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The state of NeoGAF

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I for one appreciate the new incoming changes, the outside often saw overwhelming toxicity when they saw what was here at times.

I hope that thread derailing becomes less of an issue as we focus on the topic at hand, be it on gaming, movies, or pop music.

Long live reasonable discourse among good friends.
 
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I completely missed the events from Friday until Sunday afternoon and came back to a big mess... had to read up on the whole thing in different other sites and get some intel first before understanding what happened.

I had been a lurker, then a member on NEOGAF for over 10 years now, and it saddens me to see the site in the state it is now. all the exodus, the bans and abandons; the harsh, thou sometimes well warranted criticism; and most importantly, the (hopefully temporary) lost of OT. I met EL once before and in all honesty, I feel that he doesn’t seem like that kinda guy with the impression I got from him. but then again, I’m a guy meeting him in a public place with lots of other people, so who knows? I did read some of the older comments EL made and also some of the reports on what started this whole incident. EL definitely seems to be in the blame hereone way or the other, but I feel that people are a little too focus on that blame right now. like him or not he had done a lot for the community and this whole thing feels a little more like something that the 2 of them had already resolved and came to terms while the rest of the internet is just digging up new dirt on both of them and trying to stir up trouble. it is just my opinion after all but I’m not abandoning NEOGAF and I’ll still be around.

ps: and the mods have my full support right now. they have a very tough job and often being treated rather unfairly, especially in time of crisis.
 

PJV3

Member
There should definitely be some kind of independence for the forum in news relating to the ownership, seems a little unethical to run a Rumour mill but try to keep out of it.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Do you remember this post

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Listen is what I said. I don't have to like or talk with Tyler. That doesn't mean I have to leave my friends and communities here.

Nice try though.
 
Meanwhile every member who has been here for a decade making kick-ass OTs and putting in the effort to make this site awesome is leaving.

These Juniors think they're gonna make neogaf great again. GL

Anybody that made a “kick ass” OT is just a corporate shill. It’s by far one of the worst parts of GAF. It’s people actively advertising for corporations for free.

That MGS4 OT was one of the worst things in human history.
 
I can't wait til everyone complaining, doing 'funny' suicide threads and generally being idiots are banned.

Mod me, Evilore. I'll ban them a dozen at a time. So annoying.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
I've been here thru GAF's various incarnations since it's inception. I slowly started migrating more and more to the OT to the point where I was almost visiting and posting in the OT. I loved the liberal/progressive slant.

I've always suspected Amirox was a piece of shit and was uncomfortable with how he was treated with kid gloves and now this? I want to give the benefit of the doubt and say Evilore just misread the situation but banning political/social issues seems like a scapegoat for I don't know what exactly.
 
Qouting this for the new page.

Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
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Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
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You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
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Everyone that remains here truly need to ask themselves if they’re okay with this.
 
The conclusion would be I might be posting more once the newborn is here since I won't be playing games. But still read all day about games. Especially on commutes and work breaks.

I don't base my actions on recent happenings. I do however base my actions on how my life is.

It's just kind of interesting how you're a lurker who didn't see a reason to post until it came to offering words of encouragement to a sexual predator. "Thanks for all the hard work", seriously?
 

near

Gold Member
Gaf is bigger, which is why you should follow it to (hopefully) ResetEra.
The Gaf community is already gone.

Who came up with ResetEra? Who are the gaffers moving to this website you guys seem to be promoting? Is this some sort of joke I've missed out on? I mean it was funny at first, but now it's like an annoying pop up that won't close.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
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Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
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You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
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I hope you didn't get banned for this. This is why I am not giving EL the benefit of a doubt, he has used up all of his benefit of a doubts in my book.
 

Doukou

Member
Who came up with ResetEra? Who are the gaffers moving to this website you guys seem to be promoting? Is this some sort of joke I've missed out on? I mean it was funny at first, but now it's like an annoying pop up that won't close.

It’s made old by moderators/gaffers and hopefully (like I said) a majority of gaffers will move there.
 
Who came up with ResetEra? Who are the gaffers moving to this website you guys seem to be promoting? Is this some sort of joke I've missed out on? I mean it was funny at first, but now it's like an annoying pop up that won't close.

What part are you having trouble understanding?
 

Pilgrimm

Member
It's just kind of interesting how you're a lurker who didn't see a reason to post until it came to offering words of encouragement to a sexual predator. "Keep up the good work", seriously?

Keep up the good work was towards the community of neogaf. Not the site owner.


Simply because all the gaming related posts have been created by the community.

Might be that my post was hard to understand. English is my 2nd language after all.
 

Chariot

Member
Who came up with ResetEra? Who are the gaffers moving to this website you guys seem to be promoting? Is this some sort of joke I've missed out on? I mean it was funny at first, but now it's like an annoying pop up that won't close.
I don't know who came up with the name.

But Gaffers include ZhugeEx, Shinobi, nibel and a whole bunch of other well known Gaffers. There are a lot of them. I am sure you will see who's exactly in there when it opens up.
 

boo

Gold Member
OT was a disaster zone right before GAF was taken offline. Total shit show. It would probably be worse right now. Gaming at least resembled a little bit of gaming side.



I would counter that and claim you're being overly dramatic. I know you understand that members who will still participate here don't excuse sexual harassment. It's an easy blanket statement to make- owner of site does thing, people still participate, people are ok with thing. Problem is, a community is not a reflection or an extension of any one person. It's the sum of each individual who participates.

What's going on here is fairly rote when it comes to internet drama. People lose their minds on the internet at the drop of a hat, i.e. making their own site that mirrors the bad site but it's pure and wholesome without the bad person, only the bad people stayed, etc.

What I never understood about the most extreme people om the left in OT was that they never said: I may disagree with what you are saying, but I will defend with my life your right to say it. In other words, agree to disagree and still be friends, although with different viewpoints.

Instead the approach was: I am the perfect human being because I have all the correct viewpoints. You must mean exactly the same as me. If you disagree with me one percent, than you are one percent evil. If you disagree with me ten percent then you are ten percent evil. Because I have all the good values, so the more you think differently from me, the more evil you are.

There was never any respect towards anyone who did not think the same way as them. For instance, any republican was per definition a racist and a nazi. Thank goodness it is over now. Back to civilization we go.
 

NH Apache

Banned
Been here for more than a decade. Seeing what happened, gaslighting OT, and the "new" community and its vitriol - it's dead, Jim.

GAF has been a large chunk of my life and the friends I've made through the years have been amazing.

I can't in good conscious continue to give ad money to a narcissistic sexual predator. Everything that made this site great is gone now: the devout, socially conscious community, the industry moguls, and the delicious OT.

Of all the ways that this could have been handled...just wow. GL to all and see y'all on the other side.
 
What I never understood about the most extreme people om the left in OT was that they never said: I may disagree with what you are saying, but I will defend with my life your right to say it. In other words, agree to disagree and still be friends, although with different viewpoints.

Instead the approach was: I am the perfect human being because I have all the correct viewpoints. You must mean exactly the same as me. If you disagree with me one percent, than you are one percent evil. If you disagree with me ten percent then you are ten percent evil. Because I have all the good values, so the more you think differently from me, the more evil you are.

There was never any respect towards anyone who did not think the same way as them. For instance, any republican was per definition a racist and a nazi. Thank goodness it is over now. Back to civilization we go.

What viewpoints were those? Wanna share 'em with us?
 
Keep up the good work was towards the community of neogaf. Not the site owner.


Simply because all the gaming related posts have been created by the community.

Might be that my post was hard to understand. English is my 2nd language after all.

Well thats the kicker isn't it. It's the community that carried this place for so long, not the owner. Thats never occurred to the owner though.
 

Syder

Member
What I never understood about the most extreme people om the left in OT was that they never said: I may disagree with what you are saying, but I will defend with my life your right to say it. In other words, agree to disagree and still be friends, although with different viewpoints.

Instead the approach was: I am the perfect human being because I have all the correct viewpoints. You must mean exactly the same as me. If you disagree with me one percent, than you are one percent evil. If you disagree with me ten percent then you are ten percent evil. Because I have all the good values, so the more you think differently from me, the more evil you are.

There was never any respect towards anyone who did not think the same way as them. For instance, any republican was per definition a racist and a nazi. Thank goodness it is over now. Back to civilization we go.
Look at this disingenuous bullshit.

Let's just ignore Gaming side defending Pewdiepie, shall we?
 
In reaction to what is this shit? Is this serious?
This was jokingly, right. because if not.... then.. dammmn.

It’s really amazing to me people act like Evilore is some enigma that nobody has known before

He’s been posting cringey internet bravado bullshit and deleting/banning anyone who attacks him for years and years and years.
 

Kusagari

Member
In reaction to what is this shit? Is this serious?
This was jokingly, right? because if not.... then.. dammmn.

No. There was a legitimate thread where he went on a tirade about how he could beat Bruce Lee in a fight and multiple people got banned for calling his posts out for their absurdity.
 

near

Gold Member
I don't know who came up with the name.

But Gaffers include ZhugeEx, Shinobi, nibel and a whole bunch of other well known Gaffers. There are a lot of them. I am sure you will see who's exactly in there when it opens up.

I see. So it's an official thing then, I honestly thought it was a joke. Interesting.
 
It's really amazing to me people act like Evilore is some enigma that nobody has known before

He's been posting cringey internet bravado bullshit and deleting/banning anyone who attacks him for years and years and years.

There is a lot i haven't seen apparently. I was very late with finding out about Amirox being a pedophile for instance. And i'm on GAF almost daily. I know Tyler is pretty narcissistic but i don't think i've ever seen this one before. Again, was this a joke or is this real?
No. There was a legitimate thread where he went on a tirade about how he could beat Bruce Lee in a fight and multiple people got banned for calling his posts out for their absurdity.

Bruce Lee?!!! HAHAHAHA... nah. Must have been a joke man. What the fuck does 8 inches mean in this context then? Or did he want to fuck Bruce Lee? or just height difference?
 

silenttwn

Member
Been coming here a long time. Don't post much. No one probably recognizes my screen name.

I wasn't aware of Tyler's past, just the news that came out over the weekend. Because of the ethos of the mods in this community I assumed the owner of NeoGAF was a decent enough human. What a revelation this past weekend's news has given me!

I cannot in good conscience be a part of this community while Tyler Malka is the owner. It's going to be weird not coming here on my lunch breaks.

Bye!
 

Chariot

Member
I see. So it's an official thing then, I honestly thought it was a joke. Interesting.
No, it's real. It of course remains to be seen if ResetEra will hold up. But it's an option if you want at least a bit back into part of the community that made NeoGAF.
 

emgeejay

Member
RPGCrazied said:
And if you don't want to give him money use ad block, don't fuck over the innocent people here with no where to go.

Buddy, they're leaving because they don't want to stay. Poor innocent forum users are free to stick around if they choose, but everyone posting a BanMe has already weighed their own personal calculus on this situation, and they're not going to stay for your sake.

If GAF turns into a ghost town, as I suspect it will, you can find a new forum. Believe me -- this happens. Reddit was a lot more confusing than Digg, but we managed.
 

Malvolio

Member
This whole episode is right out of Trump's playbook. Feel free to yell about fake news until you're orange in the face, but just as with him, it's the cover-up that is revealing the truth.

I do not support your actions both in your private life and as the owner of this site.

Peace.
 
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