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The super duper pre-E3ton Wii / Revolution thread

If a THQ Spongebob game were to have blown Tommy Tallarico away, the better content would give normal people heart attacks.

Krowley said:
edit// twisting for a steering wheel sucks because you can turn your wrist much more easily in one direction than the other
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No resistance is true, but as far as movement it sounded like something you'd hold with both hands. Otherwise there'd be no need to have it sideways to begin with.

Avutta1978 said:
the first person adeventure and racing game they will get, but unless someone is willing and crazy enought o bring a GTA clone to REV, it aint' happening.
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GameCube had a few. As long as the genre is popular, I imagine some publisher will want to cater to the audience.

Stopsign said:
Am I the only one who thinks that the Revmotes attach on Nunchuck thing could be like a second controller. So when you are duel-wielding some guns that the Nunchuck could be the left gun, and the regular controller could be the right. The screen would move with the either controller, depending on your preference. I think that would be the best move Nintendo could make. This would be a better solution than using two Revmotes.
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Other than allowing for four simultaneous players, how would that be better?
 
Krowley said:
i personaly don't like the sound of the
spongebob
game.... this is the type of gimmicky and uncreative software that many naysayers where predicting. Thank god there is red steel to ballance it out..... I'm sure there will be plenty of cool rev games revealed at E3, but the
spongebob
game sounds like ass.

edit// twisting for a steering wheel sucks because you can turn your wrist much more easily in one direction than the other, also there is no resistance. The flight stick thing sucks because of the lack of resistance.. The only thing that sounds sort of cool is bashing things with the controller, and that is pretty usless IMO.

also, i decided to put spoiler tags in too, so i would fit in :lol
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Why would it be any less "gimmicky" (good lord what an overused and meaningless word this has become, by the way) than children's games on current systems? I don't understand what your beef is. It's going to have sections with different gameplay, and the developers want to make the controller tie into those different types. That sounds like a fine idea for me, if I was a kid that would be totally awesome (it actually still sounds kind of appealing to be honest). Still, the game's quality is not going to be determined by things like that, it's going to be determined by the quality of the game. I have no idea if past SpongeBob games from THQ are any good, but I assume they haven't been; if that is indeed, the case, I think it's a far more relevant predictor of this game's quality.
 
I bet T.T. is going to get in a lot of trouble about this. He is probably breaking some sort of singed agreement, there is no good reason why he sloppily reveals it and no other online source has.



Lets keep this thread up, and hopefully a dev will see it and he will get busted.


I hate that fucker.
 
underfooter said:
I bet T.T. is going to get in a lot of trouble about this. He is probably breaking some sort of singed agreement, there is no good reason why he sloppily reveals it and no other online source has.



Lets keep this thread up, and hopefully a dev will see it and he will get busted.


I hate that fucker.
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I can't imagine who he'd get in trouble with, and what the consequences would be. He runs his own company, and if he currently has any contracts with publishers (not that he writes his own music these days anyway) I highly doubt anybody would break it off for something like this.

(I'm not a fan of the guy either, by the way.)
 
Chris Remo said:
Why would it be any less "gimmicky" (good lord what an overused and meaningless word this has become, by the way) than children's games on current systems? I don't understand what your beef is. It's going to have sections with different gameplay, and the developers want to make the controller tie into those different types. That sounds like a fine idea for me, if I was a kid that would be totally awesome (it actually still sounds kind of appealing to be honest). Still, the game's quality is not going to be determined by things like that, it's going to be determined by the quality of the game. I have no idea if past SpongeBob games from THQ are any good, but I assume they haven't been; if that is indeed, the case, I think it's a far more relevant predictor of this game's quality.
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If i'm not mistaken, there were some decent side scrolling spongebob games on some platform (not AAA, but 8.0 level) but i'm pretty sure most of them have been crappy (as you would probably expect).

i hate to use the word gimmicky... I agree it's been overused in terms of the revolution, it's just the first thing that came to mind for me. It sounds like this is a collection of mini games instead of a robust design that uses the revmote in an interesting way. it's just using it in the obvious ways and a lot of them don't sound all that fun to me.

My expierience growing up with the nes, and before that, Arcade games and atari ports of arcade games (which usually provided a tough challenge) makes it hard for me to appreciate the modern apporach to family friendly, easy, instant gratification "kids" games. When i was a kid, the games weren't like that, and i have a hard time imagining that i would have liked that kind of stuff (although i may have if it had been available)

Anyway, I don't mean to rag on this game. I'm not the target audience for it and i despise these kinds of games so much that i can't even be objective about it.. i'll be honest and say that it's very unlikley that THQ would ever do what i would require in order to enjoy a spongebob game and normaly i wouldn't even bother to comment on one... the only reason i felt compelled to do so is because we know so little about the revolution and i was disapointed to see that these kinds of games were still going to be pretty crap even with the revmote. I was hoping there might at least be some residual "fun factor" on a hand eye coordination level, but these mini games don't sound all that cool to me.
 
My 8 year old boy loves him some sponge bob.

the games they have released so far are some of the only games besides wario that he played start to finish and actually took the time to beat.


Sales +1
 
Krowley said:
My expierience growing up with the nes, and before that, Arcade games and atari ports of arcade games (which usually provided a tough challenge) makes it hard for me to appreciate the modern apporach to family friendly, easy, instant gratification "kids" games. When i was a kid, the games weren't like that, and i have a hard time imagining that i would have liked that kind of stuff (although i may have if it had been available)
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Yes, I agree with this bit. I wasn't indicating that kids' games should be a pushover, but that these days I don't expect them to be anything but. Hell, the games I played as a kid were generally harder than the ones I play now, when I go back and try them I'm surprised I had the patience at that age. In terms of the physical actions, I was thinking in terms of very young kids--kids have real physical toys that largely consist of "hit something and it makes a sound" or something like that, so I figured this might be analogous to that. That said, I could be drastically undershooting Spongebob's age demographic. I have never seen the show and I don't have the slightest clue what age group(s) it targets.

Anyway, I don't mean to rag on this game. I'm not the target audience for it and i despise these kinds of games so much that i can't even be objective about it.. i'll be honest and say that it's very unlikley that THQ would ever do what i would require in order to enjoy a spongebob game and normaly i wouldn't even bother to comment on one... the only reason i felt compelled to do so is because we know so little about the revolution and i was disapointed to see that these kinds of games were still going to be pretty crap even with the revmote. I was hoping there might at least be some residual "fun factor" on a hand eye coordination level, but these mini games don't sound all that cool to me.
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I still think you're jumping to way too many conclusions about how these different control methods will be implemented and what you'll be doing not just in terms of control but in terms of gameplay. I mean I'll agree with you that in the case of this particular game I highly doubt the designers will be doing it in a particularly imaginative way, but I don't think that's inherent to the general actions Tallarico described.

Imagine something like Beyond Good & Evil (though if you don't like that game this won't help). There are so many different things you're doing over the course of that game--fighting, racing in a hoverboat, playing air hockey, etc., etc.--and I could really get into actually using appropriate control methods for each general type of gameplay. It would seem almost a shame if at least some games didn't do that sort of thing, given how adaptable the Rev controller is.
 
In a Miyamoto interview from Nintendo Europe a few weeks ago, he said:
Miyamoto: “In the case of Revolution, there is going to be a lot of software that are so-called 'sequels' to the existing type of games, however what is going to be the most attractive point about Revolution is the other applications. These kind of applications are going to make Revolution something really important for any ordinary household; more specifically catering for each type of family member in the house.”
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I was intrigued by Miyamoto's use of the words 'applications' and 'each type of family member'. This started me thinking about what kind of games would appeal to these people.

I was reminded of this quote listening to the latest 4 color rebellion podcast, where they talk about how a Tea Ceremony game would work on Revolution.

We've seen the affect of Nintendogs and Brain Training, but taking this idea a step further, given the ease of use the revmote will bring, I can see so many more possibilities for games.

For example, I would love to play a gardening game, where I could tend and grow plants, and landscape a garden really appeals to me. The idea of not having any particular goal, in the end boss sense, but just something goes on through the seasons, with the ability to expand my plot, through maybe competitions. Simliar to Harvest Moon, but just a specific, elaborate, gardening game, I think it would be popular with a whole new audience.

I'm really looking forward to new stuff for Revolution.
 
Rocked said:
You can tell they had trouble thinking of what to say for the GameCube. :lol "We expanded the definition of gameplay"
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:lol :lol I noticed that as well...

Heh - at the end when they said... "So what is the definition of gaming? We can't tell you..." the first phrase that popped into my mind was "because we don't know."

:D
 
ziran said:
I was intrigued by Miyamoto's use of the words 'applications' and 'each type of family member'. This started me thinking about what kind of games would appeal to these people.
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Yeah, I find that quote interesting as well. And while you pointed out how this could lead to more "non-game" type things like Brain Training, Nintendogs, etc. with your gardening example, I think Nintendo probably meant even more than that. The original name for their hardware line was Famicom (Family Computer) and the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) which implies more than games to me. While they crawled into a "gaming-only" shell there for a while I do believe with the success of "non-games" and current/future plans to support industry standerd features (WiFi, USB, DVD, SD, etc.) that Nintendo would be more open to doing more than just games.

I'm hoping that Revolution will also have the following:
-external HDD access*
-SD multi-media capabilities
-Opera web browsing using the revmote (like the NDS uses the touch screen)
-DVD menu navigation using the revmote (like a DVD-ROM uses a PC mouse)

*this is pretty much confirmed
 
Sorry to bump this but there seems to be nowhere else to put Rev stuff.

“VIVA LA REVOLUTION

ANDY McNAMARA
EDITOR-IN-CHEF

First off, I can’t say how proud I am to present this issue to you all. Getting an opportunity to show the first Revolution game to the world is quite an honor. Nintendo normally saves these types of unveillings for its giant, worldwide press conferences, so I wanted to at least pass along my joy and excitement over the opportunity to bring you Ubisoft’s newest game, Red Steel.

But there are more important thing happening here than just a huge cover story. I think this shows that Nintendo is serious about this console generation. So much so that it’s changing the way it deals not only with us, but with its third parties as well. And this change is for the better.

I will admit, when Nintendo first showed the Revolution controller last year, I laughed out loud at the absurdity of the whole thing. I mean, come on. A tiny remote is a revolution? But I’m not too proud to eat my own words. Nintendo is on to something here. And if it can garner third-party support and truly change way games are played, this Revolution will do more than make Nintendo a lot more money for it to store in its vaults. It could change the very way all games are played now and forever.

A bold statement to be sure, but after spending some time with the Revolution and Katana, I can see how this thing could not only work, but blow-up and change the entire face of the video games industry.

I think everyone knows of the mindshare and power that PlayStation holds over the market and the industry, and that may not change with this next-generation of game machines. I know most people believed Sony’s biggest challenger would be Microsoft, myself inculded, but I think there might be more to Nintendo than meets the eye.

Nintendo has gone from a dark horse to a serious competitor in my mind, and I can’t wait to see how the rest of the world reacts to the Revolution.

Because like any revolution, it can either upend society as we know it, or be squashed under the power of the ruling class.

Enjoy the issue.

Cheers

Andy”
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Roders5 said:
Sorry to bump this but there seems to be nowhere else to put Rev stuff.
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He sounds like your typical Nintendo fanboy now :lol . I guess he must be discredited in some way now ;)

But really, I'm 100% hyped for this years E3. There's going to be so much going on that I think I'm going to be severely embarassed by the amount of time that I'll be sitting in front of my computer chatting away with other videogame addicts. Reading things like that from the editor of GI gives me a reason to think it won't be a complete waste of time :)
 
“VIVA LA REVOLUTION

ANDY McNAMARA
EDITOR-IN-CHEF

First off, I can’t say how proud I am to present this issue to you all. Getting an opportunity to show the first Revolution game to the world is quite an honor. Nintendo normally saves these types of unveillings for its giant, worldwide press conferences, so I wanted to at least pass along my joy and excitement over the opportunity to bring you Ubisoft’s newest game, Red Steel.

But there are more important thing happening here than just a huge cover story. I think this shows that Nintendo is serious about this console generation. So much so that it’s changing the way it deals not only with us, but with its third parties as well. And this change is for the better.

I will admit, when Nintendo first showed the Revolution controller last year, I laughed out loud at the absurdity of the whole thing. I mean, come on. A tiny remote is a revolution? But I’m not too proud to eat my own words. Nintendo is on to something here. And if it can garner third-party support and truly change way games are played, this Revolution will do more than make Nintendo a lot more money for it to store in its vaults. It could change the very way all games are played now and forever.

A bold statement to be sure, but after spending some time with the Revolution and Katana, I can see how this thing could not only work, but blow-up and change the entire face of the video games industry.

I think everyone knows of the mindshare and power that PlayStation holds over the market and the industry, and that may not change with this next-generation of game machines. I know most people believed Sony’s biggest challenger would be Microsoft, myself inculded, but I think there might be more to Nintendo than meets the eye.

Nintendo has gone from a dark horse to a serious competitor in my mind, and I can’t wait to see how the rest of the world reacts to the Revolution.

Because like any revolution, it can either upend society as we know it, or be squashed under the power of the ruling class.

Enjoy the issue.

Cheers

Andy”
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Sorry for my IGNorance but, I know I heard his name, but who is him?

BTW, the bombs ARE dropping... news from everywhere and 1 day before 20/4...
 
FYI, ToastyFrog says Nintendo has a DS-focused (possibly DS-only) media event tonight. If it isn't NDA'd to hell, I'm guessing that it'll be primarily about New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Training, and that game announcements will wait until E3. Still, it could be interesting.
 
Father_Brain said:
FYI, ToastyFrog says Nintendo has a DS-focused (possibly DS-only) media event tonight. If it isn't NDA'd to hell, I'm guessing that it'll be primarily about New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Training, and that game announcements will wait until E3. Still, it could be interesting.
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I just read that. Awesome.
 
Father_Brain said:
FYI, ToastyFrog says Nintendo has a DS-focused (possibly DS-only) media event tonight. If it isn't NDA'd to hell, I'm guessing that it'll be primarily about New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Training, and that game announcements will wait until E3. Still, it could be interesting.
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Cool. Wasn't Nintendo Power supposed to hit subscribers tomorrow with the "biggest scoop of the year so far", aka new Castlevania game? Hopefully we'll get some footage of that.
 
Father_Brain said:
FYI, ToastyFrog says Nintendo has a DS-focused (possibly DS-only) media event tonight. If it isn't NDA'd to hell, I'm guessing that it'll be primarily about New Super Mario Bros. and Brain Training, and that game announcements will wait until E3. Still, it could be interesting.
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cool.
 
Zerodoppler said:
Cool. Wasn't Nintendo Power supposed to hit subscribers tomorrow with the "biggest scoop of the year so far", aka new Castlevania game? Hopefully we'll get some footage of that.
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Hmm... I had forgotten about that. Sounds quite possible, actually.
 
That DS news tonight if it happens, better fucking be about NSBM and the next Castlevania.
 
miyamoto making some bold statements about Revolution in newest edge:

“-If we can send the right message to the customer then we will see people start to understand Nintendo.
For example, when it comes to Revolution we don’t call it a next-generation console. We call it a new-generation console. we want each household to have a Revolution console connected to their TV. If someone comes into your house and there isn’t a Revolution sitting comfortably next to the TV, we want them to argue, and say: ‘Oh! Why don’t you have a Revolution?’ That’s what we want to create. We want a brand new relationship between people and their TVs through the Revolution. And when we achieve that then people will understand what Nintendo is now and what it always has been”


Magazine scan - Edge
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source
 
I knew they were gonna drive the "new generation" speil. You heard Miyamoto N-FAN's we must all question why others don't have the system.

Execute Nintendo protocal #66:
Rabbid-Fanatical-State

"GAWD, why don't you have a Revolution!?!?!?"
"'cos it's not out ye..."
"YOU CALL THAT AN EXCUSE??!!?"
"uhhh..."
"GET IT, join the hive, BELIEVE!"
 
Oblivion said:
That DS news tonight if it happens, better fucking be about NSBM and the next Castlevania.
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I would laugh my ass off if it's 45 minutes of someone demonstrating Brain Training on stage. :lol
 
All these little tidbits make me more and more hyped about tomorrow and E3 , i can't wait............ the wait has been so damn long for the Revo games and footage.
I hope i the event tonight they announce the date of the DS lite, new US localizations for some Japanese games + new games please!!!
 
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