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THE WALKING DEAD: Season 1 on AMC (avoid comic book spoilers)

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WorriedCitizen said:
I don't even know what you're talking about. How would it seem dragged out and artificial if he finds them at the end of a short 6 episode series? Would be perfectly reasonable to have him fight for survival alone that long (with the occasional help of other survivors).

Then make season 2 about them travel to some destination. Cut out all the corny crap, instead make them really desperate and miserable people who have fight for daily survival their main priority. The same kind of cheesy relation crap that we see in any non post apocalyptic show anyway should have no place in this.

Ok, ok, I get you now. You want them to make a new zombie show, not one based on The Walking Dead comic book series. I can tell you right now, the show will never be any better for you, as it gets more and more talky and focuses on relationships as the comics progress. EDIT: Unless, of course, they totally throw away the comic story.

BTW, I think you'd REALLY like J. L. Bourne's Day by Day Armageddon novels, it's a journal of one military man surviving in the zombie apoc. He joins up with fellow survivors as they go on, but they are rarely the main focus.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
its not infidelity if your husband is dead! And she couldn't very well call the authorities and ask if any bodies had turned up that match her husbands description. In that new world of zombies, a statement from his best friend would be enough to go on.

also, no question on why Lori is a big slut.

She thought he was dead- so she sexed up another guy.

Turns out, he's alive, which means she actually committed infidelity unknowingly. It's still infidelity (how do you tell Rick "So i banged your best friend but its ok, cause I thought you were dead, not wondering around a hellish zombie wasteland doing everything you could to find me")
 
Nappuccino said:
She thought he was dead- so she sexed up another guy.

Turns out, he's alive, which means she actually committed infidelity unknowingly. It's still infidelity (how do you tell Rick "So i banged your best friend but its ok, cause I thought you were dead, not wondering around a hellish zombie wasteland doing everything you could to find me")


Its a technicality and nothing more. She didn't do anything wrong. But its going to be a shitty time for all of them regardless.
 
I'm just saying, if I was dead and zombie apocalypse is going on and my best friend didn't take care of my family. I would be disappoint.
 
g35twinturbo said:
I'm just saying, if I was dead and zombie apocalypse is going on and my best friend didn't take care of my family. I would be disappoint.

Yeah, frankly I don't think Rick would have been bothered about Shane lying about it. Bumping uglies with Lori though? That he'd probably have an issue with. I do think Lori should get Rick alone sometime and come clean and explain what happened. It'll hurt, but I think Rick can forgive her, given she thought he was dead. I don't think he would forgive Shane though.

Of course, I doubt that this would ever happen soooo.....
 
I don't know why people are complaining so much that there are a couple of back water hicks that have survived a zombie apocalypse. These are people that probably lived in a lowly populated area and obviously have a history of using firearms/hunting.
 
WorriedCitizen said:
First two episodes were awesome, third one was not. My complaint is legit.

Also don't tell me that was a good story. It was generic love trash.

The third episode was much better than the second. I was complaining to my friend yesterday that I didn't want the show to devolve into a cheap action/gore fest and I thought they did a good job of bringing the show back to reality.
 
jred2k said:
I don't know why people are complaining so much that there are a couple of back water hicks that have survived a zombie apocalypse. These are people that probably lived in a lowly populated area and obviously have a history of using firearms/hunting.
But there's two of them and it's statistically impossible that both survived!
 
jred2k said:
I don't know why people are complaining so much that there are a couple of back water hicks that have survived a zombie apocalypse. These are people that probably lived in a lowly populated area and obviously have a history of using firearms/hunting.


well, most likely the backwater hicks are the ones that will most likely survive longer than most city dwellers thats for sure.
 
I love the show so far, AMC makes shows that I can't help but obsess over. I've never been a huge zombie guy so it's nice that the show isn't just a zombie kill montage.
 
I'm loving the pacing. A bit too melodramatic in places, perhaps, but I feel a strong bond with the characters already. I think the slow pace is definitely going to have an explosive pay-off.
 
I didn't feel that Rick and Lori had any real chemistry together. When they were sleeping and getting it on 10 feet from their son I'm thinking "I'm sure the director wanted me to feel something here...but nothing. I don't care about their relationship."
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
I didn't feel that Rick and Lori had any real chemistry together. When they were sleeping and getting it on 10 feet from their son I'm thinking "I'm sure the director wanted me to feel something here...but nothing. I don't care about their relationship."


I think it may be deliberate. They seemed to have serious issues before the apocalypse, and for all we know, maybe Lori was already cheating on him then. You can see in her eyes that she's both touched (photo album, etc) and uncomfortable. That's a bad mix; hence little chemistry.
 
Just watched the third episode, and it was pretty good. Not too fond of some of the actors, parts of the dialogue and the awful sound effects (like when they beat the forest zombie :lol ), but the depicted events are great and suspenseful.
 
Sharp said:
Lost has had some of the best ratings on network TV over the last few years... 2.5 to 3 times higher IIRC.
3 times higher than Walking Dead? No way.

It was barely more than double for the last couple seasons.
 
LocoMrPollock said:
It's actually a pretty cool concept, if done right. It would have to be a pretty interesting zombie, though.
Zombies are only driven by hunger, have no personality or emotions whatsoever, don't really think and just follow their instinct, and are damn slow.
A whole one-hour episode following one zombie would start dragging very quickly. Several different scenes, on the other hand, would probably work much better imho.
 
Jocchan said:
Zombies are only driven by hunger, have no personality or emotions whatsoever, don't really think and just follow their instinct, and are damn slow.
A whole one-hour episode following one zombie would start dragging very quickly. Several different scenes, on the other hand, would probably work much better imho.

I think this concept would work assuming he was chasing some of the human characters in the show. I'm thinking they would need to pull out some star power. First person to come to mind? Gary Cole...
 
Jocchan said:
Zombies are only driven by hunger, have no personality or emotions whatsoever, don't really think and just follow their instinct, and are damn slow.
A whole one-hour episode following one zombie would start dragging very quickly. Several different scenes, on the other hand, would probably work much better imho.


How about we follow a zombie who has happened upon a family barricaded in a house. He starts pounding on the doors and windows. Soon the noise attracts more and more zombies and before long there's a whole horde pounding on the reinforced doors and windows.

The family can't hold them back and our once lone zombie, his hands beaten down to bloody and bony stumps finally breaches the door.

As all the other zombies start streaming in and attacking the defenders of the house, we follow our zombie friend as he slowly shuffles his way up the stairs and finds a little girl hiding in the corner.

As the zombie approaches the girl, she stands up holding a fireplace poker in her trembling hands. She swings, and misses as our zombie lunges and pins her down and goes for the kill. But the zombie didn't see her little brother hiding in the other corner, and he also didn't see the hatchet in his hand, or the blade as it swung down and bit into the back of his exposed skull.

The last thing the zombie sees are the two children climbing out the window, while their parents are being devoured downstairs.

Maybe something like that? To lengthen it out, it could also start with the zombie as he was turned and how he died.
 
gdt5016 said:
The October '11 start date just confirmed it :/. Ah well.

Man, that sucks. :( I expect the second season will be much better than the first, they'll likely branch and we'll get to know the other characters a lot more than than we do. There's not a whole lot you can do with such a big cast in 6 episodes. This long wait will hurt the show, especially if this season doesn't end fantastically.
 
SmokingBarrelX said:
I think this concept would work assuming he was chasing some of the human characters in the show. I'm thinking they would need to pull out some star power. First person to come to mind? Gary Cole...
Good luck chasing human characters with a zombie's reduced mobility :p

LocoMrPollock said:
How about we follow a zombie who has happened upon a family barricaded in a house. He starts pounding on the doors and windows. Soon the noise attracts more and more zombies and before long there's a whole horde pounding on the reinforced doors and windows.

The family can't hold them back and our once lone zombie, his hands beaten down to bloody and bony stumps finally breaches the door.

As all the other zombies start streaming in and attacking the defenders of the house, we follow our zombie friend as he slowly shuffles his way up the stairs and finds a little girl hiding in the corner.

As the zombie approaches the girl, she stands up holding a fireplace poker in her trembling hands. She swings, and misses as our zombie lunges and pins her down and goes for the kill. But the zombie didn't see her little brother hiding in the other corner, and he also didn't see the hatchet in his hand, or the blade as it swung down and bit into the back of his exposed skull.

The last thing the zombie sees are the two children climbing out the window, while their parents are being devoured downstairs.

Maybe something like that? To lengthen it out, it could also start with the zombie as he was turned and how he died.
Yeah, something like this might be doable... but it wouldn't be nearly remotely enough for a whole episode (which is what I was arguing in the first place). Unless the character was important somehow for the plot/characters before dying (and the episode focuses mostly on him, not his zombie version, through flashbacks), it would be a huge waste of screen time. A zombie's life is as uninteresting as it gets.

Don't get me wrong, I believe the idea might be cool in theory (you follow this zombie, see flashbacks of his former life, see the zombie react to something related to said former life proving how slight traces of their memories still remain, then he meets main characters and tries to omnomnom them, gets hurt/killed/whatever, etc.), but in practice I really doubt anyone would want to watch it for more than 5-10 minutes tops.
 
WorriedCitizen said:
They should get rid of that love story completely. I don't care if it was in the comics. The last thing i want is to see this promising show evolve into another crappy Jericho type drama.


True, but were not quite there yet.


I'm liking it a lot up until now. It's fun to see Lincoln in something new after 'Teachers'.
 
This zombie idea could work in a few different ways. Mostly as an opening scene. Following a zombie for a few minutes, doing what it does, right before it runs into one of our characters. That doesn't hold for an entire episode.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
I didn't feel that Rick and Lori had any real chemistry together. When they were sleeping and getting it on 10 feet from their son I'm thinking "I'm sure the director wanted me to feel something here...but nothing. I don't care about their relationship."

That's exactly how I felt about the comics' version of their relationship, so I guess the show is staying true to the original material. :D

I don't know what to think about the show yet, frankly. The first episode was pretty great, the following two not so much. I have no issue with the pacing, the writing and the acting however ...
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
I didn't feel that Rick and Lori had any real chemistry together. When they were sleeping and getting it on 10 feet from their son I'm thinking "I'm sure the director wanted me to feel something here...but nothing. I don't care about their relationship."
I don't think they expected that. I think it was meant to be awkward (for Lori at least which we know what she knows) since they were aware of the problems and Lori was still confused and guilty. Sex was just the expected thing to happen when you haven't seen your hubby in a month - much less thinking he was dead.

Also, I'm still having some doubts about the relationship. I keep forgetting about the flirting with the sister at the mall. One thing that might be cleared up is the idea that you can actually fix a marriage that was broken while in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. It's tough enough when things are normal.
 
Oh god do you know how awful it feels to post something like that thinking "I put so many idiotic spelling errors in here, there's no way anyone will take my sarcastic suggestion seriously or find it funny" only to have it start an actual discussion?
I know there are people that stupid on the internet in places, but I don't think they have the mental capacity to change the channel to AMC and watch this show.
 
big ander said:
I know there are people that stupid on the internet in places, but I don't think they have the mental capacity to change the channel to AMC and watch this show.
This very thread proves you wrong. Glad to see it was intentional, though ;p
 
big ander said:
Oh god do you know how awful it feels to post something like that thinking "I put so many idiotic spelling errors in here, there's no way anyone will take my sarcastic suggestion seriously or find it funny" only to have it start an actual discussion?


Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not an original idea or concept. That is probably why it generated some discussion. So you can rest easy, none of us care about your poor attempt at sarcasm.






I know there are people that stupid on the internet in places, but I don't think they have the mental capacity to change the channel to AMC and watch this show.

Irony.
 
LocoMrPollock said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not an original idea or concept. That is probably why it generated some discussion. So you can rest easy, none of us care about your poor attempt at sarcasm.








Irony.
:lol
I wasn't saying the idea was original. I was saying it was intentionally stupid.
I didn't say you cared either, I said it was more than a little ridiculous that it generated that much discussion.

I also don't give a fuck what some person on the internet, who I have zero knowledge of and (now less than) basic respect for, says about my intelligence. I'm more than content with where I'm at in my education and I don't need your validation to feel confident.

I also don't need to get into a battle in a television thread on a video game message board to feel good about myself. So whatever you were looking for when you made that post, you're not going to get it from me.
 
Technosteve said:
fucking itunes why release it to season pass holders a day after it's on your service?

It seems like I get charged a few hours after it airs on the west coast and then it downloads automatically to my computer the next day for Amazon.
 
Technosteve said:
fucking itunes why release it to season pass holders a day after it's on your service?
That's weird, they hold it back for Season Pass holders but you can buy it regularly before that? Glad the only season pass stuff I do is Amazon VOD. It just e-mails me when an episode is available and I stream it on their site.
EDIT: So basically what the above poster said.
 
big ander said:
:lol
I wasn't saying the idea was original. I was saying it was intentionally stupid.
I didn't say you cared either, I said it was more than a little ridiculous that it generated that much discussion.

I also don't give a fuck what some person on the internet, who I have zero knowledge of and (now less than) basic respect for, says about my intelligence. I'm more than content with where I'm at in my education and I don't need your validation to feel confident.

I also don't need to get into a battle in a television thread on a video game message board to feel good about myself. So whatever you were looking for when you made that post, you're not going to get it from me.



OK...
 
Technosteve said:
i'm going amazon next season, can i stream amazon stuff to my xbox or is that also drm'd out the ass too?

You can only use Amazon's proprietary player unless you have a program to remove DRM. Just get a HTPC. Probably more useful in the long run than a 360
 
Technosteve said:
i looked on amazon and i can stream it to my xbox, sweet i can watch it on my big screen tv next season :D :D
What? How? I'd love to know, I have Breaking Bad Season 3 and Todd Margaret on there and it's a hassle to watch them on my laptop.
 
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