Oh that's interesting, I always just made sure to blow up the drums in Crysis haha. Will definitely try it out later!
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The small details in shooters matter.
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Oh that's interesting, I always just made sure to blow up the drums in Crysis haha. Will definitely try it out later!
That's how magazines worked in the Day of Defeat HL1 mod, as well.
Super Shotgun technically does
Also, the switch-mod animations are fantastic.
I thought it added a small layer of strategy that really made the gunfights more engaging. I wish more games would try it, even if it obviously wouldn't fit the overall design of games like Quantum Break and Uncharted.
Those are the two-color ones. Red ones just catch fire and explode.
Gun jamming in FC2 was made it interesting for me, because it got to the point where it was more fun to gamble with a near broken AK while fighting for your life because you have nothing else to use.
Never noticed that, sweet.
Love the Battlefield Easter egg ones. The extra hand one was hilarious.
Any reason to dig this up:
Although this is a cut-scene, I'd appreciate if shooters actually had this kind of long, realistic and complex reloads in-game, and maybe have them be more than just a button press. Make the actual gunplay a bit more involving. GeoW was kind of the right track with active reloading. There's this VR game/tech demo that has you actually doing things like physically removing magazines or cocking the hammer of a revolver, it's one of the neatest things I've sen in shooter. I don't remember the name.
SoundPulse
Banned
There's a few. First game I remember playing with it as a noted mechanic was Neotokyo, but that game's long dead.
This is what a dump pouch is for, but combat in the game was fast paced enough that you can forgive Neotokyo for it.
XxRampage07xX
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Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam had this feature iirc.
Reloading in Hardcore mode in BF4 (and maybe 3) causes you to lose the rounds left in the magazine you take out.
The Firearms mod for Half-life was one of the first I remember doing this. I think you kept half-empty mags to be used after you had gone through all of your full magazines.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I actually don't like this feature in games. No sane person would actually throw away an entire magazine of ammo.
However, I actually did like it in Advanced Warfare. You have the choice of a regular reload or tossing the entire magazine to load the gun faster. I actually wish more games would use this feature. I thought it was pretty damn cool.
ARMA definitely does that. I think all of the SOCOM games had that feature as well. It's definitely a cool tactical detail that I wouldn't mind seeing in more slower paced games.
Swat 4 is the only game I can think off where you actually had a limited amount of magazines and were the player was just switching between all of them. Basically If you reload early you'd put that half full magazine back in your pouch and eventually use it when the other magazines were gone
Garrett Hawke
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Lol Wat @ the QB animation. The game is all about high fidelity graphics and performance capture. How did that happen?
You've spent how long making this game, ship it soon. We spent so long deciding what outfit he should wear and let's do Iceman now. Can we spare the cycles to fit in more detail or will we need to go to 600p.
Slamtastic
Member
While people are shitting on quantum break in this thread for the reload animations, which are admittedly bad, it does plenty of other things with physics that make the world feel great to move about in. For example, and I am sure someone else could provide a gif, but if you bump into a chair that is on wheels it actually just pushes the chair on its wheels rather than flipping over like you hit it with a bull. Lots of things feel properly weighty in the game in a way that most other games fail to emulate.
Care to share which ones besides the reload animations?
I don't recall what the base ammo count for that specific weapon is, but you can upgrade ammo capacity of guns, the animation and gun models don't change.
Given that it's a revolver tho, it would be weird if 3 was the default ammo count.
Good god what's this game?
Overwatch.
someone made a compilation of all reloads with the characters looking straight up, hence his guns falling down like that.
That's Reaper BTW.
It looks cool because he is aiming to the air, but what he really does is discard the weapons to the ground, and magically pull a new pair out of his ass
Princess Carl
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fixd
What's the difference?
Shamelessly stolen from this guide from Red Orchestra 2 (also not a reload animation but a small detail that's really cool):
Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm, Insurgency, Arma, and funnily enough, Helldivers. All of them except Helldivers use a magazine system - if you reload without finishing your magazine your partially filled magazine gets put back in your inventory. If you reload enough times, you'll eventually reach that partially-filled magazine again and use that.
Pan Magazine
The most distinctive feature of the DP-28 is its circular 47 round magazine, which is the butt of many jokes.
You'll notice at about the 6 o'clock position near the rear sight there's a ring. This is the DP's fabled ammo counter, and is accurately modeled in-game. As you fire your DP-28, you'll notice the ring will move clockwise. This means the spring within the magazine is loading new rounds into the weapon and informs you of approximately how many rounds you have left. This is extremely useful as it allows a player to know their ammo count at a quick glance without having to hold the R key and perform a mag check. I believe this is the biggest saving grace of the DP-28.
Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm, Insurgency, Arma, and funnily enough, Helldivers. All of them except Helldivers use a magazine system - if you reload without finishing your magazine your partially filled magazine gets put back in your inventory. If you reload enough times, you'll eventually reach that partially-filled magazine again and use that.
supernormal
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Is no one going to post how Max Payne actually holds a shotgun between his elbow and his waist so he can juggle reloading his handgun while he has a shotgun equipped in his other hand. Max Payne 3 has some of the best attention to detail in this regard.
Noisepurge
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Gotta balance fun and realism. Would get really tedious in fast action games.
QB was great but man those reload animations were disappointing, especially coming from Remedy in 2016.
Alan Wake's weren't all that impressive either, but all of the guns in that game had to be loaded bullet by bullet, and it also had that neat little "tap to reload faster" mechanic.
Alan Wake's weren't all that impressive either, but all of the guns in that game had to be loaded bullet by bullet, and it also had that neat little "tap to reload faster" mechanic.
LiveFromKyoto
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Any reason to dig this up:
Most criminally under-appreciated game of the generation.
Necron
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The sniper rifle reload is also GOAT.
Blew my mind when I saw that reload animation on the PS2 version back then... I need to play RE4 again.
I am super annoyed by this crap.
Its like a magicians sleight of hand magic trick..."and just like that the gun is reloaded!"
Lys Skygge
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Isn't Quantum Break also missing bullet casings when shooting?
Slowing down reloads would add more value to smaller weapons such as pistols.
eot
Banned
There's a few. First game I remember playing with it as a noted mechanic was Neotokyo, but that game's long dead.
This is what a dump pouch is for, but combat in the game was fast paced enough that you can forgive Neotokyo for it.
I think the first shooter to do it was Rainbow Six but it's been so long since I played it so now I'm not sure. There was also the Infiltration mod for Unreal Tournament which might actually have the most realistic weapon mechanics, even today. That game even had weapon collision with the environment, so using a long rifle indoors was a hassle because it'd bump into stuff.
I really liked this game too. It was nothing ground breaking, but the fundamentals were solid and it was enjoyable throughout. It's also the best looking game I've seen.
There's a few. First game I remember playing with it as a noted mechanic was Neotokyo, but that game's long dead.
This is what a dump pouch is for, but combat in the game was fast paced enough that you can forgive Neotokyo for it.
This is what I want out of every shooter. OMG, I want more realism.
Have you heard of Receiver, OP?
the shooting itself is pretty shallow- only 2 enemy types - but it has a ton of nifty gun handling mechanics. for example you can find loose ammo on the floor and you have to load them into a magazine, you can rack the slide partway back to check if there's a round in the chamber, you have to disengage the slide catch after you reload, stuff like that.
with a revolver, you can load rounds into whichever chamber you want, and spin the cylinder around.
i keep hoping they'll put stuff like that in big-name shooters, but there's probably not enough desire for it.
the shooting itself is pretty shallow- only 2 enemy types - but it has a ton of nifty gun handling mechanics. for example you can find loose ammo on the floor and you have to load them into a magazine, you can rack the slide partway back to check if there's a round in the chamber, you have to disengage the slide catch after you reload, stuff like that.
with a revolver, you can load rounds into whichever chamber you want, and spin the cylinder around.
i keep hoping they'll put stuff like that in big-name shooters, but there's probably not enough desire for it.
Any reason to dig this up:
This is beautiful!!
I'm not trying to be excessively nit-picky but something that just kind of stood out to me after watching it loop is that it looks like the bolt is chambering two rounds instead of one in what seems to be a pretty standard bolt action rifle (I've not played the game).
abracadaver
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YES!
I was just about to mention it.
I hate when a game ignores details like this. All the max payne games had bullet casings.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Far Cry Blood Dragon
Absolutely one of my recent favorites. Also the ultimate is so great.
SoundPulse
Banned
RO2 (and Rising Storm) have a lot of passion put into making the weapons all function accurately. Still one of the few games I can think of that lets you do a brass check and makes you switch out your machine gun's barrel.
RO2 (Sound's a bit messed up)
Rising Storm