KDups said:I don't know, Lem's story arc was so tragic that his murder really soured me on Vic and Shane (er, and I guess Ronnie by extension). Vic's "holier than thou" routine in the premiere rang hollow to me. At least Tony Soprano has the balls and self awareness to say all his decisions have been shit. Vic needs to admit it already.
Cavinaugh's dirty turn was disappointing. I guess we're supposed to go back to Claudette and Dutch, which is fine since they've generally been interesting characters.
Except when Duth strangled that cat, still a big WTF moment. I got a good laugh when all those cats were skulking around the slaughterhouse.
Good to see the show is as strong as ever.
The Experiment said:The actor's name who played Ronnie wasn't even put at the beginning of the episode with the others until the 5th season. Before that, he was put in with the special guests.
All I ask is for a brief return of Tavon. Even if he is just an extra walking around for a second, I'll take it.
shantyman said:Again, at first I said they were "basically" the same (meaning not EXACTLY) and then said I can see the differences, which i do not believe are as great as you do. How is that contradicting myself?
The basic event that occured was the same- a cop killing another cop for ratting them out (Shane thought Lem was ratting him out).
WickedAngel said:You need to work on your spin. I figured you'd try to use the "basically" cop-out.
I still can't fathom how you are trying to play these off as being similar. Cops were killed; that's the only similarity. One was a known rat. One was thought to be a rat. One was an outsider. One was a loyal friend that had saved them all at one point or another. One was actively trying to screw them; one was trying to take all the heat for himself to save the team. They weren't "basically" the same by any stretch of the imagination.
shantyman said:I can't fathom that you are getting so worked up about it. I'm not spinning anything- it's my opinion! Just as you have yours.
Sorry if my choice of words was poor. Enjoy The Shield Season 6 (I know I will).
Lonestar said:Enough with this Cop Killin stuff, let's have more of The Man:
Ronnie Gardocki's Myspace
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"I'm so good at this shit, I can handle this punk while daydreaming about The Master's at Augusta."
ColdBlooded33 said:Man... This episode has been awesome.
Odoul said:I liked Kavanaugh, doesn't help that they've racked up the dickhead level on Vic lately.
Ronnie obviously doesn't trust the rest of the ST. Can't wait for the shit to hit the fan, it's usually the 3rd or 4th ep where things start getting crazy.
Frog said:Anyone know if Whitaker is returning? Was that his final episode?
WickedAngel said:It looks like Vic is finally going full-on into purely criminal territory. At one time, nearly everything he did had some selfless good to it even if the means were twisted. Since the Money Train, nearly everything he's done has been for himself or the team. He's on a downward spiral into pure criminality.
Superb episode. I knew Kavanaugh was going to burn for that evidence and was glad to see it happen.
Lonestar said:Guys, there's only 8 more episodes this year!...
:/
WickedAngel said:I wonder if Kavanaugh confessed early to keep Amolia from getting rewarded for her information.
DevelopmentArrested said:One of the best hours of television ever.
Stoney Mason said:Jesus Christ, Forest Whitaker is god!