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The Playstation 2 thread of "Well it had a good run"

I never got a PS2, I was burned by the first Playstation (I own 4, because each one died), and the PS2 appeared to have the same problem. Same reason keeping me from the 360.

But problems aside, the PS2 was a brilliant product from marketing to design.
 
DidntKnowJack said:
But ignoring the history lesson (we all knew about anyway) I thought the time was right to have a discussion of the PS2 as a console, it's library of games, and just an overall look back at the memories we associate with the system. After all, the sales of the PS2 are starting to finally wane, selling roughly 41 K units in North America in January 2010.
Dogenzaka said:
It's library is so huge I'm still picking up games I missed :(
Man said:
Most refined technical achievement in it's ten years: God of War 2.
-COOLIO- said:
playstations have a 10 year life cycle. it's run isnt over until oct 26th of this year.
OldJadedGamer said:
But sales took off in Japan selling more in it's first 48 hours on retail shelves than the PS3 did in 9 months over there. The Japanese really loved this unit then more than half a year later, the rest of the US took hold.
SecretBonusPoint said:
Best console of all time. It's library is untouchable, and unless there is a one console future its unlikely we'll ever see such an incredible generation like it ever again.
Its.

Shame it didn't have any good grammar games.
 
I so wish that my phat PS2 didn't get a Disc Read Error, I loved that thing. The slim is good and all, but the original felt so perfect for me. It was the only console I ever had to just sit and marvel at. Granted, I was 13 at the time, but no console since has given me that same feeling.

Its probably the last time I'll get that feeling now that I'm older, reading things on the internet and play other peoples systems, you know what you were getting into. Back then, the PS2 was the perfect jump in tech, I was at the pefect age too. At 13/14, playing MGS2 and FFX, I felt like I was "growing" as a gamer as well (yeah, I know).

Anyways, best console ever and whatnot.
 
Purchased mine with FFX. Didn't realize I needed a memory card at the time so I played through the awesome opening twice that night. PS2 was my least played console because of the Xbox and Halo but it has some of my best gaming memories with it.

KimiSan said:
Its.

Shame it didn't have any good grammar games.

:lol

For all the people he quoted, it's = it is.
 
I got my PS2 in 2000-2001 and it still works... the DVD-ROM is definitely weak, but it still works. I've had to readjust the cog a few times, yet I'm pretty amazed that it will still play games considering most PS2 DVD-ROM drives from that time would not be functional right now.
 
There's a reason I bought a 60GB PS3 ASAP. And it wasn't because of Resistance or Untold Legends. :lol

The PS2 will never die. Sony only stopped producing the original PSone in 2006, and god knows when the PS2 will follow suite.
 
I'm afraid no console will ever match Ps2's awesomeness.
The only thing Ps2 didn't shine in were fps games. But I don't know if that's a bad thing...
 
GatorBait said:
I still haven't played Metal Gear Solid 3 yet. I'm going to start on it today.

I hope that's the subsistence version. if not- back to the store with you! :lol :lol

edit:

now that that's been said, the sheer bulk of A to AAA titles on the PS2 is just staggering.
one can literally buy a game a DAY for a full year and not play everything worth playing.

I've literally become addicted to picking up $10 and under PS2 games in the last couple of weeks (they're all over) and even at those prices there are simply too many titles to choose from.

The SNES is nowhere near a competitor. the amount and quality of titles worth playing is a small fraction of what was released on PS2.
 
One of my favorite memories is being in college when Vice City came out, getting it day 1, and my roommate and all of our friends huddling around our shifty tv for hours everyday playing that game. Listening that that amazing soundtrack that took us back to when we were kids, and just laughing like hell at all the stupid shit you could do. One of the best times of my life.
 
I still recommend the PS2 as the best system to get, over any of the current gen ones, to anyone who's new to gaming and doesn't have any consoles. There just aren't any current gen games that can match the best games in its library.
 
chaostrophy said:
I still recommend the PS2 as the best system to get, over any of the current gen ones, to anyone who's new to gaming and doesn't have any consoles. There just aren't any current gen games that can match the best games in its library.

This. while the ps2 certainly isn't "cutting edge" in terms of graphics anymore, you could definitely peg that gen as the point where graphics became "good enough" for the average joe.

That being said there's a massive amount of quality titles this generation as well (don't underrate it!) but those games have found themselves spread across multiple platforms, as opposed to all concentrated in one spot.

The PS2 was awesome, and I really doubt its past its day yet, im sure there are still hundreds of people playing the things

of course, but it's day is basically done. The age of new exclusive games for the hardware are pretty much finished- all that's left are ports and shovelware. There are many gamers like myself getting a lot of use out of the library, but lets be honest. the best games for it are firmly buried in it's back catalogue. you're not going to find developers pushing the hardware like they did for ZOE2, MGS3, FFXII, or GT4
 
DidntKnowJack said:
Downhill Domination. Yet another racer, so I'll keep it brief. You rode down mountains on bicycles, against AI BMX'ers. Fast, furious, loads of fun. I want a sequel.

For a while now I've said making Downhill Domination 2 using the Motorstorm engine would be fucking incredible. I still carry the torch for such things.

Which reminds me, the PS2 was obviously a third-party beast with so many exclusive games but damn did Sony experiment with some really interesting shit during the same time. Those efforts are what led to the awesome Sony we have today making those great PS3 games.
 
Dax01 said:
The whole reason I bought a PS2 was to play Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy.

I still don't regret that decision to this day.

That and FFX were the games I picked up with the PS2. It was a good day. :D

I still have my PS2, but I haven't played it in nearly 2 years. It was a fantastic console, but I see no reason to hold on to it.
 
Being a closet-gamer/collector, I thought it would be interesting to hear/see how other people store their game-libraries. My private collection is outgrowing my ways of concealment, hence I have been considering trashing all cases and going purely sleeve.

Now, my #1 storing-goal is finding DVD-sized sleeves, which are reasonably priced. (No, 1$ pr. sleeve is not a fair price.) I'm thinking the kind that has room for both the DVD-inlay, as well as the possibility of forcing a manual inside. (not an ultimate condition.)

Any tips to where I could buy a huge amount of said DVD-sleeves, for a minimal price (incl. shipping) I live in Europe, so I would love to hear from Euro-collectors. (DVD or games)

All this PS2-talk, made me realize I wasted an entire furniture on games for the system.
 
dak1dsk1 said:
Being a closet-gamer/collector, I thought it would be interesting to hear/see how other people store their game-libraries. My private collection is outgrowing my ways of concealment, hence I have been considering trashing all cases and going purely sleeve.

Now, my #1 storing-goal is finding DVD-sized sleeves, which are reasonably priced. (No, 1$ pr. sleeve is not a fair price.) I'm thinking the kind that has room for both the DVD-inlay, as well as the possibility of forcing a manual inside. (not an ultimate condition.)

Any tips to where I could buy a huge amount of said DVD-sleeves, for a minimal price (incl. shipping) I live in Europe, so I would love to hear from Euro-collectors. (DVD or games)

:lol :lol :lol :lol

the hell is this?? closet collector? trashing the case and mangling the manuals for paper sleeves?

is this a joke? just get a bookshelf, put them in there among your DVDs. Are you afraid of never getting laid because girls might find out you play games? news flash: those days are over. stop being a wuss and hiding your hobbies.
 
chaostrophy said:
I still recommend the PS2 as the best system to get, over any of the current gen ones, to anyone who's new to gaming and doesn't have any consoles. There just aren't any current gen games that can match the best games in its library.

Absolutely. I love my PS3 for its media center abilities, but from a purely video games point of view, it's mostly been a massive disappointment so far (and I see even less of interest to me on the other two current-gen consoles), but if anyone new to video gaming asked me what console to get, I'd definitely recommend them to get a cheap PS2 slim and a bunch of good, cheap games. The PS2 library is so vast there should be something for everyone there.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
No.

PS2 had an amazing stream of games and niche titles.

PS3 is just now reaching that point, three years later. PS2 will live on in legend, PS3 will be forgotten as soon as Sony craps out the PS4.
No, PS2 had some issues with games in the beginning, just like PS3 did. PS3 will outlive the competition with its capabilities, so expect a 10-12 year lifecycle. There is plenty of room for an amazing library of games in that time.
 
This thread makes me think of so many good moments. Watching the MGS2 E3 2000 Trailer again. It is wrong to still believe MGS2 is still impressive all these years later? This system was such a little powerhouse.

Majine said:
No, PS2 had some issues with games in the beginning, just like PS3 did. PS3 will outlive the competition with its capabilities, so expect a 10-12 year lifecycle. There is plenty of room for an amazing library of games in that time.

I don't see that lifecycle happening. The more I think about it, the more I believe Sony would love to forget that the PS3 ever happened if the PS4 brings them back to the top. The system will forever be a black eye on the company despite the great games on it. It will always be seen as a failure.
 
dak1dsk1 said:
I wouldn't put DVDs on my bookshelf...

tell you what chief. clearly you have issues. There's a "show us your gaming setup" thread on GAF where you can check out many, many solutions other GAFers have for dealing with absolutely massive gaming and console libraries, and do so with style.

why not head that way, and stop ruining the PS2 appreciation thread with OCD "where can I hide my games away" nonsense.

No, PS2 had some issues with games in the beginning, just like PS3 did. PS3 will outlive the competition with its capabilities, so expect a 10-12 year lifecycle. There is plenty of room for an amazing library of games in that time.

I agree the PS3 technically is a "better" system than the PS2- better multiplayer setup, much better integrated online, easily upgradable storage (no more mem cards!) and this year in particular there's a lot of varied, quality software coming down the pike.

As costs to make games come down, and the cost of the hardware continues to fall I think we'll see it come into it's own.
 
I'm kind of disappointed with how it's just being left to fade away at retail, instead of clinging on like PS1 did. There were all sorts of nutty $10 releases popping up in PS1's twilight, including some neat (if amateurish) late localizations, I'd have really liked to have seen the same happen with PS2. It's not like there's any shortage of games that would work decently at that price; Earth Defense Force 2, Michigan, Zombie vs. Ambulance, stuff like that.
 
Shig said:
I'm kind of disappointed with how it's just being left to fade away at retail, instead of clinging on like PS1 did. There were all sorts of nutty $10 releases popping up in PS1's twilight, including some neat (if amateurish) late localizations, I'd have really liked to have seen the same happen with PS2. It's not like there's any shortage of games that would work decently at that price; Earth Defense Force 2, Michigan, Zombie vs. Ambulance, stuff like that.

eh? the ps2 is far stronger at this point in it's lifecycle than the PS1 was, (remember, the PS2 launched in 2000. it's been 10 years. do you know what kind of releases the PS1 was getting in 2005?? :lol)

It's not hard at ALL to find new games at the $10 price point. I bought dynasty tactics 2 and rogue galaxy at $7 each, NEW- and one of those was 50% off. (since PS2 games were buy one get one 50% off at FYE.)

go to amazon. search for all PS2 games under 10 or 20 bucks or so. prepare to have your fingers fall off clicking through many, MANY pages of budget software.
 
Manmademan said:
There's a "show us your gaming setup" thread on GAF where you can check out many, many solutions other GAFers have for dealing with absolutely massive gaming and console libraries
'aight captain, thnx.
 
Manmademan said:
eh? the ps2 is far stronger at this point in it's lifecycle than the PS1 was, and it's not hard at ALL to find new games at the $10 price point. I bought dynasty tactics 2 and rogue galaxy at $7 each, NEW- and one of those was 50% off. (since PS2 games were buy one get one 50% off at FYE.)

go to amazon. search for all PS2 games under 10 or 20 bucks or so. prepare to have your fingers fall off clicking through many, MANY pages of budget software.
Oh wow you can find a bunch of old releases for under $10 now thank you so much I never knew.

Sorta not what I was talking about at all, bucko!

The last few years PS1 was still at major retailers, there were heaps and heaps of NEW ten dollar games being published in tandem. Stuff like Power Shovel, Mobile Light Force, Eternal Eyes, Blaster Master Blasting Again, Top Shop, etc.
 
Shig said:
Yeah you don't really understand what I'm saying.

The last few years PS1 was still at major retailers, there were heaps and heaps of NEW ten dollar games being published in tandem. Stuff like Power Shovel, Mobile Light Force, Eternal Eyes, Blaster Master Blasting Again, Top Shop, etc.

uh...those games are horrible shovelware. not the best example.

The "last few years" of the PS1 were long before the 10 year mark. The PSone "rerelease" was in 2000: 5 years after the NA release of the system and even then pickings are slim. Hell, wiki cites the very last game released for the system in NA as Fifa 2005...which was released in 2004. Blaster Master (which is the only game in your list I've heard of) was released in 2001...at the 6 year mark. Bucko.

in contrast, the PS2 is still seeing new games this year like silent hill: shattered memories and an atlus game that escapes me (albeit most are ports of wii and psp titles) as well as the occasional DJ hero, Guitar hero, or rockband title. It's better supported. FACT.
 
The PS2 selling badly could have something to do that I haven't seen anyplace with new units in stock since Christmas. Of the 180 Gamestops within 100 miles of me, only 18 have new ones in stock.

BC PS3 on the way? Both seem to be OOS in quite a few places.
 
Willy105 said:
I never got a PS2, I was burned by the first Playstation (I own 4, because each one died), and the PS2 appeared to have the same problem. Same reason keeping me from the 360.

But problems aside, the PS2 was a brilliant product from marketing to design.

I have a launch PS2 still that must have averaged 4-5 hours of play everyday the last decade between being an early dvd player for me and then alot games. I never had an issue.
 
Koren said:
Far from that. Famicom was produced till september 2003 (20th year). So they should produce PS2 till after 2020 to break the record.

(see e.g http://www.gamespot.com/news/6029220.html)

The famicom may have been manufactured until 2003, but the last official cart made was long before that, I think. edit: wiki says it was an adventure island game in 1994, though "sunday funday" was released in NA in 1995, unlicensed.

The neo-geo should hold that record though...introduced in 1990 until the last official cart was made in 2004. either way you look at it though, the PS2 has a slim chance in hell of breaking either record :lol
 
DidntKnowJack said:
The successor to the Playstation arrived in 2000, with a lot of hype, a lot of disappointment with the launch shortages and lack of high quality games, but eventually became the juggernaut we all know today.

I wouldn't call SSX Tekken Tag Tournament low quality games.

The system had so many unforgettable games, like SSX, Silent Hill 2 and 3, Shadow of Memories (a.k.a. Shadow of Destiny), Resident Evil: Code Veronica X and 4, Project Zero series, Final Fantasy X and X2 (never played XI or XII), Soul Reaver 2 and Legacy of Kain: Defiance, God of War, and many many more. Good times. *snif*
 
Melchiah said:
I wouldn't call SSX Tekken Tag Tournament low quality games.

The system had so many unforgettable games, like SSX, Silent Hill 2 and 3, Shadow of Memories (a.k.a. Shadow of Destiny), Resident Evil: Code Veronica X and 4, Project Zero series, Final Fantasy X and X2 (never played XI or XII), Soul Reaver 2 and Legacy of Kain: Defiance, God of War, and many many more. Good times. *snif*

XII is AWESOME. don't believe the haters, that's an amazing, amazing game. no reason not to pick it up these days when it can be had so cheaply.
 
The most succesful system ever. Playing MGS2 and GTA3 for the first time was a revelation unlike which I have ever experienced.
 
Melchiah said:
I wouldn't call SSX Tekken Tag Tournament low quality games.
No, you're right. I loved SSX and to a lesser degree TTT. I still own them both. I was just speaking to the public's perception, right or wrong, that the first year of the PS2 was kind of dry. There were a couple games that I personally loved, but a lot of people, at least at the time, pretty much dismissed them. Or at least, didn't think they were worth plopping down 300 bucks (in the US) for a new system.

Looking back now, it's kind of funny because like I said in the OP, it was only a year later that the library exploded. 2001 was amazing for the PS2.
 
Drkirby said:
The PS2 selling badly could have something to do that I haven't seen anyplace with new units in stock since Christmas. Of the 180 Gamestops within 100 miles of me, only 18 have new ones in stock.

BC PS3 on the way? Both seem to be OOS in quite a few places.

no way we're seeing a BC PS3 again, with sony desperate to reduce costs. BC is no longer a priority for them. Far more likely than BC would be "per title" releases on PSN, or upcaled re-released like the GOW collection that actually generate revenue.

I'd say a redesigned budget PS2 re-release is more likely at some point, but even then THAT's stretching it a bit. I think the PS2 may just be done it's lifecycle in NA, with new units going to places like brazil that might have missed out.
 
I look forward to buying Sakura Wars as probably my last PS2 game (even though I'll be playing it on PS3).

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Manmademan said:
I hope that's the subsistence version. if not- back to the store with you! :lol :lol

edit:

now that that's been said, the sheer bulk of A to AAA titles on the PS2 is just staggering.
one can literally buy a game a DAY for a full year and not play everything worth playing.

I've literally become addicted to picking up $10 and under PS2 games in the last couple of weeks (they're all over) and even at those prices there are simply too many titles to choose from.

The SNES is nowhere near a competitor. the amount and quality of titles worth playing is a small fraction of what was released on PS2.

Yes sir! Subsistence version indeed (the one included in the Metal Gear Collection pack). I actually plan on sitting down and playing straight through MGS1-4 after I get an HD TV. As of right now, MGS3 is the only one I haven't played.

I actually went through a many year gaming hiatus when I college, so I missed out on pretty much the entire PS2 library. Since I don't have an HD TV yet, I've been going back and playing as many of the great PS2 games I've missed as I can. The last X console games I've beaten have been: God of War, Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, Final Fantasy X, and now I'm on Metal Gear Solid 3. Tell me that string of games (with the exception of FFX) isn't being in gamer heaven!

Throughout the rest of the year I plan to play: GTA San Andreas, FFXII, God of War 2, Shadow of the Colossus, and I'd like to make my way through the Silent Hill series.
 
Kintaro said:
I don't see that lifecycle happening. The more I think about it, the more I believe Sony would love to forget that the PS3 ever happened if the PS4 brings them back to the top. The system will forever be a black eye on the company despite the great games on it. It will always be seen as a failure.
PS3 is a far more important machine (for Sony) than the PS2 ever was. Not just for gaming, but for bluray as a brand.

Sony will force the PS3 into a success by keeping it on the market for as long as possible. It's too expensive to just forget and move on.
 
Majine said:
PS3 is a far more important machine than the PS2 ever was. Not just for gaming, but for bluray as a brand.

Sony will force the PS3 into a success by keeping it on the market for as long as possible. It's too expensive to just forget and move on.

This. Kintaro's view is a bit myopic.

even if we ignore that Sony intentionally decided to take a hit on PS3 sales to push Blu-Ray (and let's be honest...what PR mouthpieces say aside this is obvious) the PS3 is also tremendously important for establishing a robust online network in the form of PSN.

Digital distribution will eventually be the way forward, and as we can see from the integration of movies, comics, and even new TV series like "the tester" (lol) on PSN that sony views the PS3 as important in establishing PSN as a strong online "brand" much like amazon or the itunes store.

PSN got it's start on PS3, spread to the PSP, and will eventually be integrated into other devices such as Sony Ericsson phones and (the inevitable) Sony tablet PC that we all know will be coming sooner or later.
 
The first year of the PS2 was definitely a bit slow, at least until summer 2001. I remember when NBA Street and Twisted Metal Black hit the same day, I was at EB going back and forth between the two for about 30 minutes and said "fuck it, I'm buying both." :lol It was the first time I bought two PS2 games in the same day and after that things were good.

Before then, I would get by with replaying games. I must have beaten the first Onimusha about 10 times during the spring, got every ending in Shadow of Destiny, played a few years of Madden, and finished The Bouncer about 5 times...in one day. :p
 
So many awesome memories with the PS2.

I'll never forget the first time I saw Madden 2001. Some guys brought it back to the dorm, fired it up, and I was absolutely floored with the graphics. NCAA would go on to be my football game of choice.

It also introduced me to the Winning Eleven series and multiplayer Socom.

Some of my favorites were:

NCAA Football 2004
Winning Eleven 6
Metal Gear Solid 2
SOCOM 3
Hot Shots Golf Fore!
Star Wars Battlefront
 
Grand Theft Auto 3 is the one game that I will always remember when talking about PS2. There are tons of great memorable games but for me it's GTA3. I wish I could relive my experience the first time I played that game.
 
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