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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC
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BattleMonkey
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Jubs said:
Eh, without Sophia storyline, it would essentially be the exact same storyline. The Hershell farm arc lasted quite a while. The comic was not better paced, people would be screaming if it was even more like the comic with the crazy amount of talking that went on between Rick and Hershell in the comic. So far they have been trying to make the Hershell arc more exciting it seems with the search and other shit going on.
AniHawk said:
Yeah, I think the intro worked because it was I thought a very plausible moment. A bunch of people from small towns and suburbs, confused about the escalating events of the previous weeks, all congregating on big cities where they hope to find some order. To then see the government basically nuke the city is such a great nihilistic moment. In that second you would fully see how bad it was, that society as you know it no longer existed. I would love to see an entire episode take place in the hours following that scene. Mass suicides on the freeway, a group of walkers come out of the woods, and for many on the freeway its probably their first encounter with them. Families are panicking, kids running into the woods, where you know they will never be seen again.
Shit, time to write a spec script, send it to Darabont.
Another awesome episode.
The show is a great mix of drama (and drama that makes me think) combined with cool zombie/post apocalypse moments (especially liked the city being napalmed scene).
I do hope there is more large scope/new world forging stuff but on the other hand I can see how that stuff can be hard to do while also spending so much time on building characters. I'll take the intensity the show offers over something that focuses more on big scope and high concept.
I find it easy to sympathize with most of the characters, there is a consistency to the characters and their actions that draws me in like a good drama should.
The show is a great mix of drama (and drama that makes me think) combined with cool zombie/post apocalypse moments (especially liked the city being napalmed scene).
I do hope there is more large scope/new world forging stuff but on the other hand I can see how that stuff can be hard to do while also spending so much time on building characters. I'll take the intensity the show offers over something that focuses more on big scope and high concept.
I find it easy to sympathize with most of the characters, there is a consistency to the characters and their actions that draws me in like a good drama should.
Dead Prince
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It's like Survival of the Dead. or i think it was from that episode. That or they boil and eat the walkers lulz.
BattleMonkey
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It's sad what they did to Andrea in the series.
Cornballer
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Reviews:
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AMC Content:
- Inside Episode 5
- Sneak Peek at Episode 6 (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Added:
- AMC Q&A - Norman Reedus (Daryl Dixon)
- EW.com: Writer Robert Kirkman talks about tonight's episode, 'Chupacabra'
sixteen-bit
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What did they do to her?BattleMonkey said:
-Pyromaniac-
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if you're referring to her in the comic and her on the show,BattleMonkey said:
they're obviously working towards her reaching that state, promo for next week cements it. They're just taking the long route.
Semi-spoilers, nothing specific. Wouldn't read if you're all out avoiding.
-Pyromaniac- said:
Agreed, I'm not sure if I agree with the plan, but they seem to be trying to make her as unlikable as possible and will then transition her into something completely different.
Comic book semi-spoilers ahoy.
There will be another badass coming either at the end of the season or at the beginning of Season 3 in a certain character named
in Michonne
-Pyromaniac-
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One would hope broooooooo, one would hope.
I like the fact that the show is being a bit different. Makes things more interesting for me, personally.
I like the fact that the show is being a bit different. Makes things more interesting for me, personally.
Pretty much this. After her little 'proving herself' moment this episode, how could you ever trust her to do the right thing again. Someone else in the thread listed the myriad things of why what she did was the worst thing to do. I wouldn't go so far as to kill her, but I'd let her know that if she ever asked for a gun or reached for a gun again I'd tell her she'd have to leave the group and go off on her own.Evil Benius said:
Man, especially after what happened to Carl to just go off shooting guns when there is no need to, it's enraging. I think the fact that she didn't kill Daryl just makes it worse in a way. If she had hit him square in the head then okay at least she's a good shot; stupid, but a good shot. But to miss... like I posted earlier she could have killed ANY of the guys by accident who were running out there. She's a liability to the group and should spend the rest of her time trying to make up for that by doing whatever menial task that needs to be done for the good of the group.
sixteen-bit
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Yeah, lucky for Daryl it was just the shoe.lawblob said:
Great episode last night. This show has really been turning it around, which is great to see. I was so mad at Andrea last night, but then I thought "You know, this is totally just like the comic to pull a stunt like this. Better get used to it here too."
And then he turned out to be fine, which I'm conflicted about. On one hand, he's one of the better characters so it would really suck to lose him. On the other hand, it would reinforce the rules of the comic that "nobody is safe". TV shows don't really just go kill off fan-fave characters like that, but I always thought this show would be an exception.
Ah well. I guess I'm more happy that he lived than I am mad about them chickening out.
And then he turned out to be fine, which I'm conflicted about. On one hand, he's one of the better characters so it would really suck to lose him. On the other hand, it would reinforce the rules of the comic that "nobody is safe". TV shows don't really just go kill off fan-fave characters like that, but I always thought this show would be an exception.
Ah well. I guess I'm more happy that he lived than I am mad about them chickening out.
RatskyWatsky
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People actually thought that Andrea killed Daryl? It was obvious that the bullet just grazed his head.
walbertsmith
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For those complaining about the Sophia storyline, while I do agree it seems like it's been going on for ages, note that it's only been about 3-4 days of "actual" time for the characters. It's clear they're using it as a vehicle to develop other storylines. The relationship between Darryl and Carol is the obvious one, but it also deepens the strain between Shane and Rick. The storyline furthers the utilitarian mentality of Shane versus the humanitarian side that Rick exhibits (Lori's earlier torments regarding Carl and her comments this episode show that she agrees with Shane, which spices up the dichotomy).
Also, just like the Carl-getting-shot storyline brought us a revelation in the transformation of Shane's character, it looks like Sophia's storyline is adding depth to Darryl's character. Since he seems to be most people's favorite character, giving him more screen time is a good thing, yes?
Also, just like the Carl-getting-shot storyline brought us a revelation in the transformation of Shane's character, it looks like Sophia's storyline is adding depth to Darryl's character. Since he seems to be most people's favorite character, giving him more screen time is a good thing, yes?
Jason's Ultimatum
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The plot on the farm/house is getting a bit old, but at least the writers are keeping it fresh with some tense scenes.
walbertsmith
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Moofers said:
100% agree.
Moofers said:
If you think about it, this is a comic staple as well:
Carl getting shot
Jason's Ultimatum said:
They just found a barn full of zombies. I think there should be some interesting plot stuff happening with the farm pretty soon here.
Also, what actually happened that made Andrea shoot Daryl? Our cable went on the fritz at an incredibly inopportune moment so we saw him coming out of the woods, a black screen, and then her shooting.
Okay, for those that have read the comic book..
Do you get excited any time Rick goes off alone with Shane? I keep wondering which one of these times that a) Rick is going to find out about Shane and Lori and then Rick goes apeshit and kills Shane, or b) Shane finally goes nuts and Rick has to kill him.
pr0cs
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Really enjoyed the episode, I liked Daryl's dreams with his brother, I thought the dialog was awesome.
Seems to me that each episode is getting better and better.
The reason the zombies in the barn went nuts at the end is they were provoked by Glen, it's pretty clear that the barn is far enough away that the zombies have been stuck but when they finally smell flesh (and I presume they're starving) they go crazy and try and get out. Very cool that it's following the comics, guess we'll find out how close with next weeks episode.
Seems to me that each episode is getting better and better.
The reason the zombies in the barn went nuts at the end is they were provoked by Glen, it's pretty clear that the barn is far enough away that the zombies have been stuck but when they finally smell flesh (and I presume they're starving) they go crazy and try and get out. Very cool that it's following the comics, guess we'll find out how close with next weeks episode.
Crazymoogle
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andycapps said:
What makes you think
it will be either of those?
walbertsmith
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Moofers said:
Yeah once I realized what they're doing with the show, it made the show a lot more palatable.
I think a large part of the discontent from comic readers is the medium. We expect comics to be a bit outlandish in scope and situation and it doesn't faze us when extremely improbable things happen.
However, in a medium like television where there are no gaps that can be glossed over since the scenes are continuous (unlike comic panels), then our sense of the absurd heightens and we become more critical of it. It's exacerbated when the show attempts to recreate "realism" (as real as you can get in a zombie apocalypse show) using a comic book as its basis.
For instance, "Vatos" from the first season, penned by Kirkman himself. Imagine that episode in comic form. You wouldn't be privy to all the lame gangster-isms they're painfully trying to portray, nor the shitty accents or acting. All you would have seen is dialogue spoken by typical unsavory types. The impact is stronger if it were in a comic medium and we can't nitpick about all the things that matter for television (like acting).
walbertsmith
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andycapps said:
This storyline feels like
an end of the season cliffhanger
Cornballer
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Keep in mind that we'll most likely have some kind of a cliffhanger after Episode 7 before the hiatus and another one at the end of the season (Episode 13.)walbertsmith said:
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Cornballer said:
I'm guessing the midseason cliffhanger
will be when the contents of the barn unleashes its undead fury upon the residents of the farm muwahahahahahaa
walbertsmith
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andycapps said:
Yeah, that would be a solid point. I'm guessing the second half of the season will deal with
the Wiltshire Estates.... significant enough to deserve TV time, yet not so lengthy as to need more than half a season.
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Midseason cliffhanger will be Rick and Hershel falling in love, then when Hershel asks Rick where he wants to have sex during dinner Rick says EVER HAVE SEX ON A COW and then hershel goes running to the barn where rick has already found out his secret, and completely undressed.
sixteen-bit
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Darabont is truly amazing-Pyromaniac- said:
AngmarsKing701
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andycapps said:
That was Daryl, not Shane. Still funny as hell though.
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&Divius said:
They're using the search for Sohia to heighten the differences between our two alpha males: Rick and Shane. One wants to drop the girl, make the tough decisons, and get down to the business of surviving in a post-apocalytic world. The other wants to cling to his humanity, despite the odds, and retain a moralistic impression in the face of a post-apocalyptic world.
The conversation the two of them had this week had more to do about Sophia than anything. If Sophia is found alive, Rick was right and Shane has to face the fact that survival isn't the only imperative (something he's desperately clinging to after the Otis incident). If Sophia is dead, then Shane wins and he's justified in what he did to Otis. Rick would also have to come face to face with hopelessness.
While I think they're dragging it out a bit, I hope that conversation was the impetus to a discovery one way or the other of Sophia's fate in next week's episode.
sixteen-bit
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Are you sure? I thought it was Shane too.AngmarsKing701 said:
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SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Fixed for Walking Dead rules.RatskyWatsky said:
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hahahaa, goddamn if Ted made his way into this show I'd quit watching television all together.FantasticMrFoxdie said:Lori finds out..then gets back at Rick by fucking Ted.
Agreed. It really hit home this episode that defining the dynamic between Rick and Shane was the whole point of the lost Sophia arc. Rick is starting to look more and more ridiculous as the days go by and people keep getting hurt, and Shane is starting to make sense even though what he's suggesting seems outright cruel.
I still believe the Sophia arc could have been condensed into 3 episodes instead of 5+, but this was the first time the show was able to justify spending so much time on it...sorta.
sixteen-bit
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Same universe and all that-Pyromaniac- said:
Breaking Bad spoilers
and hey, he's actually dead now!
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