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[Gibbo]

The church scene was cheesy as fuck. Let Fringe show you how it's done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WysXabdO6xI

 

[Eight Diagram Bat Fighter]

First post nails it again.

 

[pulga]

For fuck's sake people, there's a pretty damn GOOD reason why the zombie blood isn't infecting anyone

Spoiler

THEY'RE ALREADY INFECTED YOU IMPATIENT FUCKS

I agree, they're irresponsable as hell for letting the blood so near to them, but it's not as if they have a choice, it's kill or be eaten.

 

[Triple Oceans]

I think you're looking at it the wrong.

Sure, there are some one-shot "this show sucks" comments in here. But I think that most of the comments, even the negative ones, are valid criticisms of the show made by people who actually recognize the potential this show has and want it to succeed.

I know I'm one of those people. As undeniable as some of the flaws are, the show exhibits enough moments that hint at greatness that I'll definitely keep tuning in, for now. The writers just need to get their shit together. The premise has all the ingredients for a top-notch action-fantasy-drama, they just haven't gotten to recipe right yet.

And hell, even if they never do, I'll still appreciate the show for its ambition to be something a bit more than just another run-of-the-mill "SHIT ZOMBIES!! SHOOT!" fest.

I have to admit this post is pretty much spot on. The sky truly is the limit for this series if the writers will understand that they need to push the envelop more with the storyline and characters. I'm not so sure they understand that if they do this right, they could squeeze about six seasons out of The Walking Dead. Because if not, after the second season, people are gonna see that the show won't be worth watching anymore. Now granted we're only on the first episode of season two, but I don't really see anything to really look forward to. But I will commit to watch every episode in season 2 to give it a chance.

 

[Fry]

For fuck's sake people, there's a pretty damn GOOD reason why the zombie blood isn't infecting anyone

Spoiler

THEY'RE ALREADY INFECTED YOU IMPATIENT FUCKS

What do you mean?

 

[Cornballer]

Folks, once again: if you're going to discuss comic book content from later in the series (and it's probably best that you avoid doing that in this thread), please remember to use spoiler tags and label your spoilers as such.

 

[WickedAngel]

What do you mean?

*****Comic Book Spoilers*****

Spoiler

The disease doesn't turn the living into the dead. It turns the dead into the undead. The survivors in the show are probably already infected but they won't know until one of them dies in a normal way (IE, not from a zombie bite).

 

[BattleMonkey]

I have no real problem with the writing and the cliches, it's what I expect from zombie material and the comics were always like that as well, it's just a really strung out Romero flick basically, and I think lot of good is to come. The comics themselves were not even that well written and full of lots of awful monologues of Kirkmanness.

My main problem with the show is the bad direction going on all the time. Like the highway zombie "ambush" that was not spotted. I mean that is just sloppy directing, which could have been simple avoided by having the zombies coming out from the side from the forests where Daryl wouldn't have seen them, it would make more sense. Then stuff like the running away from the 2 zombies and hiding the kid? Ok after what we have seen, it would have made more sense if it was a small mob of zombies they were running/hiding from instead of just 2 that were so easy to dispatch.

The first season was also full of this where the on screen action just looked odd or made a person go wtf, when so much could have been fixed with simple directing approaches to the scene for them to make sense.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

For fuck's sake people, there's a pretty damn GOOD reason why the zombie blood isn't infecting anyone

Spoiler

THEY'RE ALREADY INFECTED YOU IMPATIENT FUCKS

I agree, they're irresponsable as hell for letting the blood so near to them, but it's not as if they have a choice, it's kill or be eaten.

If that's a comic book spoiler you just didn't label then I hope you get fucking banned.

 

[Fry]

*****Comic Book Spoilers*****

Spoiler

The disease doesn't turn the living into the dead. It turns the dead into the undead. The survivors in the show are probably already infected but they won't know until one of them dies in a normal way (IE, not from a zombie bite).

Oooh... I never read it, so I think it's best I keep it that way.

But thanks for explaining it for me.

 

[Slayven]

*****Comic Book Spoilers*****

Spoiler

The disease doesn't turn the living into the dead. It turns the dead into the undead. The survivors in the show are probably already infected but they won't know until one of them dies in a normal way (IE, not from a zombie bite).

I thought Kirkman never revealed the cause and didn't plan on it?

 

[Cornballer]

- The Walking Dead Season 2 Premiere is now available on Android phones via AMC's mobile app

 

[WickedAngel]

I thought Kirkman never revealed the cause and didn't plan on it?

He did say that and he probably won't, but that scenario has been repeated so often that it's the only real explanation that makes sense. Given what we've seen in the show, it seems to be holding true there too.

 

[Triple Oceans]

I have no real problem with the writing and the cliches, it's what I expect from zombie material and the comics were always like that as well, it's just a really strung out Romero flick basically, and I think lot of good is to come. The comics themselves were not even that well written and full of lots of awful monologues of Kirkmanness.

My main problem with the show is the bad direction going on all the time. Like the highway zombie "ambush" that was not spotted. I mean that is just sloppy directing, which could have been simple avoided by having the zombies coming out from the side from the forests where Daryl wouldn't have seen them, it would make more sense. Then stuff like the running away from the 2 zombies and hiding the kid? Ok after what we have seen, it would have made more sense if it was a small mob of zombies they were running/hiding from instead of just 2 that were so easy to dispatch.

The first season was also full of this where the on screen action just looked odd or made a person go wtf, when so much could have been fixed with simple directing approaches to the scene for them to make sense.

Very valid points. And this is why people are complaining about the potential of this show. I agree with your points I just hope things can turnaround and soon.

 

[Mudkips]

Premiere was pretty much unbearable.

They need to kill of basically everyone, including Dudly Do-Right.
Keep the old guy and the guy with the crossbow. They're the only useful people in the group.

If zombies eat, and digest, when and how do zombies poop? They don't have the dexterity for buttons, and zippers, and I haven't seen any of them with piss stains on their crotches or with little turdlettes falling out of their tattered pant legs as they shamble along.

 

[WyndhamPrice]

Premiere was pretty much unbearable.

They need to kill of basically everyone, including Dudly Do-Right.
Keep the old guy and the guy with the crossbow. They're the only useful people in the group.

If zombies eat, and digest, when and how do zombies poop? They don't have the dexterity for buttons, and zippers, and I haven't seen any of them with piss stains on their crotches or with little turdlettes falling out of their tattered pant legs as they shamble along.

The first mistake with any kind of zombie fiction is trying to reason out zombie physiology, it's like time travel: it just doesn't make sense, so don't even bother. They rise from the grave, stumble, moan, and eat flesh. That should be enough.

 

[snack]

Got caught up with the first season. Show's alright, Breaking Bad destroys this show imho.

But who doesn't love zombies? It's no surprise this show garners 3 times the viewers than Breaking Bad.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Why do people keep comparing the show to Breaking Bad? They have not a thing in a common, completely different genres.... just because of the channel?

 

[Discotheque]

Got caught up with the first season. Show's alright, Breaking Bad destroys this show imho.

But who doesn't love zombies? It's no surprise this show garners 3 times the viewers than Breaking Bad.

terrible comparison. Maybe you should watch Mad Men instead, there's actual competition there.

 

[snack]

Why do people keep comparing the show to Breaking Bad? They have not a thing in a common, completely different genres.... just because of the channel?

I'm just saying Breaking Bad deserves more views because it's a better show. That's my opinion.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I'm just saying Breaking Bad deserves more views because it's a better show. That's my opinion.

I imagine they draw in different demographics and styles of fanbases.

 

[Diprosalic]

well, after completely loving the show 3-4 episodes in, after the premiere i have to say: i'm out.

 

[suaveric]

Here something I've always wondered about zombie apocalypse situations: why not just find a place to bunker-up an wait for decomposition to take out the zombies? Once zombies have wasted away to just bones, they have no way to move about. Easy win for the survivors.

 

[snack]

I imagine they draw in different demographics and styles of fanbases.

Most definitely. I think it has a lot to do with the fan base. There's just something about zombies that people find intriguing.

 

[Triple Oceans]

well, after completely loving the show 3-4 episodes in, after the premiere i have to say: i'm out.

Really? I would say watch a couple more then decide. Any reason you would stop watching now?

 

[Puddles]

This show could be amazing if the writers weren't mostly idiots.

This is about as bad as the show could be with such an awesome premise to work with. But since the premise is admittedly awesome, the show is watchable.

 

[dave is ok]

Why do people keep comparing the show to Breaking Bad? They have not a thing in a common, completely different genres.... just because of the channel?

People compare all the AMC shows to eachother.

 

[Triple Oceans]

Here something I've always wondered about zombie apocalypse situations: why not just find a place to bunker-up an wait for decomposition to take out the zombies? Once zombies have wasted away to just bones, they have no way to move about. Easy win for the survivors.

Didn't you know? Logic + Zombies = No ratings/lack of interest

 

[JDSN]

The church scene was cheesy as fuck. Let Fringe show you how it's done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WysXabdO6xI

Hahahahaha

 

[BattleMonkey]

Here something I've always wondered about zombie apocalypse situations: why not just find a place to bunker-up an wait for decomposition to do take out the zombies? Once zombies have wasted away to just bones, they have no way to move about. Easy win for the survivors.

Would make for boring stories?

I think various zombie scenarios in other media have covered it before with various reasoning such as somehow they stop rotting, or in some cases they do rot away eventually.

Finding a place to bunker down is the main goal though and is what the ulitmate goal will be for the characters in the Walking Dead, but they have to find a safe place along with supplies for a group to survive long enough.

Safety from zombies wouldn't be that hard in many situations really, the hardest part is dealing with the basic needs of food and water.

 

[Diprosalic]

Really? I would say watch a couple more then decide. Any reason you would stop watching now?

show went downhill in second half of s1 imho, and now i hate every character and i wish they'd all die.

 

[xbhaskarx]

They should just explain to the zombies that there is no such thing as zombies and maybe the zombies will cease to exist.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Why do people keep comparing the show to Breaking Bad? They have not a thing in a common, completely different genres.... just because of the channel?

Breaking Bad has lots of action-horror elements in it. They're barely in different genres at all.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Breaking Bad deals a fuckton in suspense, dread, depression and despair.


I dunno what The Walking Dead deals with.

 

[tycoonheart]

The Walking Dead isn't even in Breaking Bad's ballpark.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

Breaking Bad deals a fuckton in suspense, dread, depression and despair.


I dunno what The Walking Dead deals with.

That's certainly what it's aiming for. A horror movie that you don't find scary is still a horror movie. Quality has nothing to do with genre.

 

[andycapps]

- The Walking Dead Season 2 Premiere is now available on Android phones via AMC's mobile app

YES! We get something first for once.

 

[anaron]

Herd scene aside, this episode was certainly an extension of season one in quality. I wish people like Ron Moore & co were handling this.

ETA: also, can the idiots on here refrain from generalizing specific members and their reactions as the entirety of gaf. That'd be swell.

 

[B_Rik_Schitthaus]

I don't get the Zombie gutting bit, how does gnashed up girl meat look any diffident then wild animal gnashed meat?

 

[WedgeX]

I don't get the Zombie gutting bit, how does gnashed up girl meat look any diffident then wild animal gnashed meat?

It looked like a woodchuck skull I believe.

 

[andycapps]

It looked like a woodchuck skull I believe.

This. Also, I assume you'd see some bits of human skin in there. No fur or woodchuck skulls.

 

[Pyrrhus]

I want so badly for this show to be better and smarter than it actually is...

 

[Puddles]

I want so badly for this show to be better and smarter than it actually is...

I think we all want that.

It feels like they only spend about a minute discussing whether a major plot point is a good idea or not before committing to it.

Whoever greenlit the nursing home episode from Season 1, for instance, should not be working in the entertainment industry, unless it's in catering.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Finally got to watch the episode...Good lord the horror movie cliches are just everywhere...

I feel bad because I LOL'd at the end. I mean the camerawork between the boy and the deer was just so serious. And people had the nerve to call Breaking Bad contrived...

The tensions of the herd scene was great, but as many pointed out, suddenly Walkers can't smell. That said, can't wait for the next episode. lol

BTW, is there a gif of the last scene? I loved the deer's "WTF is this kid doing/touch me face"

 

[Puddles]

Which cliches stood out to you?

I don't think the show really suffers from cliche too much, at least not compared to its other problems.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Which cliches stood out to you?

I don't think the show really suffers from cliche too much, at least not compared to its other problems.

2 guys keeping watch...Massive Herd pops up
Black Guy...get hurt first/possible death
Zombie walking out of RV...drop gun.
Church Bell ringing...just a timed electronic bell.


I understand this is all detraction to build the tension, but the execution is a bit shoddy. That said, I admire the show for being smart at times with the importance of stealth

 

[Kimosabae]

Sorry, one more post, bitching.


That deer scene was seriously one of the silliest things I'd ever seen. Apparently, during an apocalypse featuring flesh eating, dead humans; a deer's flightzone shrinks to about 5 feet. And stares, romantically at potential threats.

It was like a "love at first sight" scene from a romantic comedy or something.


Ugh.

 

[Enosh]

why the fuck were the zombies sitting in the church?
I mean, I would understand them standing there, they got in due to the bells or whatever, but why the fuck sitting, do zombies still go to church? Is there a fucking zombie society?
that scene made no fucking sense at all

otherwise as okayish, Daryl is still the only actual competent person in the whole group and I wanted to smack that wife with her "it's a graveyard" bullshit, you are in the middle of a god damned zombie apocalypse, if tomorrow they find out that digging up bodies from actual graveyards increases your survival chances by 0,1% you better run for the nearest shovel and start digging

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Then someone chooses to shoot it at that exact moment and the bullet just so happens to go straight through and hit the kid.

It was one of the most retarded things ever, easily.

 

[la flama blanca]

Sorry, one more post, bitching.


That deer scene was seriously one of the silliest things I'd ever seen. Apparently, during an apocalypse featuring flesh eating, dead humans; a deer's flightzone shrinks to about 5 feet. And stares, romantically at potential threats.

It was like a "love at first sight" scene from a romantic comedy or something.


Ugh.

Well, if they hand't of seen that deer, how would we know that god didn't answer the sheriff's prayers and how else would he obviously be lead down the path to meeting some new characters and eventually saving everyone? Right? RIGHT?


I agree....UGH.