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He probably needed to save time and/or wanted to make sure he was accurate to the character design so we would recognize him in silhouette. At least he didn't just throw a filter over the original art.

Considering that the entire thrust of the comic is "this protagonist looks rad," I'm sure THQ and the devs won't mind.
 
Oh wow, even Gabe is Greg Land'n now huh. Dear oh dear. Especially love the nonchalant changing of GBR to USA. IF ITS NOT AMERICA, THEN WHO CAN RELATE?!
 
Not even close. They haven't even reached the "Remove Ads from the Front Page" goal yet.

I love these guys but that Kickstarter put me off a bit. They got a ton of money but not enough to follow through on all their talk. So really the site isn't going to change much. They were even mentioning how some people like the ads as if that's the main reason not to remove them. All they need to do is put out a Lookouts comic book and all is well. They put in some overtime, make a bit more content, keep the Kickstarter money, and the ads keep rolling along.

The whole operation came off a bit shady.
 
I love these guys but that Kickstarter put me off a bit. They got a ton of money but not enough to follow through on all their talk. So really the site isn't going to change much. They were even mentioning how some people like the ads as if that's the main reason not to remove them. All they need to do is put out a Lookouts comic book and all is well. They put in some overtime, make a bit more content, keep the Kickstarter money, and the ads keep rolling along.

The whole operation came off a bit shady.

I don't understand why they went through Kickstarter. They should have gone through their own site and have Premium Memberships ala Giant Bomb.
 
With 50 minutes to go on the Kickstarter it looks like they'll miss removing the rest of the ads from the front page by around 10k.

I must say I would've liked to have seen the new Lookouts comics that was at 550k.
 
Its a little bit more than reference on a screen, when you know for a fact that photo was at layer 1 of a photoshop file and then layer 2 was sketched over the top.
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But yeah, its not the worlds most heinous use of phototracing like some of the shit in comicbooks these days. Its fun seeing that artists will, like some kind of criminal trying to hide the murder weapon, distort the photo's proportions just enough to be different with the quick transform tool before beginning to trace, and since Gabe's current art-style is "intentionally stylistically sloppy", you get a fairly different riff from the original image.

That doesn't make it any less fun to point it out hoping that enough artists will wake up in a cold sweat screaming "OH GOD, THEY KNOW" and swear off the practice forever, returning to good ol sphere sketchforms and poses of their own ingenuity.
 
Its a little bit more than reference on a screen, when you know for a fact that photo was at layer 1 of a photoshop file and then layer 2 was sketched over the top.
HSuRW.gif

But yeah, its not the worlds most heinous use of phototracing like some of the shit in comicbooks these days.

CAD's one face.
 
Its a little bit more than reference on a screen, when you know for a fact that photo was at layer 1 of a photoshop file and then layer 2 was sketched over the top.
http://i.imgur.com/HSuRW.gif
But yeah, its not the worlds most heinous use of phototracing like some of the shit in comicbooks these days. Its fun seeing that artists will, like some kind of criminal trying to hide the murder weapon, distort the photo's proportions just enough to be different with the quick transform tool before beginning to trace, and since Gabe's current art-style is "intentionally stylistically sloppy", you get a fairly different riff from the original image.

That doesn't make it any less fun to point it out hoping that enough artists will wake up in a cold sweat screaming "OH GOD, THEY KNOW" and swear off the practice forever, returning to good ol sphere sketchforms and poses of their own ingenuity.
My artistic respect for Gabe has pretty much bottomed out. There was a time where the art in PA was great but now it feels like he cranks out six in an afternoon every two weeks and then goes golfing.

I mean, at the very least, don't just trace the -very first- GIS result. Who is he, Tim Buckley?
 
Its a little bit more than reference on a screen, when you know for a fact that photo was at layer 1 of a photoshop file and then layer 2 was sketched over the top.
HSuRW.gif

But yeah, its not the worlds most heinous use of phototracing like some of the shit in comicbooks these days. Its fun seeing that artists will, like some kind of criminal trying to hide the murder weapon, distort the photo's proportions just enough to be different with the quick transform tool before beginning to trace, and since Gabe's current art-style is "intentionally stylistically sloppy", you get a fairly different riff from the original image.

That doesn't make it any less fun to point it out hoping that enough artists will wake up in a cold sweat screaming "OH GOD, THEY KNOW" and swear off the practice forever, returning to good ol sphere sketchforms and poses of their own ingenuity.

Huh, never mind, that looks kinda traced. Eyeballing it made them appear much more disparate.
 
My artistic respect for Gabe has pretty much bottomed out. There was a time where the art in PA was great but now it feels like he cranks out six in an afternoon every two weeks and then goes golfing.

I mean, at the very least, don't just trace the -very first- GIS result. Who is he, Tim Buckley?

If you'd just donate more to their Kickstarter he'd have more time!

BTW, I always thought this was interesting.

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It's kind of funny but do you actually have an issue with it?

It's starting to become plagiarism. I mean, tracing photographs is a grey area, but plain old tracing over DS2 artwork is p. black and white.

But of course gaf has a defense force for plagiarism.
 
Holy shit. Add lazy to greedy, pretentious and narcissistic.

At least thier vocabulary is growing.

He has to put out a comic quickly, I'd do the same thing. And the AC3 piece is only fan art, it's not 'official'.

Check out the Zelda Skyward Sword stuff he did. Really well done and he took his time.

You clearly don't like them so..... hum....why are you here exactly?
 
Do you mean in composition or what? What, they can't do comics about fatherhood? Christ, unlike Buckley I think Gabe's style is varied enough to pull it off.

His kid's gotten pretty big.

I mean, the thing about Buckley's comic was that it was the culmination of a couple of month's worth of self-indulgent bullshit. This is a one-off strip about Gabe and his child's online safety and what lies behind his thinking there.
 
Do you mean in composition or what? What, they can't do comics about fatherhood? Christ, unlike Buckley I think Gabe's style is varied enough to pull it off.

His kid's gotten pretty big.

I love PA, but I just don't understand why videogame web comics need to venture into sappy, ham-handed territory. The last line made me cringe.
 
Sooo their latest strip borders dangerously close to an infamous Ctrl+Alt+Del comic...

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Um, what? Those two strips have zero in common. Plus, one is actually touching while the other one is trying to be touching so hard that its laughable. Im sure you can tell which is which.

You make 3 strips a week for free for 10 years, you get to do whatever the fuck you want every now and then.
 
Um, what? Those two strips have zero in common. Plus, one is actually touching while the other one is trying to be touching so hard that its laughable. Im sure you can tell which is which.

He's talking about the body poses in the last panel, which probably reminded him of loss.jpg.

The Content sure isn't the same, though.
 
It's so crazy that his son is twelve or so now. I remember being in high school when they were making Dreamcast strips and Gabe was talking about his newborn.

Time flies at a crazy pace.
 
Sooo their latest strip borders dangerously close to an infamous Ctrl+Alt+Del comic...

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I love this comic. The internet is such a scary place as a parent. It's kind of like dropping your kid off at the mall for the first time. You know the basics of where they're going, but a shit ton of stuff can happen to them there.
 
He's talking about the body poses in the last panel, which probably reminded him of loss.jpg.

The Content sure isn't the same, though.

not really?

I love PA, but I just don't understand why videogame web comics need to venture into sappy, ham-handed territory. The last line made me cringe.

The panel composition is nothing especial, its a pretty classic and widely used shot.
 
Now I remember why that line resonated so negatively in my head...it's from this freaking Purina dogchow commercial. :38 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7_exKwaPKI

I think you can complain about Penny Arcade without getting into insane complaints that he's plagiarising from dog food commercials. I mean seriously? The idea of parents not wanting their kids to grow up is kind of a universal concept. That line isn't something unique, it speaks to the common experience/feeling that the strip is about.

At the very least find a commercial that uses the line verbatim. The commercial has the father saying "Don't grow up without me" since he's going on a business trip. That's a completely different idea than the first. One is about being afraid/worried about your children growing up, the other is about not being there to witness it.
 
Well you'll just have to live with their other thousand comic strips that don't deal with fatherhood

My issue with PA in its current state is when the comics touching on subject matter relevant to Jerry and Mike's life contain no humor. There is no punch line in this comic. They can write any strip they want, with any tone about any content, but PA was originally a humor strip. With the influence of Scott Kurtz and the maturity of their lives as husbands and fathers, Jerry and Mike are taking the PA strip in a divergent direction. I've accepted that Penny Arcade is no longer a comic strip but a company, and the strip is now the smallest part. I love that they find more to poke fun at than video games, but most of the recent strips have in my opinion lacked either a punchline or any attempt at humor. Too often, they're using the strip as a platform which was originally the new post's role.
 
My issue with PA in its current state is when the comics touching on subject matter relevant to Jerry and Mike's life contain no humor. There is no punch line in this comic. They can write any strip they want, with any tone about any content, but PA was originally a humor strip. With the influence of Scott Kurtz and the maturity of their lives as husbands and fathers, Jerry and Mike are taking the PA strip in a divergent direction. I've accepted that Penny Arcade is no longer a comic strip but a company, and the strip is now the smallest part. I love that they find more to poke fun at than video games, but most of the recent strips have in my opinion lacked either a punchline or any attempt at humor. Too often, they're using the strip as a platform which was originally the new post's role.

Bullshit.

The previous 15 comics before that one were comedy comics. They weren't all good, mind you, and I'll accept the idea that PA's best days are behind them, but don't act like it's all serious time now.
 
So I had heard they were kinda partial to xbox, but god-dam.

Controllers that frequently lose their connections or lack removable batteries are not a “thing.” Frequent updates without even a pretense of feature additions aren’t a “thing.” I could pay them to update it for me, but the other option is that I could not do that, and that’s the one I’m gonna go with. Hamstrung online services in game, limited chat and invite options, and nonexistent party functions aren’t 2013, let alone the previous years. Outside of the prodigious and brilliant work of its wholly owned subsidiaries, the console never got any better. It never had anything approaching “Xbox Live, but free.” The Playstation Move didn’t. Maybe now that we’re getting a successor, people can say true things about the existing system without hurting them fee-fees.
I mean, some of that shit is, like, straight out of joe xbox's console warrior secret list of talking points circa 2007. Controllers losing connections? Are they still rocking an original 6-axis?
 
So I had heard they were kinda partial to xbox, but god-dam.


I mean, some of that shit is, like, straight out of joe xbox's console warrior secret list of talking points circa 2007. Controllers losing connections? Are they still rocking an original 6-axis?
I don't know about the controllers, I've never had an issue with mine, but I'd agree with everything else. I mean in the PS4 reveal conference Sony almost admitted to their patching system being awful. Cross game chat is something that's been on the 360 since it launched in 2005 and the PS3 still can't do it (I understand there's a technical reason for it but that's not much of an excuse.)
 
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