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THE WALKING DEAD: Season 1 on AMC (avoid comic book spoilers)

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Jamesfrom818 said:
Confirmation. Shane is a dick.
He lied to his best friend's wife that his friend was dead and the fucked her for a month (two months)
and you're just now thinking he's a dick.
 
Nappuccino said:
...you needed confirmation?

There was a sliver of a chance that he was trying to do the best thing for Lori and Carl when he told them Rick was dead. If my friend was in a coma in a hospital that just got overrun by walkers, I'd assume he was dead too. I didn't agree with the viewpoint that Shane is a victim of unfortunate circumstances but I could see it. Now, there's no excuse.
 
Nappuccino said:
Eh... the lack of flash backs and actively being interesting means this show isn't much like lost at all.

(one of those is an overt joke... the other is not :lol )
Yea, it is a joke to say this series has been as interesting as Lost so far.
 
wenis said:
Kinda pissed about the direction....meh.

I think they're just doing it so they get a great finale due to the 6 episode order. I wouldn't be surprised if, shortly after the next season begins they start to follow the comics more closely.
 
Nappuccino said:
I think they're just doing it so they get a great finale due to the 6 episode order. I wouldn't be surprised if, shortly after the next season begins they start to follow the comics more closely.

I hope so... joke spoiler
the characters are getting too happy too quick...I demand blood and depression from this show weekly
 
big ander said:
Yeah, Andrea/Amy was done better in the comics. Waaayyy drawn out.
And Jim's a little different from his comic counterpart.
Goodish episode so far though.

I actually appreciate how drawn out it was. Great suspense, even for someone who read the comics.
 
Helmholtz said:
How come no one calls them 'zombies'? Is this universe one in which the term 'zombie' doesn't exist?

It's a stupid thing a lot of zombie media does. Its so refreshing in Left 4 Dead and World War Z, where they are just like, "Yup those are fucking zombies."
 
Helmholtz said:
How come no one calls them 'zombies'? Is this universe one in which the term 'zombie' doesn't exist?

Ed: Any zombies out there?
Shaun: Don't say that!
Ed: What?
Shaun: That!
Ed: What?
Shaun: The zed-word. Don't say it!
Ed: Why not?
Shaun: Because it's ridiculous!
Ed: Alright...
 
Calling them zombies gives the whole production a bit of a fourth wall breaking attitude. Like, if they know what zombies are, then the characters know of zombie media and then it just becomes a referential rabbit hole.
 
Helmholtz said:
Good episode. Is Daryl anyone else's favorite character? :lol Guy knows how to survive.

Daryl is a cool character. I was telling my wife that whilst watching tonight, though honestly he's so impulsive and hot-tempered that for a larger group he's likely to be a liability.

Rick, so far, is like the worst survival horror hero ever. Just throwing guns and ammo away. Worse, frequently committing lots of resources into cockamamie, risky plans with little chance of reward.
 
WickedAngel said:
FFS, can we get one scientist in pop culture that doesn't make an obvious, horrible mistake?
No. You are all socially-awkward and callous weirdos that flip out at the slightest hint of pressure.
 
JayDubya said:
Daryl is a cool character. I was telling my wife that whilst watching tonight, though honestly he's so impulsive and hot-tempered that for a larger group he's likely to be a liability.

Rick, so far, is like the worst survival horror hero ever. Just throwing guns and ammo away. Worse, frequently committing lots of resources into cockamamie, risky plans with little chance of reward.

A by the book survivor guy would be boring for me. I like that he meets those guys at the retirement home halfway & gives them some guns. I like that he wants to save people, and tries hard to meet his promises to others.

He makes the show for me.

I love this damn show, only one I actually care to watch in it's premiere timeslot.
 
So, this show is officially nothing like the comic, at this point. Probably not much reason to fear comic spoilers anymore. :lol
 
MaddenNFL64 said:
A by the book survivor guy would be boring for me. I like that he meets those guys at the retirement home halfway & gives them some guns. I like that he wants to save people, and tries hard to meet his promises to others.

He makes the show for me.

Oh don't get me wrong, I respect the personal integrity element of the character; I like honorable protector types. I just think he frequently goes beyond that into the realm of doing very stupid things. Now granted, he has Plot Armor, but it shouldn't feel like he knows he has said Plot Armor.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Calling them zombies gives the whole production a bit of a fourth wall breaking attitude. Like, if they know what zombies are, then the characters know of zombie media and then it just becomes a referential rabbit hole.

Yeah, I get how silly it is on the surface, but if you don't exclude *other* zombie media from a zombie universe, it can get fucking weird.
 
GDJustin said:
So, this show is officially nothing like the comic, at this point. Probably not much reason to fear comic spoilers anymore. :lol

No kidding. The show is so divergent that I don't really feel guilty about having read the comics anymore. Aside from a couple of very generalized story arcs and locales, nothing is alike.
 
JayDubya said:
Rick, so far, is like the worst survival horror hero ever. Just throwing guns and ammo away. Worse, frequently committing lots of resources into cockamamie, risky plans with little chance of reward.

Rick, especially at the same point in the comic, is so similar it's crazy. Good on the writers/Darabont/Lincoln.

Slight spoilers on Rick's growth.

As Rick gets more and more in touch with the world he now lives in, he changes, a lot. Can't wait to see that stuff get tackled in the show.
 
Well he may not die (yet), but his recklessness could kill his family, or friends.

I think it will have consequences, ya just not for him :lol.
 
Rick comes across as a guy who still hasnt fully grasped just how fucked up the world is post Zombie Apocalypse though is gradually coming to terms by getting it smacked into his head with each encounter

Dale is just doing his best to remain civilized in a now uncivilized world and he knows something is up with Shane big time now after the shotgun incident.
 
Finally caught up. Never read the comics and generally I hate zombie stuff, but I really like the show so far. I've noticed some clunky dialogue (like the fishing convo between the sisters) but overall the writing isn't bad. It's not Breaking Bad quality, but it's certainly no abortion either.

Definitely got some Lost vibes from this ep, and the show in general I guess lol

Question, I don't mind if this is spoiled: in the comic, do they encounter any more advanced zombies? Like ones capable of strategic thought, or some type of hybrid species that dominates the group?
 
PhoenixDark said:
Finally caught up. Never read the comics and generally I hate zombie stuff, but I really like the show so far. I've noticed some clunky dialogue (like the fishing convo between the sisters) but overall the writing isn't bad. It's not Breaking Bad quality, but it's certainly no abortion either.

Definitely got some Lost vibes from this ep, and the show in general I guess lol

Question, I don't mind if this is spoiled: in the comic, do they encounter any more advanced zombies? Like ones capable of strategic thought, or some type of hybrid species that dominates the group?
COMIC BOOK SPOILERS
I've only read up to issue72, but so far no. And I don't think they will.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Finally caught up. Never read the comics and generally I hate zombie stuff, but I really like the show so far. I've noticed some clunky dialogue (like the fishing convo between the sisters) but overall the writing isn't bad. It's not Breaking Bad quality, but it's certainly no abortion either.

Definitely got some Lost vibes from this ep, and the show in general I guess lol

Question, I don't mind if this is spoiled: in the comic, do they encounter any more advanced zombies? Like ones capable of strategic thought, or some type of hybrid species that dominates the group?

Nope. Nothing more than Walkers and Lurkers.

Though, we encounter a Herd, which is just a massive group of Zombies, that sort of exhibit a hive mind. Fucking terrifying that is, like a wave.

By hive mind I mean that one zombie notices something, another notices him noticing, and so on and so forth till the whole group is on your ass.
 
From the preview, it looked like
Andrea got infected somehow. Probably when she blew out Amy's brains. It looked like she was showering and trying to get her temperature down. I guess the scientist will have his new sample.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
From the preview, it looked like
Andrea got infected somehow. Probably when she blew out Amy's brains. It looked like she was showering and trying to get her temperature down. I guess the scientist will have his new sample.

i was thinking the same thing
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
From the preview, it looked like
Andrea got infected somehow. Probably when she blew out Amy's brains. It looked like she was showering and trying to get her temperature down. I guess the scientist will have his new sample.

It makes me wonder though.
Can you really only be infected with bites? In episode 2 they made it a point not to even let zombie guts touch their skin. No one was alarmed when she got her sister'sblood all over her hands and face.
 
Thoughts on last night's episode:

- Long Kiss Goodbye: Yeah, they should've shortened Andrea's whole bit with Amy. The pulling the gun on Ricks was especially extraneous and would have liked that section of the show tightened up a bit. Perhaps just having Lori with her, then Dale, and then her putting one in Amy. I don't think Andrea's infected though, but I do think it might be setting up that she just gets plain old sick, but researcher thinks he can get new sample from her.

- Camper Conflict: Oh, Shane. Really wanted to pull that trigger, didn't ya? And Dale's look after he lowered the gun was priceless. Shane laughed it off, but CLEARLY, Dale is suspicious and knew what he saw. Sets up coming around to bite Shane in the ass. I also like that Rick's decisions come back to roost on him, not just in other people's minds, but his own as well. Lori comes in with the accurate line that Rick is partially right for getting the guns, and Shane is partially right that losing people is too much of a price. It was awesome seeing Rick's reactions when getting to the CDC because he bet the ranch on there being something and though he was right, he went crazy trying to get some payoff for dragging everyone there. Last point, using the walkie-talkie as a prop for Rick to voice his concerns is great.

- Jimbo: REALLY wondered if that after everyone left, if Daryl was going to put one in Jim's head. Honestly, I wondered if that was what Jim wanted. But looking back on the scene, I think Daryl was giving him some late-earned respect for what he wanted, given that at first he wanted to bury a pick in his head. Not sure if this is the last of Jim, but I have loved his character, which initially looked like he was going to be some near-nameless castoff character.

- Ed: God-DAMN, those zombies went to town on his body. I've seen Golden Corral breakfast buffets on a Nascar morning less picked over than his corpse. Liked that Carol wanted to be the one to swing the pickaxe for both reasons. One, he was the father of my child and I loved him at one point. Two, he was a fucking rotten son of a bitch who deserved to die. First or second swing at most handled reason one, the subsequent swings were reason two.

- CDC: I was very concerned about this as I liked the comics avoidance of the overall 'What happened?' issue, but so far the show did beautifully. The lone researcher broadcasting reports to what looks like nobody was, as noted before, very much like 'The Stand'. Plus, from previews, it looks like they won't be staying long and that they don't know how it was caused or how to cure it. So at best, this guy can answer the scope and how it all came to pass. That's fine with me, as it will answer some pretty obvious questions that would be asked.

Overall: Agreed with the general consensus that this episode was the best since the pilot. The plot kept moving, but gave plenty of time for character development. The cast has gotten whittled down to most of our particulars it seems (never get too attached to any character it seems) and the writing is focusing more on them and their interactions. The Shane and Rick conflict is fleshing out beautifully and I'm looking forward to a couple of irrelevant but interesting answers about how things got this way next week.

Couple of last points:

1) Don't get the Andrea hate. Sure, she's not perfect and not as pretty as Amy, but I don't really find her risible or annoying.

2) Anyone else think Rick's note to Morgan at the ex-campsite will be picked up and followed... by Merle? He's kinda providing a path to follow, isn't he?
 
This week's episode sucked. It was just way too melodramatic. Also, firing a gun 2 inches from your ear will cause deafness and severe pain. I couldn't take it seriously after seeing that shit.
 
JoeBoy101 said:
1) Don't get the Andrea hate. Sure, she's not perfect and not as pretty as Amy, but I don't really find her risible or annoying.

BAWWW WE DON'T NEED WOMEN FEELING ISSUES IN OUR ZOMBIE TV SHOWS! (or something like that) I agree, I don't get the GAF bitching about her or her scenes. Generally, they set up for some "emotion" in the zombie apocalypse. She lost her sister one-day/on-the-day of her sister that she never was really there for until this happened's birthday. For fucks sake, who wouldn't be feeling guilty about that?

2) Anyone else think Rick's note to Morgan at the ex-campsite will be picked up and followed... by Merle? He's kinda providing a path to follow, isn't he?

Yes. But given how they've made Merle ambiguous at best, I doubt that'll happen until Season 3 or 4.

Anyway: CDC dude losing his samples because he spilled something is so :lol it hurts. Needed to be better paced and done. Unless they answer things really quickly, I'd like for them to stay here for a season just to go around Rick's "what was that helicopter?" vision/question and to see if "does the decomposing dead a month or two after the infection rise up again!?" happens.
 
Wolf Akela said:
It makes me wonder though.
Can you really only be infected with bites? In episode 2 they made it a point not to even let zombie guts touch their skin. No one was alarmed when she got her sister'sblood all over her hands and face.
Yeah, what the fuck was up with that. First they
can't touch the zombie guts at all, but now she's hugging the girl for hours with blood everywhere.
 
WickedAngel said:
No kidding. The show is so divergent that I don't really feel guilty about having read the comics anymore. Aside from a couple of very generalized story arcs and locales, nothing is alike.
Why would you feel guilty about reading the comics?
 
They were worried about getting it into their eyes or anything else that would allow the virus to get into your bloodstream. You can't get a virus by it just being on your skin... it has to make it into your body and into your blood.
 
I keep waiting for Merle to reappear, but it looks like it might not be this season. I'm surprised his brother left the camp site so easily. Doesn't he think his brother is still alive and trying to make his way back to camp?
 
LM4sure said:
I keep waiting for Merle to reappear, but it looks like it might not be this season. I'm surprised his brother left the camp site so easily. Doesn't he think his brother is still alive and trying to make his way back to camp?

i was thinking the same thing. when that other family was saying they werent coming i was expecting bow dude to speak up about his brother.
 
Wolf Akela said:
It makes me wonder though.
Can you really only be infected with bites? In episode 2 they made it a point not to even let zombie guts touch their skin. No one was alarmed when she got her sister'sblood all over her hands and face.

Suitcase Test said:
Yeah, what the fuck was up with that. First they
can't touch the zombie guts at all, but now she's hugging the girl for hours with blood everywhere.

You guys seem to be forgetting the episode in which they cover themselves in zombie guts...
 
vitaminwateryum said:
You guys seem to be forgetting the episode in which they cover themselves in zombie guts...
Well to be fair, they were wearing long coats of some sort and they were just being cautious.

My thoughts on the preview, recent CBS
They're all infected and the brain samples are from people that haven't been bit or triggered into zombie mode
 
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