Abilidebob
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I still have no idea what moe is.
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cute anime girls doing cute anime things
The point is, people are going to have little arguments over every little thing in a piece of media. Be it about, job, title, rank, gender, you name it and someone will find a way to have a discussion/argument about them and "who is best".
Abilidebob
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So boys can't be moe?
You can detect it by the character design and by seeing what they do and how they do it.
Simple example for design:
Some will and are arguing. But enough people won't discuss who is the best girl/guy or who is the best white/black/yellow/red/green actor in a series. The reason why should be obvious.
A good, if maybe too reductive, breakdown.
Myself and others have been writing about this weird side effect of the larger nerd culture for a decade now.
Hey that's not fair. They could be both. /s
I see your troll attempts are just as terrible outside the NBA threads.
Well damn.
Practically every western TV fandom has an enormeous part exclusively dedicated to shipping.
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Deleted member 231381
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And regardless of the origin of the source, they're almost unanimously socially maladjusted wierdos who can't form their own relationships and are reduced to vicariously living through fictional characters.
Not sure what that has to do with what I posted? Who gets together with whom (assuming that's what you are talking about) usually has to do with character traits and their chemistry together.
John Kowalski
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moe is a feeling of deep care and concern, something that is moe is something that makes you care for them as if they were very fragile things
LyleLanley
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I'd say that's likely.
To be fair, I'm never part of these discussions (obviously) but that's the only thing that makes sense.
You wouldn't discuss who is the best girl and then who is the best guy and then these two have to be together (I hope).
Abilidebob
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Kowalski's is the most accurate, but moe is very often misused in other meanings so you have to gleam from context what someone means when they talk about moe.
1st and 2nd quote are in the same boat. John Kowalski is more like an idealized/the first version of moe (in my opinion). Look at the crooked tooth that one character has in the picture I posted. She has it because it's considered "moe"/makes the character look more like that for whatever reason.
Not anymore, in my opinion. It got bastardized a lot.
What should be "moe" is cute and what's...that in the picture, is "moe".
Snape is the best male character? Nah, it actually has to do with neither points that are being discussed. It's just completely random.
meltingparappa
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This is maybe a more direct example of a "you know it when you see it" defintion of 'moe'
Think of it as a weaponized form of that "hnnngh" feeling of seeing a kitten in a legcast, and not usually in an inherently sexualized manner. Understandably, floats very few boats outside of anime circles.
Also as far as the question posed by the article, Stump's succinct answer is worth posting on every page.
Think of it as a weaponized form of that "hnnngh" feeling of seeing a kitten in a legcast, and not usually in an inherently sexualized manner. Understandably, floats very few boats outside of anime circles.
Also as far as the question posed by the article, Stump's succinct answer is worth posting on every page.
OniBarubary
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I like how hosanna posts a concise and thorough explanation of the landscape of anime and why certain views are inaccurate or based upon emotional reactions to marketing or merchandising that isn't reflective of the actual output of these studios or address the legitimate problems with anime or it's underlying sexist concerns and people just go "Yeah but it doesn't match up with what I FEEL as someone who hates anime and wishes it was my rose-colored view of the past so it's wrong"
Don't let not knowing what the fuck you're talking about stop you from posting.
Don't let not knowing what the fuck you're talking about stop you from posting.
meltingparappa
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But you don't understand! Only entertainment from my adolescence is good. Everything else is terrible and I refuse to do any research or accept examples otherwise.
Milly Osworth
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The young girl anime avatars are terrifying. Why would an adult use that?!
Well, that's the acting part at least. But when she does nothing, it's not moe. The other part is the "looking moe" that I already mentioned.
Add cat ears and she would be a poster child for that. She is considered moe.
Not considered moe, but it definitely fits the definition of John Kowalski.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
OniBarubary
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I sure miss the days of Go Nagai and 80s anime where the women in them at least had the decency to get raped before getting killed off (as is pretty much objective truth from my deep research of 3 movies I watched on Saturday Anime on Sci-Fi over 10 years ago).
Let's see...
www.google.com/search?q=best+female+character
Well, lots of rankings. Obviously female character is the same as girl in the context of "best girl" used in anime communities.
Let's see one of the links
www.afterellen.com/tv/193883-the-top-65-kick-ass-female-fantasy-characters
There's discussion in the comments! The phrase is not said explicitly, but the idea is the same.
What about waifus? People outside the anime community would like to take a character as wife/husband? Why, yes!
www.google.com/search?q=characters+you+would+marry
Lots of clickbait shit, but there are more "in depth" stuff:
https://www.quora.com/What-fictional-character-would-you-marry-if-you-could
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3pgw0j/if_you_could_marry_a_fictional_character_who/
Who would've thought that people would like to discuss characters? Especially after you categorize them by something that they have/are, such as by gender, since it reduces the options and make discussion more fun.
Baron von Loathsome
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I suppose it would, but it wouldn't really be relevant unless you were posting crap about how Hillary Clinton is secretly a Jew who wants to undermine democracy.
No one disagreed with him though (well, I did when he made a generalized statement about anime fans).
We are discussing other things.
You did read that bit where I said "some" people will do that. "Some" of 100 million - as an example - people is actually not an insignificant amount.
The Silver
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nope, still counts, now get back in your cellZero²;213029712 said:
Combination of social ostracism breeding sympathy for progressive ideologies that speak the language of the oppressed, high incidence of LGBT participation in the community, and high concentration of stories in anime & manga with homosexual relationships and queer themes tended to make these communities ahead of the ideological curve by 10+ years (or more for fans outside of North America.) Looking for places to fit in online helped push a lot of kids leftward, and now it's pushing them rightward as /a/-/pol/ culture becomes the edgy cool kid ideology on anime social networks and social liberalism slowly supplants conservatism as the mainstream culture to rage against.
Progressive anime fans still exist but they're typically older, or invisible to other people because they're minding their own business and not perpetually flinging their soiled diapers at internet strangers, or well-meaning but completely unapproachable due to their intolerance for any ideological impurity like certain corners of tumblr. I'll also add that there are also (arguably) more female and LGBT anime fans than ever, and while some may dismiss this as a positive development because it's partially a consequence of the Japanese anime industry realizing that women were an untapped market and increasingly peddling to them, to use the GAF parlance, the same male "waifus" that people denounce male otaku for supporting, the hobby is becoming more demographically diverse in spite of the explosion of misogyny.
Baron von Loathsome
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Probably relevant to this thread, Crunchyroll is showing ads for a SPLC-certified hate group.
It's probably just a mistake, but the timing doesn't help.
It's probably just a mistake, but the timing doesn't help.
The Silver
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please sir, you couldn't tell that's from an anime unless you already are an anime watcher, I found the loophole.
I hope you follow with your one.
Seductivpancakes
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According to a recent gaf thread, it's okay to bully people for liking anime.
Leafhopper
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It's more than a recent one but, it's fine as long as it's that. It really is unfortunate since some people just don't bother posting anymore since a lot of the replies they get, even if they are valid ones to the conversation, are just "Well you have an anime avatar so your opinion is disregarded." Even in a thread where that has nothing to do with it.
That isn't the problem people have with it if you actually read what people were complaining about.
EvilKatarn
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Just report them and they're gone for a few weeks.
Right. It's a certain type of anime avatar.
Some people love projecting on others. The fact that some people get annoyed just by simply seeing a little girl in an avatar kinda says a lot.
John Kowalski
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I'm pretty sure everyone likes my anime avatars.
I want to think it's a coincidence because there's a lot of good guys here with that kind of avatars.
but everytime I take a look around twitter and see the usual harassers (be GG or not) 8/10 of them has a moe anime girl avatar. At the end it sucks because those guys are giving a bad image to the rest of anime fans.
but everytime I take a look around twitter and see the usual harassers (be GG or not) 8/10 of them has a moe anime girl avatar. At the end it sucks because those guys are giving a bad image to the rest of anime fans.
Baron von Loathsome
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Sad!
Yep, pretty frustrating when someone makes a serious thoughtful post and gets disregarded just like that. How are you supposed to have a conversation like that?
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