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The Revenant is an excellent movie
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Had to pop in and chime in on this comment. Saw the movie as well and it was amazing and like your experience, I had these 2 guys in front talking it up like it was their fucking life story. To the point, during the credits I was so annoyed at this one dude that I kicked the back of the chair so hard it made him jump. Right after that, I just got up and left. And dude was like "wtf bro" "uhh" "wtf"
Again movie was amazing.
lazybones18
Banned
Go for that Best Picture Oscar!
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
No. He's British.
Lakershead22
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I agree with the OP. What an excellent movie. I was on the edge of my seat and Leo deserves to get an oscar.
10/10
10/10
THE REVENANT doesn't give the audience much of a reason to care about Hugh Glass, other than he knows the terrain and intuits how to elude the Arikara tribe, and Captain Henry is fond of him... Until Glass is (spoilers one can find in the trailer)
mauled by a bear and left powerless as Fitzgerald murders his son
From there, it's a trite revenge story elevated by gorgeous cinematography but wrought with pacing problems due to the overindulgence of its direction.
The story is a flimsy vector for the experience of Glass's journey.
DiCaprio's performance goes to great lengths, but his character plays more like an emotive crash dummy being batted back and forth between set pieces, rather than a man's harrowing journey across a wilderness to quell his rage.
afternoon delight
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Wonderful news eh? Totally deserved!
If they wanted to skip the actual size and girth aspect for an adaptation, I'd vote Paul Giamatti or Viggo Mortenson or dare I say... DDL? Imagine pale pasty DDL with blood red lips tossing a dead child aside! Oh, to dream!
That's a tough question- either Marlon Brando's ghost circa Apocalypse Now stature or Vincent D'nofrio. I imagine D'nofrio would devour the role.
If they wanted to skip the actual size and girth aspect for an adaptation, I'd vote Paul Giamatti or Viggo Mortenson or dare I say... DDL? Imagine pale pasty DDL with blood red lips tossing a dead child aside! Oh, to dream!
Romars202129
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Leo knocks another one out of the park. Hope he finally gets that Oscar, by God has he earned it, though in my opinion, j. Edgar was his biggest robbery.
Yeah, that bear sceneis something else so probably not wrong.
Yeah, that bear sceneis something else so probably not wrong.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
So i have stayed away from this thread but after tonight's win i really have to wonder just what the hell Oscar voters want from movies. I used to think that oscar bait films had to be about good dialogue, story, plot instead of just cinematography, acting and stunt work, but apparently not. And that's OK. Sometimes those movies are better than oscar baits, but I just dont see how this movie beats out Mad Max.
Mad Max had better action, stunts and some fantastic visuals. i guess it didnt have an oscar baitish soundtrack and long shots of the wilderness literally begging for an Oscar.
I love Leo but if he wins an oscar for this i will be very disappointed. he says like two words in the whole movie. You think Mad Max was a mute protagonist....
Oh welll. it's not a bad movie and I'd rather it win oscars than some pretentious oscar bait, but you need a good plot and story in movies.... whats here is just as vapid as a summer blockbuster movie. Star Wars had a better story and performances. Give Harrison Ford an Oscar.
EDIT: Just read the globes thread. people are shitting on Inarrito like he molested their family or something. I just want to clarify that I think he's a phenomenal director and this movie had some of the best directing and cinematography i have ever seen. i just dont think the plot and story hold up. it's kinda like Gravity. it's too simple.
Mad Max had better action, stunts and some fantastic visuals. i guess it didnt have an oscar baitish soundtrack and long shots of the wilderness literally begging for an Oscar.
I love Leo but if he wins an oscar for this i will be very disappointed. he says like two words in the whole movie. You think Mad Max was a mute protagonist....
Oh welll. it's not a bad movie and I'd rather it win oscars than some pretentious oscar bait, but you need a good plot and story in movies.... whats here is just as vapid as a summer blockbuster movie. Star Wars had a better story and performances. Give Harrison Ford an Oscar.
EDIT: Just read the globes thread. people are shitting on Inarrito like he molested their family or something. I just want to clarify that I think he's a phenomenal director and this movie had some of the best directing and cinematography i have ever seen. i just dont think the plot and story hold up. it's kinda like Gravity. it's too simple.
i dont know man, ill take this over mad max any time.
Vigilant Walrus
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How does this stack up to the directors other films? Birdman blew all my shit out of the water!
But the last 12 months.. The Martian, Sicario, Mad Max.. Does Rvernant really have the chops? Most of my friends are more interested in the hateful eight, but I dont think that looks as strong (from the trailer).
But the last 12 months.. The Martian, Sicario, Mad Max.. Does Rvernant really have the chops? Most of my friends are more interested in the hateful eight, but I dont think that looks as strong (from the trailer).
i havent seen sicario yet, but out of martian, mad max and revenant i think revenant is the best of the 3.
h8 is the next film im going to see.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Maybe they couldn;t understand him either?
Trailers don't do H8 justice, it has a way different feel. The Revenant's trailers on the other hand manage to capture much of what the movie ultimately ends up being.
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Just saw this.
Holy FUCK at the cinematography. Quite easily the best I have ever seen. It took the movie to new heights and had me mesmerized. Excellent film.
Holy FUCK at the cinematography. Quite easily the best I have ever seen. It took the movie to new heights and had me mesmerized. Excellent film.
Manny Calavera
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My most anticipated movie from last year and can't wait to see it finally. Especially looking forward to the performance by Dicaprio and cinematography by Lubezki. Happy to see the film do well at the Globes.
criesofthepast
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Leo is one of the greats of our time. Hardy to me is still very underrated. They both just seriously blew my mind in this movie.
I didn't see many movies this year but this was my favorite.
Go see this. Films like this don't come around often. Show the suits in Hollywood movies like this deserve to be made and go see it.
I didn't see many movies this year but this was my favorite.
Go see this. Films like this don't come around often. Show the suits in Hollywood movies like this deserve to be made and go see it.
Came into this with open expectations, exceeded them quite a bit. What surprised me the most was how well the action was directed, particularly the fantastic opening sequence. Although I did feel a little bit of a disconnect with Leo's character, it still managed to hook me in for most of the film. The ending reminded me of two of my favourite Korean films so there's that too lol.
future.drew
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Better than Django, pffffffffft hahahaha wow damn didn't know we had a professional stand up here.
leos indian relationship and spirituell flashbacks were totally uneeded in the film and felt like a drag to go through. Dont know why they invented his son anyway. the movie was great and would be even better without that nonsense.
Is one of them The Yellow Sea?
I've noticed a few people mention Brando but that just shows how actual height of the actor is unimportant. He was only 5'9''. I always wanted to see Philip Seymour Hoffman but that's not going to happen for obvious reasons. It needs to be someone who can be both pompous and scary.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Django is entertaining but that's bout it
shira
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Hardy apparently doesn't campaign well.
OrbitalBeard
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I can't decide if I want to see this or The Big Short this week. Ugh. Both look so good.
what a silly film. zero story. zero realism. barely any logic. bad dialogue for characters in that era. and why the hell would leo win an award for that role. all he does is crawl around and sleep. that takes talent? LOL
a few of my favourite parts:
this move should be called man of steel 2 or chuck Norris episode 4.
a few of my favourite parts:
leo is out hunting - shoots a deer or something but then hears a shot and knows its trouble back at camp. no one else could possibly be hunting like him
younger kid with tom hardy couldn't find leo's son, was searching and calling for him all over, however, leo crawls for 20 feet and finds him beside a tree
leo's doing well, can fish, but next scene he is dying of hunger and risks going up to a native who miraculously is good to him, of course he eats raw bison liver while a fire blazes beside him.
he is in super cold water all the time but his cut (that would kill anyone) don't bother him
tom and the kid waltz into an attacked native village (suddenly they don't feel any threat) that seems rich with food (livestock walking around etc) and the kid leaves some food for a native - who starts eating straight away
leo - a super tracker couldn't tell where tom went - they are about 50 yards apart in deep snow
leo sleeps inside a horse to ward of cold I guess. the whole time before he was fine with his pelt coat though. hmm. what was the point of this nonsense?
younger kid with tom hardy couldn't find leo's son, was searching and calling for him all over, however, leo crawls for 20 feet and finds him beside a tree
leo's doing well, can fish, but next scene he is dying of hunger and risks going up to a native who miraculously is good to him, of course he eats raw bison liver while a fire blazes beside him.
he is in super cold water all the time but his cut (that would kill anyone) don't bother him
tom and the kid waltz into an attacked native village (suddenly they don't feel any threat) that seems rich with food (livestock walking around etc) and the kid leaves some food for a native - who starts eating straight away
leo - a super tracker couldn't tell where tom went - they are about 50 yards apart in deep snow
leo sleeps inside a horse to ward of cold I guess. the whole time before he was fine with his pelt coat though. hmm. what was the point of this nonsense?
I have to decide between this and Creed. Which is better gaf?
NoblesseOblige
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Joke post?
Also it was an Elk, not a deer.
I'd tell you why the rest of your bullets are wrong too but I need to be sure you were serious first.
I'm serious. I wanna hear your insights though.
Inferno313
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Creed.
Glorious Ownage
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I hate to agree because I really think Leo is an extremely talented and consistent actor that needs more formal recognition (Oscar)...But...Tom Hardy is incredible to watch he embodies his characters so well. The amount of depth he conveys even when he's not given any lines blows my mind. Like
when he killed hawk you could tell it was a brash decision and he immediately realized the brevity of the situation when he noticed/remembered Leo but there was no going back.
Honestly I was extremely impressed by all of the actors in that movie. Even the younger ones like hawk and that kid from that millers movie.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
In the end, it's a movie, and as with all movies, there is some level of suspension of disbelief associated with it. But I still feel most your nitpicks are explained from a more discerning viewing of the film:
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Pretty close to the beginning of the movie members of the fur trading company were complaining about Leo's character out hunting while they were all working on skinning and preparing the fur. There would have been no reason for any of them to fire a shot off while they were skinning and preparing their product to be transported/sold. So obviously the sound of the gun going off was enough to signal there was trouble.
2.
If I recall correctly there were numerous cuts to imply Leo crawled a significant distance to find his son. It wasn't 20 feet away. In any case, I don't recall Bridger ('younger kid) doing more than calling for Hawk before Fitzgerald convinced him he must be out doing something.
3.
There are somewhat significant jumps in time between scenes. It could have been days between scenes. Remember, Leo's character traveled around 200 miles in the span of the film. Also a fish isn't going to sate hunger for long. Especially if one was starved before it. As for the Native American 'miraculously' being good to him. I believe Leo's character recognized the man as being Pawnee, the tribe Leo's character spent time with and is familiar with.
4.
I believe the village was quickly judged to be Pawnee, which, at least compared to the Arikara, are presented as more peaceful and friendly to fur traders. As for the livestock, I believe they were boars. Which if you've ever met in real life, are tough as nails. These are things that will continue charging at you after taking a bullet to the skull. Probably not the easiest animal to just kill and eat for a lone individual whose home and people were just massacred.
5.
I didn't spot it myself but someone I was viewing it with mentioned that they show briefly that Tom purposefully took some steps and movements to make tracking slightly more difficult to delay Leo. I'll need to see it again to confirm.
6.
I think 'fine' is a bit of an exaggeration. The heavy fur he had been wearing was just the best option he had for most the film. The freshly deceased horse carcass was at that moment the warmer and superior option, so it was wise to take the opportunity to rest. Only thing I didn't like is the removal of all the organs. I believe the better option would have been to leave some of the guts to maintain more of the inside body heat.
And finally to address this bit:
You say it had zero story? Did you fall asleep or something? No realism? I mean yeah, some parts are a bit dramatized, but like I mentioned previously, it's a movie. It's more 'real' than most films. Not sure what logic has to do with anything. As for the dialogue not being accurate for that era, I recall reading an article on how except for a couple lines (particularly the 'pansy bitch' one) the movie was fairly representative of how people spoke in the day. And now for your most egregious comment: Implying no talent was necessary for Leo's role. Though I don't necessarily think he deserves an Oscar for this movie (though I wouldn't say he doesn't deserve it either), saying this didn't show his talent is bunk. Words aren't the only part of acting. Leo did an astounding job in his performance of conveying the pain and struggle his character was under without words. The only part I didn't like is near the end
when a comparatively insignificant comment sets him off
Elaborate. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
I don't know how interpret that because I'm not familiar with Pitchfork.
Edit: Oh, it was meant to be an insult. How clever, I guess. Nice work denigrating the style of the post instead of the points it addresses. Looking through your post history shows you thought THE REVENANT was "great." I'm sorry if my opinion about it didn't align with your clearly "superior" take on it. How dare I offer a take on a movie that's not the same as how you feel about it.
Creed
Film had nice visuals in the cinematography and CG, but over all I was letdown. Too often it felt like the brutality delivered little payoff. The realism of it clashed too much with the suspension of disbelief required to accept the survival aspect. Enjoyed Hardy's performance, but Leo was too one note for me. Still though, there was enough quality there for me to recommend this to others, but it will come with some warnings.
Agree with you. I liked it more than Django.
Zantetsuken
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I think it was moreso, while you're on the brink of death, you tend to think of happier moments in your life and even hallucinate. Like your life flashing before you eyes. But he would stay determined because of what happened to his son. That's what I thought at least.
But it's good to see my Inception brothers back together again. I hope they are both in Dunkirk.
Nah, it was Memories of Murder and Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. I'd highly recommend both, pretty much masterpieces.
The whole past told in sporadic flashbacks got old for me too and I wish they made some of it more cohesive or made them even shorter/removed them. Also, what are we supposed to make of the ruined Christian chapel? I thought such a construct wouldn't even exist yet in America. I am unfamiliar with early colonial history though so if someone could clear that up I'd be grateful.
Ah Ok. Yeah, both great. Yellow Sea has some brutal knife fights so that's why I was thinking of that.
I feel like the tone of the movie was fine but one more scene of tension would have done wonders for the pace of the movie. In the actual Hugh Glass story he apparently was taken hostage by Natives and only survives after witnessing one of his fellow trackers killed. They could have even had a scene like this at some point with Leo and the tracker boss guy just to further develop their relationship and explain why he respected Hugh Glass so much. They could have put that at the start and moved the awesome battle until farther in the movie.
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