playing firefight after about 4 weeks.
I've had to take the game in smaller doses, for sure. I'm sure if I went all out for the first week I would have traded it in already. But I've been taking my time and having a lot of fun.
 
Stormtrooper30 said:
Thread moves fast. Not having party chats in Reach would be the most rediculous and annoying ass thing ever. Not being able to talk to my friends would really piss me off. You can't force people to communicate.

Dax, why? Reach is about Spartans. I don't know about you, but given that the Spartans are the most advanced and expensive units in the UNSC, I'm gonna go ahead and assume they are not issued wimpy ass pistols. Like wtf is that? A super soldier and hundreds of enemies everywhere, with nothing but a pistol? That's the worst thing I could ever imagine in a Halo game.
Yeah. We'll certainly encounter a scenario like this that doesn't involve vehicles! And nothing but a pistol? Who said that?
 
user_nat said:
Probably cause about 7 people own the game.

On the subject of Halo PC ports, I was in EB games (Australia's gamestop) the other day and they had about 5 brand new copies of Halo CE on PC, which weren't there a week earlier.
Does this game still sell?

All I know is H2Vista is fucking awesome! I just played online joined a custom game off a list that looked good, played BR/Snipes Lockout up to 200 with all these people and then we played some Beaver Creek MLG, followed by Warlock MLG, Then Snipes on Turf. Holy SHIT what a fucking game. MP is SO FAST. If they would have just fixed beatdowns that don't connect the game would be near perfect.

Now I'm going through Legendary campaign.

Game looks so much better than Xbox's H2 too. Which is nice.
 
xxjuicesxx said:
All I know is H2Vista is fucking awesome! I just played online joined a custom game off a list that looked good, played BR/Snipes Lockout up to 200 with all these people and then we played some Beaver Creek MLG, followed by Warlock MLG, Then Snipes on Turf. Holy SHIT what a fucking game. MP is SO FAST. If they would have just fixed beatdowns that don't connect the game would be near perfect.

Now I'm going through Legendary campaign.

Game looks so much better than Xbox's H2 too. Which is nice.

Are you playing with a 360 controller or Mouse and keyboard?
 
This kind of applies to ODST/Halo 3 because the painting is from the Halo 3 concept art.

The "BR" that people are calling it in the Reach pics looks a lot like another rifle that shows up quite a few times in various places in the Art of Halo 3, as well as the Encyclopedia.

Here is a pic of it:

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A Penguin said:
Won't you be outmatched by people playing with mouse and keyboard, though?
:lol Remember that kid who came in here a few months ago preaching that all H3 pros used modded keyboards and mouses to play? :lol that was rich.
 
In my limited experience with Halo 2 PC, Controller >> KB+M.

Probably cause I am use to the controller.
 
A Penguin said:
Won't you be outmatched by people playing with mouse and keyboard, though?

Maybe five years ago, now the right analog stick is the mouselook and the left one moves more precise than WASD directions can. Follow that up with a claw-hold for pressing buttons to boot and I won every game besides the first (I joined late) I'd say they are equal.

Shadowrun cross platform statistics showed 360 users won more than PC users.

I wish more games were cross platform, just so PC users would STFU. Seriously.
 
xxjuicesxx said:
Maybe five years ago, now the right analog stick is the mouselook and the left one moves more precise than WASD directions can. Follow that up with a claw-hold for pressing buttons to boot and I won every game besides the first (I joined late) I'd say they are equal.

Shadowrun cross platform statistics showed 360 users won more than PC users.

I wish more games were cross platform, just so PC users would STFU. Seriously.
Yeah, I have a PC gamer "friend" who constantly rags on what he calls "auto-aim" and lack of skill in console games. Of course, he's never touched a console FPS. Bugs me to no end.
 
A Penguin said:
Yeah, I have a PC gamer "friend" who constantly rags on what he calls "auto-aim" and lack of skill in console games. Of course, he's never touched a console FPS. Bugs me to no end.

Auto-aim as in it assists and compensates while you are already aiming at someone and following their movements? Sure... it does a little bit of aiming for you but I wouldn't call it auto-aim, you still do most of the work. :)
I'd rather have fully manual aiming, though.
Can't count the amount of times that, say, a mongoose drives past just as I pull the trigger in scope.

However good analog sticks are in this day and age, I'll never consider them equal with mice.
(not starting anything here btw, I just perform far better with a mouse)

Like... why can't I have acceleration settings on 360? I would love that.
I could have the turning speed I want while still being able to make acute adjustments to my aim easily.

I guess it doesn't help that the right analog sticks on all my controllers have worked up a fair bit of resistance right in the centre and also have a dead zone. Every single time: no aiming, no aiming, no aiming, way too much.


I want a new controller. :(
 
DiabolicalBagel said:
Like... why can't I have acceleration settings on 360? I would love that.

I'm pretty sure that some games do have that.

Needs to be more standard though.
 
user_nat said:
I'm pretty sure that some games do have that.

Needs to be more standard though.


Really? I've not come across it yet. Unless I have but have forgotten. :S

Definitely needs to be more standard. Acceleration is probably more important to me than the base sensitivity.
 
Stupid of me, I don't mean they are equal at all, at highly competitive levels I'm sure the Keyboard Mouse has an advantage. Its just not distinguishable as it was before in gaming especially at the more casual level.

Yea but console and or controller gaming will get there or somewhere closer, and yea we do need to see more acceleration/threshold and some other features more commonly found in PC games.

Also what is with sensitivity as one setting? please seperate the X and Y axis. For Christs sake no game makes you look up and down as much as they do left and right.
 
xxjuicesxx said:
Stupid of me, I don't mean they are equal at all, at highly competitive levels I'm sure the Keyboard Mouse has an advantage. Its just not distinguishable as it was before in gaming especially at the more casual level.

Yea but console and or controller gaming will get there or somewhere closer, and yea we do need to see more acceleration/threshold and some other features more commonly found in PC games.

Also what is with sensitivity as one setting? please seperate the X and Y axis. For Christs sake no game makes you look up and down as much as they do left and right.

Holy shit! Yes! I can't think of any reason to have it as one setting. Drives me crazy.

Also, yeah, I agree with everything else you said. But again, single sensitivity setting, wtf?
 
The thing I find most strange about this leak is a perk called "Halogram", I think bungie would come up with a name better than that.
 
H2 on Legendary. OMG. Frustrating yet rewarding as fuck making your way through elites who survive 5-7 slashes of an energy sword. I'm sorry but the AI in this game is way better, they shoot and shoot and are accurate as fuck but still do Halo like things that you people think means AI. They seem to know when to hide and chase really well. I see them recharging their shields so I'm forced to rush if I want to get a kill sometimes. I guess thats a problem in H3 since Brutes don't have recharging shields.
 
DiabolicalBagel said:
I guess it doesn't help that the right analog sticks on all my controllers have worked up a fair bit of resistance right in the centre and also have a dead zone. Every single time: no aiming, no aiming, no aiming, way too much.


I want a new controller. :(
Try some Lube.
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My controllers work great now.
 
user_nat said:
The thing I find most strange about this leak is a perk called "Halogram", I think bungie would come up with a name better than that.


IMO sounds like someone didn't know how to spell hologram. :|
 
user_nat said:
The thing I find most strange about this leak is a perk called "Halogram", I think bungie would come up with a name better than that.
That would not be final name, it would make no sense, UNSC don't know what Halo is (doubt it's Covenant).
Other reason being is that it's a terrible name.
 
Sai-kun said:
IMO sounds like someone didn't know how to spell hologram. :|
This.

Domino Theory said:
Shh, it's a sin to want to see anything of Halo: Reach.

Hmmm, the day after I wish to see something from Halo: Reach, screenshots leak. I can live with that sin.
IIDDDDDIOOOTTTT!!!
 
That other thread is a disastor. Geeze. The hate over blurry cell phone pics is unreal. I for one thought the pictures were fantastic. The gun models looked a billion times better then that of Halo 3 and ODST and we are talking about models from a game that is no where close to being finished. Should be an interesting update today. Hopefully Bungie comments on it because as of now Tom Morello has the entire Halo community by their balls.
 
Miguelangelo said:
im loving the excitment of it all LOL.

Hai guyz

Probably have a free afternoon.
If anyone needs a player to get the 200k achievements in firefight, let me know.

Yes, this post is non- Halo Reach related
 
Gui_PT said:
Hai guyz

Probably have a free afternoon.
If anyone needs a player to get the 200k achievements in firefight, let me know.

Yes, this post is non- Halo Reach related

Afternoon being the next 4 hours? :( Free after that, lectures/labs until then.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
Afternoon being the next 4 hours? :( Free after that, lectures/labs until then.
Afternoon being the next 6 hours.

Just got home from college after a presentation where the teacher told me I should've done better just because I didn't format the Word document I delivered. So imma staying home

/emo rant
 
xxjuicesxx said:
H2 on Legendary. OMG. Frustrating yet rewarding as fuck making your way through elites who survive 5-7 slashes of an energy sword. I'm sorry but the AI in this game is way better, they shoot and shoot and are accurate as fuck but still do Halo like things that you people think means AI. They seem to know when to hide and chase really well. I see them recharging their shields so I'm forced to rush if I want to get a kill sometimes. I guess thats a problem in H3 since Brutes don't have recharging shields.

Halo 2 has always been unquestionably the hardest of the games. If for no other reason than two instances being harder than anything I've encountered in the other games. Probably helps how pathetically easy the other games are though. I thought ODST would be harder since you weren't a spartan.....
 
SquallASF said:
Halo 2 has always been unquestionably the hardest of the games. If for no other reason than two instances being harder than anything I've encountered in the other games. Probably helps how pathetically easy the other games are though. I thought ODST would be harder since you weren't a spartan.....

You know, I though the same thing. As well as everyone else, probably.

Halo 3 and ODST are much easier than Halo 2.

But you can't forget that since H3, you have the skulls which make the games ridiculously difficult.
 
Gui_PT said:
You know, I though the same thing. As well as everyone else, probably.

Halo 3 and ODST are much easier than Halo 2.

But you can't forget that since H3, you have the skulls which make the games ridiculously difficult.

Yeah, I was just talking natural difficulty. You can always make a game harder for yourself by doing things like only using the weakest weapon all game etc. I was thinking CE was harder but I started to replay it this summer on Legendary and was amazed how easy it was. It just comes down to computer opponents being infinitely inferior to good human competetion. You play enough MP at high levels against good players and Campaign becomes a joke.
 
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