Zombie James
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Seraph830 said:
Last generation Nintendo launched a very graphically competitive system (at least better than the PS2) for $50 less than what the Wii costs today.
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The Wii is torturing the graphics whore inside of me.
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Last generation Nintendo launched a very graphically competitive system (at least better than the PS2) for $50 less than what the Wii costs today.
EphemeralDream
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QFT. It's not like the Wii's graphical abilities were a big secret.Hatorade said:
@Bebpo - See the Peter Moore thread in response to the 360 failure rate. $300 dollars for an unreliable console is no longer $300.
Also will 720p rendering ability really make that much of a difference? Without the ability to do more with the hardware, you'll basically just get upscaled last-gen graphics.
On the bright side, the port-a-thon is on its final legs so most of the games that are coming in the rest of the year are from the ground up.
Eteric Rice
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Is that good enough? :/
Maximilian E.
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My main complaint from the start was that the fact that the Wii is barely over the GC in terms of power, that it's downright insulting.
In it's defense, though I will say this. Once developers stop ****ing around, there should be noticeable improvement. I recall some 360 games failing to impress early in its life. The only problem being is that Wii's graphical ceiling will be reached far quicker, sadly.
In it's defense, though I will say this. Once developers stop ****ing around, there should be noticeable improvement. I recall some 360 games failing to impress early in its life. The only problem being is that Wii's graphical ceiling will be reached far quicker, sadly.
CurseoftheGods
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Hcoregamer00 said:
Good points. For some strange reason, playing my DS after the PSP doesn't bother me one bit. I have no idea. :lol
Hcoregamer00
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_leech_ said:
Bingo, and we know that Nintendo has great engineers to do what they did with the cube. That means that it was very possible for them to be very much "next gen" in shader effects and polygon counts, even if the console wasn't as powerful as the other two.
Hell, the damn thing doesn't even have a programmable GPU like the XBOX, which explains why the thing isn't pushing "next gen" effects. If they had a better GPU that was more in line with modern standards most people wouldn't be complaining about graphics, and nintendo could have gotten a mass produced one REALLY CHEAP.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Already did. Can't believe it's real.bud said:
Eteric Rice
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CurseoftheGods said:
I think the problem might be the size of your TV in some cases. From what I understand, a 32" HDTV and under looks fine with the Wii. When you start going much over that, then it starts to get bad.
That's only what I've heard, though.
Mefisutoferesu
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So what you're saying is because Nintendo didn't know whether the gamble that would essentially sink or swim the console side of their company would be successful or not they decided to give it the BEST opportunity they could to succeed by GIMPING THE HARDWARE!! Brilliant!Hcoregamer00 said:
Nintendo is being greedy, end of story.
CurseoftheGods said:
It's not to the point where I'd call it torture, but my line of thinking with the Wii (and being a multiplatform owner in general) is that I'll always get the games that were made from the ground up for that particular system. I've always agreed to a point with Nintendo's idea of graphics only improving so much, though (note to Nintendo: it doesn't mean you STOP :lol ), so I avoid the shovelware and look for the games made for it.
Wii Sports, Zelda, and Sonic still look good for what it's able to do though in 480p. Whoever that audience is that can live with the ports of Madden, CoD, Godfather, etc. is obviously into their own thing, but it's not what I got the system for and I accept that.
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Link316 said:
Doesn't mean we can't discuss it. This is a message board ffs.
http://www.Break.com/index/embarrasing_hot_tub_accident.htmlJirotrom said:
FrostuTheNinja
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Grecco said:
/thread
CurseoftheGods
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Eteric Rice said:
You might be on to something. I have a 42" Sony LCD projection. Sonic, which some claim delivers the best graphics so far on the system, looks blurry and unimpressive on my HDTV.
However, I did play God of War last night and it looked pretty good in 480p.
FrostuTheNinja
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Hatorade said:
Luigi's Mansion had normal mapping. As did Crystal Chronicles.
Eteric Rice
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Y2Kevbug11 said:Those shots are also beyond what the wii can produce in resolution.
Eteric Rice, honestly, no.
Here's what that Red Steel bullshot looks like in reality. It's a photo (horribly done, sorry) taken off MY TV (32", surprise)
I couldn't find them in normal res.
I guess it costed nintendo nothing to R&D the Wii-mote._leech_ said:
yes, Wii is too expensive given the hardware in the box alone. But none of us have any idea what went into making the Wii and what it costed Nintendo. So before the comparisons are made based purley off what we "see", stop and think that maybe we dont know the whole picture.
And finally Nintendo who loves profit priced Wii at $250. MS who takes huge losses priced the core at $300. Could you imagine how much profit loving nintendo would have charged us for that kind of hardware?
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Grecco said:
You're missing the point of the thread. I am just curious about what other multiplatform owners have to say about what I have experienced. I don't regret my purchase at all.
A big problem is that the framebuffer is still 3MB, resulting in a lot of dithering (like the godfather) and image quality that isn't as good as it should be.
With the increased texture memory, low res textures should be less of a problem, but if you look at the Red Steel screenshot, you can see it is.
With the increased texture memory, low res textures should be less of a problem, but if you look at the Red Steel screenshot, you can see it is.
Eteric Rice
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Oblivion said:
Probably still will be. The problem is that ports are raining down from the sky right now. No one has really "tried" to push it yet.
I'm not worried, as I have an SDTV still. I'm pretty sure most hardcore gamers still do, as many older games don't look to great on HD.
Hcoregamer00
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Mefisutoferesu said:So what you're saying is because Nintendo didn't know whether the gamble that would essentially sink or swim the console side of their company would be successful or not they decided to give it the BEST opportunity they could to succeed by GIMPING THE HARDWARE!! Brilliant!
Nintendo is being greedy, end of story.
No, I was saying that they wanted to cover losses if it turned out to be a big failure so from the outset they made it very profitable. It is quite clear that the DS was meant to be a stopgap to fight the PSP until they could come up with a Gameboy successor, so they created a souped up PSX, added gimmicky dual screens and then released it. The best part was that they made money on it from the start. The Wii is the same thing, they knew that the DS worked with a gimmick and tried to apply it to consoles. They also know that handheld success is not indicative of console success so the Wii was an equally big risk. Hence, the Wii was released underpowered because they weren't sure their strategy would work.
Nintendo is known for being cheap asses, but the DS and Wii were made profitable from the start just because they weren't sure whether people would be receptive or not.
CurseoftheGods
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Eteric Rice said:
AdmiralViscen
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This thread is a new and interesting idea.
chibcicylist
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You just have to get used to it.
CurseoftheGods
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bud said:
Eteric Rice
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CurseoftheGods said:
Dewy's Adventure, though those screens aren't in normal resolution. One sec, finding the video.
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Click here.
DeaconKnowledge
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Bebpo said:
Agreed. At first I was put off by the minimal graphics increase, but the reality is that nobody has really pushed the Wii (including Nintendo).
If you're going to foist blame somewhere, do so on the developers for not taking advantage of the system, not in the hardware itself (which is reportedly far more powerful than we've seen graphically.)
In principle, I don't have a problem with the wii graphics. Since the PS1/N64 days, Pc graphics were better (sometimes far better) than console graphics and I didn't have problems to go back to them.
What I'm worried about is that developers for Wii think they can get away with their extremly mediocre efforts. It's such a shame, there is no game for wii which looks better than (or even on par) the ****ing GC launch game Rogue Squadron. Granted, Factor 5 are tech gurus and very few latter GC games matched Rogue Squadron, but it is still ridicolous.
What I'm worried about is that developers for Wii think they can get away with their extremly mediocre efforts. It's such a shame, there is no game for wii which looks better than (or even on par) the ****ing GC launch game Rogue Squadron. Granted, Factor 5 are tech gurus and very few latter GC games matched Rogue Squadron, but it is still ridicolous.