Fifty said:They're halfway there.
Cloudy said:It also works when the other team's best 2 players go down. Go Suns!!! Get that first spot!!!
W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
1 Phoenix 41 12 .774 - 19-5 22-7 22-8 7-1 110.2 102.0 Won 2 8-2
2 San Antonio 40 12 .769 ½ 23-1 17-11 23-8 5-3 97.0 86.5 Lost 1 7-3
3 Seattle 35 14 .714 4 19-7 16-7 22-9 7-4 101.4 96.9 Lost 1 7-3
4 Dallas 33 16 .673 6 17-9 16-7 18-10 6-4 102.1 96.9 Won 2 6-4
5 Sacramento 33 18 .647 7 19-8 14-10 18-16 5-3 103.1 100.1 Won 1 5-5
6 Houston 31 21 .596 9 ½ 17-10 14-11 17-11 7-3 93.3 91.7 Won 7 8-2
7 Memphis 30 22 .577 10 ½ 18-9 12-13 18-13 4-4 94.3 91.0 Lost 1 7-3
8 LA Lakers 25 24 .510 14 17-10 8-14 16-16 6-4 97.7 98.7 Lost 2 3-7
Minnesota 25 27 .481 15 ½ 14-13 11-14 18-13 7-3 96.8 96.3 Lost 2 2-8
LA Clippers 23 28 .451 17 17-10 6-18 13-20 5-6 95.0 95.0 Lost 5 4-6
Denver 23 28 .451 17 15-9 8-19 9-20 3-7 95.2 97.0 Lost 1 6-4
Portland 21 29 .420 18 ½ 13-10 8-19 9-19 3-5 92.6 95.0 Won 1 5-5
Utah 17 34 .333 23 11-14 6-20 13-18 5-6 95.6 99.0 Lost 1 3-7
Golden State 14 37 .275 26 10-16 4-21 7-25 1-10 94.5 99.9 Lost 2 2-8
New Orleans 11 41 .212 29 ½ 8-15 3-26 7-24 0-8 88.0 95.2 Won 1 3-7
Cloudy said:Don't say I didn't tell you come April
PS: That white chick comment was pretty lame too![]()
And tell me what?
Jumpman said:Whoa there, be careful with the glowing adjectives. The Heat are hardly a great team. Their just a decent team with a couple of good players getting fat off the pathetically weak eastern conference. If they played in the west, they would probably rank no higher than 5th or 6th. Hardly what I would call great.
The Spurs are the only "great" team in the league right now. They are followed by the very good, and deserving of respect, Sacremento Kings. The Sonics and Suns are strong up and comers, but they have yet to prove they are for real. Great teams are not made over night. To become great, you must prove yourself multiple times in the playoffs, usually over a period of at least a couple of years.
Comparing the current Heat to those Jazz and Bulls teams is laughable. Either one of those teams would have swept this Miami team in a seven game series. If the Spurs somehow meet up with them in the finals, I would expect them to do the same.
BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
Star-Ledger Staff
Roughly 30 years and 30 pounds ago, George Karl was one of the most annoying defenders in basketball, an inexhaustible pest who played so hard and defended so persistently he was known as "the flea."
So admittedly, Bruce Bowen is Karl's kind of player.
But the Denver coach understands why the Nets could be miffed by Bowen's tactics Friday night, when the Spurs swingman effectively took Vince Carter out of the game to spark a comeback.
"Bruce is good. I love his tricks, man -- he reminds me of me a little bit," Karl said before the Nets' 94-79 victory over the Nuggets last night.
"But you're getting into a really tough area. I don't think Bruce Bowen's a dirty player. He's a competitor, he's an angry defensive competitor who makes his living covering people and getting into people's heads.
"He's pushing the line all the time, some people think he crosses the line. I personally don't think he does. I just think he pushes it to the point where it becomes annoying. That's usually the sign of a great defensive player, a guy that gets annoying." Eventually, Karl got to the point: Whether Bowen's final "tactic" was a dirty play is in the eye of the beholder.
"I think Bruce crosses the line if he's playing against me," Karl said. "If he plays for me he doesn't cross the line."
that gets annoying." Eventually, Karl got to the point: Whether Bowen's final "tactic" was
BatiGOOOOOOL said:I await for another one of your witty responses in which you resort to calling me a fucking retard or Batihoe.
Eminem said:
Cloudy said:Actually, I thought it was lame cos you emphasized white chick like it's somehow better to be accused of raping a non-caucasian but whatever...
AstroLad said:why don't you worry about that first and resume the shit-talking for when you have something that even remotely resembles a decent basketball team.
Cloudy said:All I'm gonna say is Suns don't wanna see LA in the first round and if you watched their 2 games this year, I dunno why that is such an outlandish statement.
It's also funny how passionate you are about the Suns now. Where the fuck were you in this thread last season? :lol
Cloudy said:All I'm gonna say is Suns don't wanna see LA in the first round and if you watched their 2 games this year, I dunno why that is such an outlandish statement.
Oh right, those 2 games the Lakers won right? Yeah you guys sure were intimidating
BatiGOOOOOOL said:And where the fuck is he when the Suns lose? Not that I care, but I've noticed he disappears. ;-)
Cloudy said:LA led by double digits in the 4th of both games but choked at the end. It's not like they got blown out or even outplayed for most of the games. I like the Lakers chances against Phoenix more than any of the other top WC team so I'm rooting for your team
Oh and there's nothing wrong with being a fairweather fan if you're one. But putting down the Lakers who have a pretty respectable, playoff-eligible record given their numerous injuries is funny considering what the Suns were last year![]()
Cloudy said:I just call it like I see it, dude. The goaltending, the injuries to AK and Booze and any other "hating". Suns got lucky and sometimes that's better than being good. If it was the Lakers or any other team, I'd say it too...
AstroLad said:Huh?
If anything I am the first to announce a Suns loss and usually give props to the other team.
After the Grizz Loss:
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showpost.php?p=953159&postcount=49
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showpost.php?p=953187&postcount=51
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showpost.php?p=953236&postcount=54
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showpost.php?p=953259&postcount=57
Shit you even posted right below me. Apparently you are as perceptive as your boy in your avatar is ugly.
Only other loss all month was to Seattle, sorry I can't be in here after every single Suns game (win or lose), but I'll be sure to pencil this in from now on.
AstroLad said:Yeah, you're so well-known around these parts for your fine objective analysis.
Eminem said:
BatiGOOOOOOL said:Hahaha, you do that. But I was just kidding. It was more of a dig at not seeing you after the losses against the Spurs. ;-)
Takuan said:Alright, looking at that Bowen animation, I think you could at least argue that it's POSSIBLE he wasn't trying to hurt Vince. He may have been trying to do what he usually does after a jumpshot (back up on the player so he can't get the rebound), but because of the nature of Vince's shot, his leg got caught up. The rest was just Bowen himself trying not to fall down. I'll bet in regular speed that play looks a lot less dirty.
It's a lock: O'Neal still rocks the vote
Duncan close to Heat center in players' poll
By Chris Tomasson, Rocky Mountain News
February 15, 2005
Nobody this weekend will have to tell Shaquille O'Neal to his face he is not the best in the NBA. That is because the Miami Heat center was named the league's top player in a poll conducted by the Rocky Mountain News.
But it was close. The News polled 151 players, more than one-third of the NBA, and O'Neal received 34 votes (22.5 percent).
O'Neal barely beat out San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan, a two-time Most Valuable Player who received 30 votes (19.9 percent). Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett was third with 28 votes (18.5 percent).
"There is no other player in the league that you need to focus on as much as Shaq," said Golden State Warriors big man Dale Davis, who has battled O'Neal the past 13 seasons.
O'Neal led the Los Angeles Lakers to NBA titles in 2000, 2001 and 2002. He is in his first season with the Heat, having made Miami a threat to win a title.
"It's definitely gotta be Shaq," said New York Knicks guard Jamal Crawford. "Even though his stats aren't the same, he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants to. If you're starting a team, you go with Shaquille O'Neal, for sure."
O'Neal will make his ninth All-Star Game appearance Sunday at the Pepsi Center, having also been chosen for three games he missed because of injury. He shared All-Star MVP honors with Duncan in 2000.
If O'Neal can steer the Heat into this season's Finals, it could meet up with the Spurs. Duncan is gunning for his third title in seven seasons.
"He plays a very solid and fundamental game," Dallas Mavericks forward Alan Henderson said of Duncan. "He has lots of different skills and his teams consistently win."
The Timberwolves have not won with much consistency this season, which might have hurt Garnett, last season's MVP, in the voting. But he still is highly regarded.
"Just because he does it all," Chicago Bulls guard Chris Duhon. "He defends, runs the floor, can shoot it, pass it, can bring the ball up the court. He's just so gifted in all those areas."
Twelve players received votes for best player, with Memphis Grizzlies forward Pau Gasol, who got one, being the only one not named to the All-Star Game. Others getting 10 or more votes were Cleveland Cavaliers guard LeBron James with 14 (9.3 percent) and Lakers guard Kobe Bryant with 10 (6.6 percent).
Who is the best player?
The Rocky Mountain News polled 151 players, more than one-third of the NBA, on a variety of issues. How they responded when asked who is the best player in the NBA:
22.5% Shaquille O'Neal - Miami (34 Total Votes)
19.9% Tim Duncan - San Antonio (30 Total Votes)
18.5% Kevin Garnett - Minnesota (28 Total Votes)
9.3% Lebron James - Cleveland (14 Total Votes)
6.6% Kobe Bryant - Los Angeles Lakers (10 Total Votes)
4.0% Steve Nash - Phoenix (6 Total Votes)
2.6% Amare Stoudemire - Phoenix (4 Total Votes)
2.0% Tracy Mcgrady - Houston (3 Total Votes)
NBA players on the league's best
What some NBA players surveyed in the Rocky Mountain News NBA poll said about the best player in the league:
On Shaquille O'Neal:
"He's the best. He can do what he wants when he wants."
- Rodney Buford, New Jersey Nets guard
"There's Shaq, who blows everything up."
- Kyle Korver, Philadelphia 76ers forward
On Tim Duncan:
"Professionally, he comes to play every night and he makes his team better every year. What more could you ask from your franchise player?"
- Stephen Jackson, Indiana Pacers guard
On Kevin Garnett:
"He does everything. He's 6-11 and he does everything."
- Loren Woods, Toronto Raptors center
On LeBron James:
"LeBron, to me, does everything on the floor. He defends. He passes, scores. He does everything."
- Tyson Chandler, Chicago Bulls forward
Source: Rocky Mountain News
Fifty said:Wow, Mr. Max Contract, Zach Randolph gets a DNP:CD tonight while Joelzilla scores 19 and picks up 17 rebounds. The Blazers really messed up when they signed in long term with that kid.
Nice! Go Bulls!!!Eminem said:woo, in about an hour i'm leaving for the united center. if you see anyone in a Hinrich jersey, it's probably me.
BatiGOOOOOOL said:Uh-oh. ;-)
Lebron > Kobe
The players say so.
Eminem said:
They felt the same way about Vince a couple of years ago
Cloudy said:And AI and Ray and Tmac etc. Why are guys always judged by how they stack up to Kobe? Hmm....
Wade > Kobe is the next thing![]()
Cloudy said:And AI and Ray and Tmac etc. Why are guys always judged by how they stack up to Kobe? Hmm....
Wade > Kobe is the next thing![]()
As of late nobody is comparing NOBODY to Kobe
because basically his mystique was shattered after last year's finals
hence the reason their teams are WINNING this season
Without Kobe, the Lakers were a well oiled machine lacking killer instinct.
Cloudy said:Against Golden State twice and Clevland with Z having a terrible game. They lost to Utah, New Jersey (both at home) and Atlanta without Kobe. Yeah they were much better without him :lol
Dude averages 6.6 dimes a game and doesn't shoot only as much as any other top 10 scorer. What the fuck else can he do? Rudy's whole offensive scheme was isos and treys. They are only just now getting away from that crap...