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The Revenant is an excellent movie
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No, they really can't. Not as convincingly as Leo did here anyway. Plus he was given the option to eat fake meat, he just didn't personally think it'd look or be realistic enough. And those are not close to the only emotions he expressed either, far from it. His performance through and through was immense, as was Hardy's.
Yeah I saw that part with the horse too, but i'd class it as an accident more than a mistake.
Napoleonthechimp
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He really did get mauled half to death by a bear. His back was torn open with his muscles and ribs exposed. After that he had to use maggots to eat away the rotten flesh before native Americans stitched a bear pelt to his back to cover the wounds.
You can read about it on his Wikipedia article.
Did you also notice that
that canteen with the spiral was thrown on him in his grave, then he woke up and immedeatley started turning and crawling out of there. A few shots later, the canteen hangs at his belt. ^^
StrawberryJam
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Saw it last night. Did not enjoy it at all. All the individual components were great but as a package I just didn't care about what was going on. Looked beautiful, music was great, Tom Hardy stole the film and Leo was OK too I suppose. I've never seen so many things in a film that were meant to shock me that I had absolutely no reaction towards. I actually laughed on a few occasions.
Spoilers for the ending.
Spoilers for the ending.
When Tom Hardy is getting chased by Leo and falls on his ass down that hill I burst out laughing. That was some Looney Tunes shit. That fight was pretty good though.
Yeah I saw that part with the horse too, but i'd class it as an accident more than a mistake.
idk why, but i feel that was about timing of the horse jumping or jolting. i don't think he actually kicked the horse. with his other foot already in the stirrup i cant see how his foot would go that far back to the other horses face.
could be wrong though.
He definitely accidentally kicked it, the horse is literally right up against his, he couldn't have avoided it.
generic_username
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A very well made movie. One of the years best for sure. Jaw dropping visuals, a great score and wonderful performances. The ending was amazing!
Just got back from seeing this. I loved the way it was shot and the acting overall was really well done. Freakin DiCaprio and Hardy hit it out of the park.
That being said, it was really freakin LONG. Probably too long for its own good. Each time a Native American entered the scene (the guy that was helping him and then the girl) I became more interested in their subplots and cared less about the overall revenge storyline.
By the end I can't say I cared whether or not he got revenge for his son.
That being said, it was really freakin LONG. Probably too long for its own good. Each time a Native American entered the scene (the guy that was helping him and then the girl) I became more interested in their subplots and cared less about the overall revenge storyline.
By the end I can't say I cared whether or not he got revenge for his son.
generic_username
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Got goosebumps every time this played against the stunning backdrops on display.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4oEhmvaC4I
Made the locations feel foreboding, haunting, beautiful and inviting all at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4oEhmvaC4I
Made the locations feel foreboding, haunting, beautiful and inviting all at the same time.
Megalosaro
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He was my favorite character. Just like he was in star wars and just like he was in ex machina.
That's a good place to start. It doesn't have a single moment as bad as "that scene," but there's a lot more violence overall in this film of a fairly realistic degree. The opening scene is probably the most violent overall, but that's because it's a straight-up massacre, versus the more one-on-one violence that occurs in the rest of the film.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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It's one of his weaker films, but still pretty decent.
I think it's better than Django. Far better even.
BannedEpisode
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Hardy was better than Leo in this.
And I like me some Leo.
And I like me some Leo.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Completely agree on both points.
Aaronology
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Yup. I thought Leo was absolutely amazing and still Hardy easily stole the show for me. One of the best antagonists I've seen in a long time.
Yeah I saw that part with the horse too, but i'd class it as an accident more than a mistake.
That poor horse.
Yeah I saw that part with the horse too, but i'd class it as an accident more than a mistake.
I guess it could of just been the horse reacting
Back from seeing it this evening.
It really is beautifully filmed and very strongly acted. It's also 45 minutes too long, and the pacing issues show up in the oddest of places. The story advances in lurches, halted often by those incredibly repetitive flashback / dream sequences. We got the point by the third or fourth one, another 17 were not needed. By the time Leo is
the film had lost nearly all of the goodwill Leo was working so hard to earn. Really awful stuff. The actual story is both very simple and maddeningly dumb.
The finale was deeply frustrating.
The violence had me peeking between my fingers a few times, as I get squeamish about knife work, but I knew what I was in for going in.
I'm not sure what would be more entertaining: Giving Leo the Oscar and setting him free from torturing himself to get one, or holding out and seeing what crazy shit he does next to try and get one. I think he deserves it, but the film deserves little else.
It really is beautifully filmed and very strongly acted. It's also 45 minutes too long, and the pacing issues show up in the oddest of places. The story advances in lurches, halted often by those incredibly repetitive flashback / dream sequences. We got the point by the third or fourth one, another 17 were not needed. By the time Leo is
daydreaming about standing in that destroyed church hugging a tree, while a bell tolls in the background,
The one guy who gives a crap about Glass decides to leave him with the one man that clearly wants him dead. Okay. Gee, I wonder what's going to happen.
The finale was deeply frustrating.
We clearly need a one on one battle between Leo and Hardy for reasons, so they decide to send Leo out with exactly one other person despite an entire camp that could have helped hunt down Hardy. Then they split up. When your agonizing art film is taking cues from bad horror movies in order to manufacture its climax, something has gone deeply wrong.
The violence had me peeking between my fingers a few times, as I get squeamish about knife work, but I knew what I was in for going in.
I'm not sure what would be more entertaining: Giving Leo the Oscar and setting him free from torturing himself to get one, or holding out and seeing what crazy shit he does next to try and get one. I think he deserves it, but the film deserves little else.
Digital-Hero
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If you like watching dolly push shots of trees, this movie is great.
I'd give it a 8/10. Leo was great, but the poor pacing was a distraction. I was wondering what time it was a few times in the movie. Mad Max had near perfect pacing. Hope it gets Best Picture.
I'd give it a 8/10. Leo was great, but the poor pacing was a distraction. I was wondering what time it was a few times in the movie. Mad Max had near perfect pacing. Hope it gets Best Picture.
To me it looked like steadicam most of the time? I think it's probably a lot easier to do a steadicam-shot in a forest than lay out dolly tracks.
The movie looked wonderful. The music was nice. 9/10 because it was a bit too long, and it needed something to push it over the edge.
I wish that something like AC3 had captured that kind of atmosphere. I would like to play a game where you just explore North America in the woods.
I wish that something like AC3 had captured that kind of atmosphere. I would like to play a game where you just explore North America in the woods.
Saw it, liked it but the movie definitely has a few issues.
For one thing, its just way too long -- the flashback and nature scenes are repetitive and don't really seem to add that much to the narrative (though the cinematography is really excellent). Similar scenes in The New World were much better done and elevated the narrative, Innaritu is no Malick at least not yet.
Also I felt like the climax of the movie was the bear mauling, after that you are just waiting for Glass to heal up properly and take revenge/the movie to end. We all know that he's going to make it to an encounter with Fitzgerald in the end and the movie did not leave us with much doubt that he would win. I would have liked to have scenes where the narrative could show us that Glass has suffered greatly in this ordeal and might not have enough left to win against Fitz-- he never seems to miss a shot or be really hindered by the trials he goes through.
For one thing, its just way too long -- the flashback and nature scenes are repetitive and don't really seem to add that much to the narrative (though the cinematography is really excellent). Similar scenes in The New World were much better done and elevated the narrative, Innaritu is no Malick at least not yet.
Also I felt like the climax of the movie was the bear mauling, after that you are just waiting for Glass to heal up properly and take revenge/the movie to end. We all know that he's going to make it to an encounter with Fitzgerald in the end and the movie did not leave us with much doubt that he would win. I would have liked to have scenes where the narrative could show us that Glass has suffered greatly in this ordeal and might not have enough left to win against Fitz-- he never seems to miss a shot or be really hindered by the trials he goes through.
I loved everything about this movie. I knew very little about it coming in to it. I don't know I was even aware Tom Hardy was in it. He blew me away though. I immediately googled the Oscar nods convinced he deserved one was pleased to see he did indeed. I put this up there with Assassination of Jesse James for my favorite western.
orthodoxy1095
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Just saw it this evening. Agree with a lot of the comments in this thread. It's a pretty solid film and Leo is particularly brilliant. I was extremely impressed by Hardy, and I actually didn't realize it was him for a while.
However, Leo is very nearly let down by the poor pacing. As many have mentioned, the quasi-spiritual flashback stuff was just awful. It was so corny and cliche that it came close to ruining the rawness of the film that they worked so hard to create. The whispering woman voice and nature shots would have been enough and generally felt thematically appropriate. All the stuff with her bodily cut in? Awful.
Yadda yadda, tampering with artistic vision is bad, but I'm curious what the movie would be like if someone cuts all/most of that stuff out when we get the Blu-Ray release. I hope someone does just for my own curiousity.
However, Leo is very nearly let down by the poor pacing. As many have mentioned, the quasi-spiritual flashback stuff was just awful. It was so corny and cliche that it came close to ruining the rawness of the film that they worked so hard to create. The whispering woman voice and nature shots would have been enough and generally felt thematically appropriate. All the stuff with her bodily cut in? Awful.
Yadda yadda, tampering with artistic vision is bad, but I'm curious what the movie would be like if someone cuts all/most of that stuff out when we get the Blu-Ray release. I hope someone does just for my own curiousity.
Honestly, I was disappointed. It wasn't bad, but by no means deserving of the praise outside the acting. Leo, Hardy, and Gleeson all did a great job. It's the only reason why I care about this 2 and a half hour long film.
The film at best had material for 2 hours. They could have lost quite a bit.
Why I want to say its another movie in a bit of the same vain, I thought the execution of Bone Tomahawk was far better. Another slower burn that wrapped up right when it was getting to the point of being too long.
The film at best had material for 2 hours. They could have lost quite a bit.
Why I want to say its another movie in a bit of the same vain, I thought the execution of Bone Tomahawk was far better. Another slower burn that wrapped up right when it was getting to the point of being too long.
Speaking of bad movie tropes, I laughed out loud in the theater when Gleeson
started talking about seeing his wife again. RIP in peace.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Awesome movie grusome as hell though man@ the gore.
Dude ran his horse off the cliff then cut it open removed the insides then slept in it to stay warm.
While yeah, it would have been hard for Hardy's character to fight off a posse of men, the terrain sucks and more men/horses = more noise. Leo's plan was to sneak up on him, and clearly Hardy is good at what he's doing because he gets the draw even without much noise. Splitting up means more ground covered, obviously, and less chance for him to get away. Its a tradeoff, less than a trope.
Also there is a case for Domhall's character not wanting anyone to know that Hardy's character has stolen all the money. (I should remember their names, hah)
Also there is a case for Domhall's character not wanting anyone to know that Hardy's character has stolen all the money. (I should remember their names, hah)
According to the true story its based on, Glass tracked him down but given Fitzgerald had enlisted so Glass couldn't kill him because of the heavy penalty for killing an enlisted man.
I had already been familiar with the story, so I was half expecting him to be robbed of his vengeance.
Valkyr Junkie
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Does anyone know what kind of trees they were walking through early in the movie? The weird ones with really short, thick branches? They weren't snow-covered.
Agreed with a lot of the more insightful commentary here as well.
The flashbacks were overused and nearly derailed things. Why wasn't the son more involved in the "spirit" scenes? We had much more of a connection with him than we ever did with the wife.
The ending was disappointing in some aspects because of the poor horror story tropes.
The opening shot of the trees and the water was one of the most incredible scenes I've ever seen. I can't wait to watch that scene on OLED with bluray.
The flashbacks were overused and nearly derailed things. Why wasn't the son more involved in the "spirit" scenes? We had much more of a connection with him than we ever did with the wife.
The ending was disappointing in some aspects because of the poor horror story tropes.
Only take 2 people to hunt down a grizzled explorer who can kill without a moments hesitation? Yeah, dumb. The fight itself was gloriously brutal though and I enjoyed it.
I didn't mind them leaving Hardy with Leo because they left him with the 2 honest kids and he was first and foremost a mercenary so the money payoff was enough to justify that scenario.
I didn't mind them leaving Hardy with Leo because they left him with the 2 honest kids and he was first and foremost a mercenary so the money payoff was enough to justify that scenario.
The opening shot of the trees and the water was one of the most incredible scenes I've ever seen. I can't wait to watch that scene on OLED with bluray.
Yeah, he kind of stole the show for me. But I think he was also given more to work with than Leo.
Oh my god, that was amazing.
Freewheelin'
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I'd argue it was one of his worst. His worst of the five films he made this year for sure
Saw this last night and a few posts into this thread, this absolutely summed up how I feel about the film. Padding out the amount of time it took for Glass to get back with dream sequences that felt pointless and that never made me feel anything, I ended up getting a bit frustrated. By the time
the horse falls of the cliff
Also agree with others that the final fight, brutal as it was, ended up being quite cliche in the run up with the
two of them splitting up and Gleeson's inevitable, heavily sign-posted death
Leo, Tom and Gleeson were great in it though. The cinematography was spectacular as well, even if there were a few too many 10 second stationary shots of landscapes book-ending every scene.
UberTag
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Second screening of this film improved my impressions of it quite a bit... especially with the performances. Hardy, in particular. Love the squirrel god monologue about his father.
That said, my rating only leapt from a meager 4/10 to a 6/10 on the strength of both the acting and Lubezki being awesome. Still easily my lowest-rated of the Best Picture nominees... and the one I ultimately expect to win next month.
It struck me as rather ironic that Fitzgerald's treachery inadvertently saved Glass' life as the Ree (non-imaginary ones) did happen upon their camp long before Hugh was mobile and, had they been loyal to their orders, they would have either died right there (Glass would have been a sitting duck) or they would have fled and abandoned him behind to save their own necks. It was only the act of killing Hawk and leaving Glass behind that motivated Hugh to put enough ground between him via crawling to eventually escape from the Ree down the river.
That said, my rating only leapt from a meager 4/10 to a 6/10 on the strength of both the acting and Lubezki being awesome. Still easily my lowest-rated of the Best Picture nominees... and the one I ultimately expect to win next month.
Fried Food
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Someone hasn't seen Locke.
shira
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Glass
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ROFL, this is hilarious, fucking hollywood twisting the stories into something more interesting
"Glass later learned that Fitzgerald had joined the army and was stationed at Fort Atkinson, in present-day Nebraska. He traveled there as well, where Fitzgerald returned his stolen rifle. Glass reportedly spared Fitzgerald's life because of the heavy penalty for killing a soldier of the United States Army."
The best thing about it, is that he is wearing a squirrel cap for the last act of the movie - make of that what you will 
Movie was alright. It was captivating at times, but as soon as I began to critically question scenes and and motives, it crumbled a bit.
When Leo jumped the horse down the hill and crawling YET AGAIN looking forward in agony I couldn't help but laugh - at times it was just too much what the movie threw at him.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Had some time to think about this film and I still think it was only a 7/10 at best. It's the most overrated movie since The Martian, though a bit better as Leo's performance is a lot better than the lazy acting Matt Damon brought in that mess of a film.
Honestly I felt the worst for the animals. Those poor
Honestly I felt the worst for the animals. Those poor
grizzly cubs have no mom now, and that poor horse didn't deserve to go over a cliff
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