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The people who make brutal video game porn
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CadetMahoney
Member
yea. I find it questionable shining a spotlight on it and saying "hey everyone look at this!" pics and links, trailers and everything. dafuq.
For fuck's sake, don't be a dumbass and actually read it before you judge it. It's not bad, and I'm normally not a Patricia Hernandez fan.
What's wrong with that?
yea, true.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
So, a new Elizabeth one is coming out, huh? Interesting.
That's where they should draw a line. Ken Levine spoke out about that. I don't see their fun in going against his best wishes.
sensui-tomo
Member
The scout is a signature of one of the animators, its a "little running gag" joke
example, someone will have sex and he'll show up mouse size, either person having intercourse might kick him off the screen... basically a gag character (for the most part)
Tecmo and team ninja dont want people modding DOA for the pc, people got in a fit over that , also Telling the internet to "not draw my character in a sexual manner" is the worst thing you can do.. hell Butch hartman(danny phantom, Fairly odd parents, that dog show) said the same thing.... and rule 34 took care of that.. Not saying its right, but its nature that if you tell someone NO, someone will go against it.
Stilton Disco
Member
Fair enough, but if that someone has a sex life with a person or persons who get off on being in pain, loosing power, being damaged, and literally being raped (which is disturbing no more unusual), but they keep it private and entirely consensual (and yes, you do get 'consensual rape'. BDSM is weird), and otherwise are a perfectly normal human being, then what's the harm? And by extension, if someone is just enjoying non harmful, faked porn on the subject, while wanking alone, who exactly does that hurt?
Certainly I can't see it being any worse than the people who get off on bodily waste, being smothered by fat people, wearing nappies like a baby, or dressing up in fur suits.
People do weird, scary things to get their rocks off. Judge them by their personalities, and how they act outside of the bedroom/dogging site/sex dungeon.
Mushroomer25
Member
I don't think they're trying to stop people from looking into the stuff themselves - the article takes a stance of 'this could be problematic, but porn is porn' - so it's not really a Steisand effect. They're not saying this stuff is morally wrong, rather they're just highlighting its' popularity.
John Kowalski
Banned
You don't know anyone in irl with those fantasies? I knew a very tame and prude girl who enjoyed that sort of thing. It spoke very little of her actual character, and only about the kind of erotic fiction she enjoyed. Rape fantasies are also very often vastly unrepresentative of rape as it happens in real life, there is play of dominance but almost never dangerously so. Was she weird? Kind of. I don't really know how popular these fantasies are. I know mine certainly aren't.
You still haven't said why they scare you. Weird? Shit, we're all guilty of some weird kink.
Also, calling it wrong wouldn't be the Streisand effect.
The Streisand effect is hiding information in a way that brings attention to it.
Wiktor
Member
To be honest. I doubt most of them watch realistic rape porn. It's like that joke from Life of Brian. "Were you raped" "Well, at first, yes". Halfway through the whole thing the women starts to enjoy it. Plus it's shot in unrealistic way.
Compare it to truly disturbing rape scenes form normal movies. I doubt anyone normal jacked off to Irreversible, because that looked like real rape
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
It's not like this is Willy Wonka's factory and they'll end up gaining more at the end by doing so. It's for their own amusement, but it's also that whole idea of "going against the creator". These characters are well known, but they might not be as well known as say Mario. You see this pattern of quality meeting someone else's imagination. You also aren't necessarily thrilled to see something you've enjoyed differently. I don't necessarily enjoy these videos. They take Laura's sex appeal and they turn it into this helpless performance. She lacks everything that made her great. There's always a time and a place for it.
Mushroomer25
Member
Good point. A Streisand effect in this scenario would be Kotaku putting together a piece that asks people to petition for the porn's removal from the internet, talking about legal avenues to get it down via copyright, etc - ultimately driving more attention to the porn.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I've seen the Lara one. That's all.
Novel Mike
Member
Honestly as a dom who also enjoys these kind of fantasies I agree with you, even though I like the idea of this kind of fantasy (total sexual control over another person) I could never think about actually doing that to another person and even getting turned on by seeing that kind of porn and enjoying it used to made me feel like I was a terrible person, but as you said its a fantasy and everyone has their kinks (which is actually said by the author of this article) and that doesn't mean that just because I enjoy it as a fantasy would I ever want to actually hurt a girl like that.
As you said its an extreme form of BDSM but unfortunately BDSM itself is far from recognized as a natural thing to the modern adult, many people still think its super perverted and all about whips, chains, pain, ect. when what its most about more then anything else is trust. Personally I find BDSM one of the best bonding (no pun intended) things you can do with another person you care about, you have to trust in that person completely not only to respect your limits but trust them to control themselves when you say a safeword or to not do something that they might enjoy but is a hard no for you. It's all about trusting your partner with the most intimate thing a you can do together, I find it rather romantic personally.
I don't really see a problem with it to be honest. Whilst rape is horrific it has less of an impact when it's false, especially animated.
Films portray this (and many other acts that would be absolutely horrendous in real life) all the time, and those scenes are filmed with real people. The good thing about this being so niche is that it takes a bit of effort to find it - although the article does a good job at trying to remedy that - and even then nobody is forcing anybody to watch it. I guess with porn there's a market for almost anything and this proves that.
Films portray this (and many other acts that would be absolutely horrendous in real life) all the time, and those scenes are filmed with real people. The good thing about this being so niche is that it takes a bit of effort to find it - although the article does a good job at trying to remedy that - and even then nobody is forcing anybody to watch it. I guess with porn there's a market for almost anything and this proves that.
machemachete
Banned
Yesterday on Xvideos I found one of those featuring characters from Mass Effect (the whole trilogy), Batman Arkham, Bioshock Infinite (there was an interesting one using
), Burial at sea, Borderlands 2(This one in cell shading) and Frozen.
It was pretty interesting.
the multiples Elizabeths of the ending
It was pretty interesting.
Ganzlinger
Member
Didn't know about these almost professional "movies", although it's common knowledge that comics, doujinshi and hentai stuff with rape content are all over the web.
Since it's purely fantasy I guess it shouldn't be banned but treated as hardcore porn material for a mature audience.
Since it's purely fantasy I guess it shouldn't be banned but treated as hardcore porn material for a mature audience.
I don't get being turned on by rape. I know its one of those things where sex and power are dangerously intertwined (and its both, not just one or the other) and maybe there is some sort of alpha male caveman instinct there, but I just...
Having two daughters, I see things differently now, and if there ever was a time I could be amused by it, it's long gone.
Having two daughters, I see things differently now, and if there ever was a time I could be amused by it, it's long gone.
sensui-tomo
Member
there is a whole doujin market in japan that would be destroyed if that were possible. It isnt breaking any kind of laws (with specific exceptions since child depictations (like ellie from the last of us )are the questionable parts(those break laws in specific areas)
I thought it would be evident from my description why I found it scary. To put it simply: people who enjoy seeing other people hurt or harmed or being powerless, all in a non-consensual framework, frighten me. The ones doling out the rape and getting off on the pain of others scare me.
sensui-tomo
Member
People may get off on something that isnt real and see the real act and get disgusted.
Oh wait this is neogaf where i can say people have issues for liking something I dont like even though they can be great people and speak out against rape. but nope THEY GOT ISSUES .
KirbYuuYuu
Member
So when do we
discover hentai
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Stilton Disco
Member
Trust me, it's not just a male fantasy, plenty of women get off on the fantasy of raping people too.
And 'fantasy' is the important part here. It's not really any different to the millions of brutal murders we fantasise about carrying out in most games.
There's as big of a difference between someone with privately held sadistic fetishes and an actual rapist, as there is between someone who plays GTA and an actual murderer.
Thanks Toxi and sensui. Kind of strange they don't take legal action further than the initial threat. Surely they can trademark a characters likeness and prevent it but I suppose ultimately it isn't worth the legal costs. In a sick way it's kind of free advertising.
John Kowalski
Banned
Fair enough.
Seemed pretty reasonable. And noted that the studio is interested in doing more consensual scenes and including male faces to appease female fan base.
sensui-tomo
Member
think of it this way, I can make a dargonball (get it not dragonball) doujin (comic. not h) with the main character GIKU and his son GIHAN, and have very very similar looking designs (nothing can be copied) and run my own story their, and people in japan buy it.(this is a very loose way of saying it, but doujins are basically Fan fictions to the next level, while being sold to the public
Some Nobody
Junior Member
This is the thing that's getting me here. As gamers most of us have virtual kill counts numbering in the high thousands--some of us possibly millions--and everyone's like "oh that's just fantasy", but you can't write off this? They're not even using real actors (well, aside from for voices)--this is the epitome of harming no one.
And I say that as someone who tried to watch that TR thing and both found it kinda silly and not really my bag. Deleted it about a minute after I got it.
Anyway, this is a pretty informative article and manages not to be judgmental about what could be a pretty touchy subject. Not bad.
So, a new Elizabeth one is coming out, huh? Interesting.
Zone-tan makes great porno parodys. Always of highest quality.
Well... non-consensual sex is rape, so yeah people who are into that are probably pretty bad. Unless of course you mean people who are into that sort of roleplay in which case fuck you for demonizing the safe sexual activity of consenting adults.
Your complaints are quite broad and the infliction of pain and unequal power dynamics are pretty common so I find it disappointing that your first and only response is to recoil away in ignorance.
Messofanego
Banned
And this is all still done under a fantasy framework. For people who get off on this, it's easy for them to make the distinction. You are scared, which is fine, but I'd be wary of judging others. Watch any Kink video and they'll go on about this where the model should feel safe, be not pressured to continue anything, that this is what she wants, and the fantasy can be stopped at any time. That's live-action porn. This is animated porn so don't even need that disclaimer to separate fantasy from reality.
Of course with anything, there might be some who want to transfer this to IRL. But they'll face the full consequences of the law and will be condemned by these people.
You should email it to your boss instead.
Necromanti
Member
Rape fantasies are nothing new, but I've never heard the term "non-con" before. It's fine if it remains a fantasy and nothing more. On the subject of cultural attitudes, though, I feel like an abundance of that type of content is a symptom (or reflection) of elements in a culture rather than stuff like this necessarily contributing to it becoming a reality.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I....really? Been around at least 15 years now. And, I'm not sure what you're saying here but I don't think it'd be too far out of line to suggest that society as a whole is getting kinkier.