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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC

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Is this thread always filled with so many trolls that (not so) secretly love this show?

But I agree that Lori driving out there was a bit much. Other than that it was a slow burn, as this show has been from the beginning, and that last scene was the best of the series by far.
 
I was hoping those two drifters would live. That actor, who I think was in True Blood, was way more charismatic than a lot of the other castmembers, and would've added a lot more tension to the show if he was brought back to the farm, either invited or through gunpoint.

While Rick suddenly became more badass by shooting him, I feel like we're just going to get more of the same at the farm now. Bunch of people moping around and a ridiculously stagnant plot.

It's a fucking show about the zombie apocalypse. What the fuck do you expect from the show? People pumping shotguns and blowing zombies brains out 24/7? Of course they're gonna angst!
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People bored of the show aren't just looking for mindless action. It really lacks any sort of tension or suspense, which is uncommon for the genre. I thought they might have finally been building up to it with last season's finale and the potential for a big rift forming between Shane and Rick, or Rick and Herschel, but even that seems to have mended by the end of this episode. I mean at some point, the show has to move on from the farm cause it's just too much of a safe haven right now and utterly boring. They're no longer even threatened by the zombies.
 
scosher said:
People bored of the show aren't just looking for mindless action. It really lacks any sort of tension or suspense, which is uncommon for the genre. I thought they might have finally been building up to it with last season's finale and the potential for a big rift forming between Shane and Rick, or Rick and Herschel, but even that seems to have mended by the end of this episode. I mean at some point, the show has to move on from the farm cause it's just too much of a safe haven right now and utterly boring. They're no longer even threatened by the zombies.
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Yesterday was my first exposure to season 2.
It's so much better than season 1. The tension is there IMO. Its a completely watchable "B" show, now with seemingly better dialogue.
Maybe it's my knowledge from the comics or whatever, but I think they are building to some cool stuff... I mean, it's only been half a season.

I really cant help but think complainers at this point are just hanging on to how awful last season was, or that they want the show to be an action series. I'm not a mind reader, but that's how it comes across.
 
Lori driving out there was totally ridiculous.

"Rick, you can't go out on this fairly routine run to get our doctor back! Ya know, Carl and family and stuff!"

*ten minutes later*

"I guess I'll leave and not tell anyone. Especially not Carl."

Beyond that, it was fine.
 
ultron87 said:
Lori driving out there was totally ridiculous.

"Rick, you can't go out on this fairly routine run to get our doctor back! Ya know, Carl and family and stuff!"

*ten minutes later*

"I guess I'll leave and not tell anyone. Especially not Carl."

Beyond that, it was fine.
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That shit really was ridiculous. Giving shane, dale and rick conversations throughout that had subtext and didn't punch everything on the nose has me hoping for the best, but damn if that Lori thing isn't dumb. Luckily, it was like 1% of the episode's content.

Now, it will probably shit up next week's episode...
 
At the beginning of the episode they put the bodies on the truck. At the end of the episode, the truck finally drives....to the back of the barn or close to it, and burns the bodies. Something that could have been advanced in the first ten minutes gets dragged out through the entire episode. The show is slow to the point of annoyance. That bar scene was great though....but that was pretty much it for an entire episode.
 
sillymonkey321 said:
At the beginning of the episode they put the bodies on the truck. At the end of the episode, the truck finally drives....to the back of the barn or close to it, and burns the bodies. Something that could have been advanced in the first ten minutes gets dragged out through the entire episode. The show is slow to the point of annoyance. That bar scene was great though....but that was pretty much it for an entire episode.
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I think you might be overestimating how fast digging holes for 4 bodies is... :)

Also, I thought Shane had a few good scenes here. Where he's basically going to all the characters and jockeying for reassurance that he didn't majorly fuck up. His completely one sided arguments and conversations with the other characters... Well, I found them affecting. His, "If I'm so evil why didn't you stop me!?" thing with Dale betrayed a lot underlying motives for both characters without Dale saying a word.
The scene where he cleaned up the lonely widow whose child was murdered was pretty good too.

Maybe it's not for everyone (I know a lo of people want plot momentum) but I thought we saw several characters go through a lot internally this episode. Something past episodes has lacked.
 
Just saw the episode. The pace wasn't too bad but I agree with the majority about the Lori situation being totally ridiculous. That last scene at the bar was brilliant though. I give this episode a B-
 
I'm going to agree with people here about Lori/her car. I literally rolled my eyes when that happened. I thought it was a fine episode besides that. I could cut the tension with a knife in that bar scene. Great scene.

I was honestly pretty happy that Rick took them out right then and there. Those guys looked like they were going to be obnoxious had they returned with the rest of them. Maybe it could have made things more interesting back on the farm? Who knows. I feel like they have enough on their plate already though.
 
yellow submarine said:
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I look forward to the 4k 3D re-re-re-release of this show where the guy in the bar shoots first.
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Damn, quick draw mcgraw right there.
 
I had a little hope that perhaps the show would actually make it down to Ft. Benning/Columbus, as I grew up there.

But nope, in one broad stroke, they pretty much wrote that place off :(

Only thing about the quick draw: With that gun, there's going to be a major recoil, which isn't in the shot (because it's not reeeeeaaaaaal!!!!!!!)
 
Most annoying part was how Rick and Hershel were just chilling WHILE HIS DAUGHTER IS IN SOME KIND OF COMA. Seriously. Just drag his old ass back to the farm.
 
ultron87 said:
Oh god, the reflection is all kinds of wrong. Can't unsee!
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Perhaps an attempt at making the mirror shake from being impacted by a bullet, blood and brain matter. Probably a complex shot to do: Fake the blood, the shake, the reflection, the dude's shadow, the bullet hole, the gun fire.


Also: when is anyone going to do a new DaleFace.gif? I'm sure there was one or 2 to be found in last nights episode.
 
Just rewatched the episode and **COMIC BOOK SPOILER**
it seems to me that the one who's going to kill off Shane isn't Carl like in the comics but Dale
 
Dai101 said:
Just rewatched the episode and
it seems to me that the one who's going to kill off Shane isn't Carl like in the comics but Dale
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In keeping with the fact that the show wants to be different from the comics, I am very worried about Glen. Having the whole "Maggie said she loves me, but I haven't said it" + "make sure you tell her when you get back" deal....comes off as foreshadowing something bad.
 
ultron87 said:
Lori driving out there was totally ridiculous.

"Rick, you can't go out on this fairly routine run to get our doctor back! Ya know, Carl and family and stuff!"

*ten minutes later*

"I guess I'll leave and not tell anyone. Especially not Carl."

Beyond that, it was fine.
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I felt the same. It was so contrived.

Also, why didn't anyone immediately think to look for bite marks on the girl who suddenly got sick? Even if she is actually just sick and not a zombie, YOU'RE IN A FUCKING ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE and nobody has the insight to look at her body just to ensure that she won't turn into a zombie and kill everyone in the house? Are you fucking kidding me?

The show is so frustrating, none of the characters are likable except for maybe Carl and the crossbow dude, the plot drags its feet like a five year old in a toy store. I'll keep watching, but I really hope it picks up soon. I'm starting to lose patience big time.
 
backflip10019 said:
I felt the same. It was so contrived.

Also, why didn't anyone immediately think to look for bite marks on the girl who suddenly got sick? Even if she is actually just sick and not a zombie, YOU'RE IN A FUCKING ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE and nobody has the insight to look at her body just to ensure that she won't turn into a zombie and kill everyone in the house? Are you fucking kidding me?

The show is so frustrating, none of the characters are likable except for maybe Carl, the plot drags its feet like a five year old in a toy store. I'll keep watching, but I really hope it picks up soon. I'm starting to lose patience big time.
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Seeing how everyone is hovering over her and checking her for fever, pretty sure any bite marks would be found. Especially when shes not wearing that much and is wearing white also.

It would be pretty pointless scene to bother with, in same regard to why we had time wasted constantly seeing them do every step of burning the bodies. Don't need more time wasting on the screen.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Seeing how everyone is hovering over her and checking her for fever, pretty sure any bite marks would be found. Especially when shes not wearing that much and is wearing white also.

It would be pretty pointless scene to bother with, in same regard to why we had time wasted constantly seeing them do every step of burning the bodies. Don't need more time wasting on the screen.
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I can see where you're coming from, but it would only have to be one line -- something like, "I checked her for bite marks, but thank god she's fine." Just something simple like that to take it off my mind because that's literally all I could think about during that scene and the ensuing scenes where Rick et. al. search for old man Rivers.

I agree with you, though, the body moving/burning scenes were so unnecessary and almost unrealistic. They know that they're going to have to eventually move on from this spot -- several characters have said as much thus far -- and yet they waste their time and energy on these random bodies. It doesn't make sense to me. It's like they're treating the whole zombie thing so lightly -- how about they worry about fucking surviving instead of burning undead bodies? I can understand burying those who they care about but the randoms? Nah, doesn't make sense. And then devoting 5+ minutes of screen time to it? Come the fuck on.
 
I'm with everyone with the Lori situation. So ridiculous. Only redeeming factor is if she turns into a zombie and they lock her in the barn.

Also in the bar scene I was thinking to myself he better just kill them rather than having enemies out there.
 
LQX said:
Also in the bar scene I was thinking to myself he better just kill them rather than having enemies out there.
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That was the one redeeming point of the episode to me -- that Rick showed some balls for once. But even that scene felt really predictable. Maybe it's just that we've been familiarized with the "zombie apocalypse" scenario lately, but once the strangers inquired about the farm, I knew there was no way they were making it out of the bar alive.
 
Damn Rick shot both guys in the head

It was boring tease episode. It was somewhat decent but I had to wait months for that, making it worse. :(

I liked Darryl's reaction to Lori. They also showed how careless Lori could be. Poor Carl's going to pay.
 
backflip10019 said:
I agree with you, though, the body moving/burning scenes were so unnecessary and almost unrealistic. They know that they're going to have to eventually move on from this spot -- several characters have said as much thus far -- and yet they waste their time and energy on these random bodies. It doesn't make sense to me. It's like they're treating the whole zombie thing so lightly -- how about they worry about fucking surviving instead of burning undead bodies? I can understand burying those who they care about but the randoms? Nah, doesn't make sense. And then devoting 5+ minutes of screen time to it? Come the fuck on.
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Hey, know what attracts predators/zombies? The smell of a dozen rotting corpses left out in the Georgia sun for days on end.
 
backflip10019 said:
I agree with you, though, the body moving/burning scenes were so unnecessary and almost unrealistic. They know that they're going to have to eventually move on from this spot -- several characters have said as much thus far -- and yet they waste their time and energy on these random bodies. It doesn't make sense to me. It's like they're treating the whole zombie thing so lightly -- how about they worry about fucking surviving instead of burning undead bodies? I can understand burying those who they care about but the randoms? Nah, doesn't make sense. And then devoting 5+ minutes of screen time to it? Come the fuck on.
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I totally understand the complaints about the time devoted to the act (and the amount of time it took), but I don't understand the problem with moving/burning the bodies.

Maybe they feel like they'll have to move on eventually, but seems to me they expect to be there in the neighborhood of months, at least (through Lori's pregnancy). As such, seems pretty reasonable to burn corpses rather than what.. let them sit there and decompose?

All in all, I wasn't super thrilled with the episode, but the bar scene was really well done. Nice to have a little TV to watch again.
 
ToyMachine228 said:
You're missing the point. "The farm is too crowded" is a polite way of saying we don't want you. Bringing more people in means more people they have to provide for. That might be plausible if they were decent people who were going to pull their own weight. They obviously weren't trustworthy, moral people. So Rick was trying to politely say...Get the fuck out. He did what he had to do.

And to say "Rick wouldn't do that" is missing the point. You're viewing the character in a one-dimensional manner. Rick has done tough things since the beginning of the show. He went through hell to find his family. And once he did, the whole point of this arc was that he was hoping they could settle down and things would be normal again. The events involving the barn have proved to him that no, things can't be normal again and we have to adapt. And this bar scene proves that Rick has come around in his way of thinking.

In the comics, Rick's character becomes a pure badass. And this is the beginning of that.
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I've read the comics. In the comics they add new characters to the mix on several occasions.

I maintain that it was contrived. These are two young men who are fully-armed and seem to know a lot about the surrounding areas. They would have been an asset to the group. There was nothing in the first few minutes of their interaction to indicate that these were people who wouldn't fit in; it wasn't until near the end of their conversation that things turned ugly. The writers just wanted to show us how Rick is changing as a character. It's effective, but it makes no sense.
 
Puddles said:
I've read the comics. In the comics they add new characters to the mix on several occasions.

I maintain that it was contrived. These are two young men who are fully-armed and seem to know a lot about the surrounding areas. They would have been an asset to the group. There was nothing in the first few minutes of their interaction to indicate that these were people who wouldn't fit in; it wasn't until near the end of their conversation that things turned ugly. The writers just wanted to show us how Rick is changing as a character. It's effective, but it makes no sense.
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Eh no, they just got to the area, they don't know about the surrounding area.

Again they were being pushy about info and Hershell was not giving it out. Him and Rick looked at each other, none would say a thing and Hershell doesn't even want Rick and his people on the farm, why is he going to let new strangers come? Rick was respecting Hershell there by not volunterring that info.

Sorry but if they just went "sure come on over", it would have made far less sense and been completely against everything Rick and Hershell were butting heads over. And they were right to be leery when the dude was willing to draw on Rick over the situation. They two guys should have accepted the situation and moved on, instead they kept pushing and the one guy did reach for his gun on Rick over it. Instead of trying diplomacy or getting in someones good graces, they draw on you?
 
This is really nitpicky but you can hold a gun with two hands and still look badass and be quickdraw mcgraw. See: Justified. A police officer would have better discipline. Juuuuust saying.

Anyways, I liked this episode other than the Lori bit.
 
ultron87 said:
Lori driving out there was totally ridiculous.

"Rick, you can't go out on this fairly routine run to get our doctor back! Ya know, Carl and family and stuff!"

*ten minutes later*

"I guess I'll leave and not tell anyone. Especially not Carl."

Beyond that, it was fine.
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Shes so stupid, she makes us women drivers look bad...come on now you hit a zombie you didnt have to throw your car off the side of the road. Always making trouble.
 
SickBoy said:
I totally understand the complaints about the time devoted to the act (and the amount of time it took), but I don't understand the problem with moving/burning the bodies.

Maybe they feel like they'll have to move on eventually, but seems to me they expect to be there in the neighborhood of months, at least (through Lori's pregnancy). As such, seems pretty reasonable to burn corpses rather than what.. let them sit there and decompose.
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Yeah, that makes sense when you put it that way. Really, I just want them to start acting with more common sense. It just seems to me that these characters act entirely on nonsensical impulse. Like Herschel heading to the bar? Makes sense if he wants a drink. But he's just going to abandon the rest of them and hide out by himself? Bring the booze back to the farm, drink all you want.
 
backflip10019 said:
Yeah, that makes sense when you put it that way. Really, I just want them to start acting with more common sense. It just seems to me that these characters act entirely on nonsensical impulse. Like Herschel heading to the bar? Makes sense if he wants a drink. But he's just going to abandon the rest of them and hide out by himself? Bring the booze back to the farm, drink all you want.
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Give the old man a break, he was having a mental (and spiritual) breakdown, i don't think he was thinking with a rational view for that moment.
 
lush said:
Lori leaving made absolutely zero sense. It was just fucking stupid. That's the kind of shit that seriously makes me question as to why I watch this show.

I keep coming back for more though. And again, the last 5 minutes were great.
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Yep and who the fuck does that after hitting something?? The first reaction after you hit anything is to slam on the breaks not speed up and run into a ditch!
 
Gonna agree with the Lori comments. It seems like the creators were out of fresh ideas, and decided to add Lori flipping the car over.

I wish we could go back to S1 type episodes.
 
Just caught up on the episode. Pretty good, loved the Shane and for once the Rick scenes.

Shane's showing that he wasn't completely comfortable with the decision he made and how he acted. I'm on Team Shane all the way, but only because Rick has been such a whiner for majority of the show, whining to his wife about his responsibilities, kissing Herschel's ass, etc. This is I think the first time Rick actually did something other than talk since he tried to save Sofia at the beginning of the season. Shane has the right ideas, however he is just going about it the wrong way and he has the right ideas for the wrong reason with what his self-esteem, beta/alpha male, Lori/Carl stuff and what not, but at least it was more interesting than anything Rick this whole season. Loved how Shane was reassuring himself of the decision he made with Dale while Dale not saying anything.

Lori Lori Lori....the hell is wrong with her. I have hated her since the beginning. She gets to be on the high horse compared to everyone else because of Shane and Rick, she hasn't actually done anything of importance that I remember. I always thought where the hell she gets off on giving other people orders. I loved the earlier scene where Maggie told her off as she almost got them killed because of her stupid pregnancy, she didn't even seem to feel that guilty. Now Daryl told her and was totally on the mark. The first thing she actually tries to do herself and she screws up within minutes. I haven't seen such a contrived car accident since Dexter. Damn Lori, what is wrong with you or I should say what is wrong with the writers. Is her character as bad in the comics?

That bar scene, goddamn. Best scene since the Shane/Otis scene trying to escape from the zombies. I loved how they didn't really spell it out that the guys are bad news till they drew their gun on Rick. There was no way they would let them on the farm seeing the type of guys they are and I'm sure Rick was easily able to indentify they type of guys they were with what being a cop and all. The comment about the gun being from a cop being said so proudly, the fat guy taking a piss right there, no way they would be good news for the farm.
 
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