chronic_archaic
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I notice that many exclude the console from discussion as if it doesn't count or something.
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The Wii U is an eighth gen console right?
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goldenpp72
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It is, it's just that it doesn't get any support from developers working on 8th gen hardware.
Triggerhappytel
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Technically yes, although a lot of people consider it out of sync with console generations due to its hardware tech being more like the PS360. The NX will be the first 9th generation console as well, although if Sony and MS are going for iterative yearly updates then I guess the lines are about to get a lot more blurred.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Yes. It's just off doing its own thing so sometimes it doesn't get brought up because it's not relevant to a lot of discussion.
DownGrader
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Yes. It is a full successor to Wii, which was a 7th gen console, which itself was a successor to 6th gen GameCube etc.
thenewjeva
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It's a console thats directly competing with the PS4 and Xbox One so it's an eighth gen console. NX, Neo, and Scorpio appears to be shaping the next generation.
linkandzelda
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Yes.
Yes, it was released at such a time as to make it a competitor to primarily Wii U, Xbox One, and PS4 on the market throughout most of its life.
DownGrader
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Power doesn't matter. Well, it does it general, but not in light of "generation" discussion, which is purely about chronology.
LordRaptor
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This argument is somewhat moot given the heavy likelihood that Sony and Ms are both preparing 9th gen consoles for launch next year
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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It's Nintendos 8th generation of console, but it is not an device reflective of what the 8th generation is capable of.
It has more in common with 7th generation in terms of power, software and support.
It has more in common with 7th generation in terms of power, software and support.
stargateheaven
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Yes.
And it does show. The polish and IQ on nintendo games are out of this world. I love it!!
And it does show. The polish and IQ on nintendo games are out of this world. I love it!!
I thought Neo and Scorpio were just slightly more powerful PS4's and Xboxes, but still the same gen.
Surely we're not getting PS5 next year.
And the NX will be a 9th generation console.
They typically release close to one another, but Nintendo is really shaking up the pattern with Wii U attempt to jump the next generation ahead and so far it hasn't worked in their favor.
I always viewed Generations as a means to standardize the tech for the next 5-8 years for everyone to follow and get caught up to speed for what the expected hardware they're working on is in terms of whats available at an affordable cost to maximize profits, game quality, and game-making efficiency. Or am I just a hopeful day-dreamer for believing that?
But the gaming industry has changed a lot and they're trying new things to maximize profits. I just hope Playstation and Xbox realizes that updating their consoles specs now is essentially suicide in both their consumer fronts and publisher fronts since it's going to us both more money at the end of the day.
They typically release close to one another, but Nintendo is really shaking up the pattern with Wii U attempt to jump the next generation ahead and so far it hasn't worked in their favor.
I always viewed Generations as a means to standardize the tech for the next 5-8 years for everyone to follow and get caught up to speed for what the expected hardware they're working on is in terms of whats available at an affordable cost to maximize profits, game quality, and game-making efficiency. Or am I just a hopeful day-dreamer for believing that?
But the gaming industry has changed a lot and they're trying new things to maximize profits. I just hope Playstation and Xbox realizes that updating their consoles specs now is essentially suicide in both their consumer fronts and publisher fronts since it's going to us both more money at the end of the day.
Mithos
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Especially those "GEN4" people, whomever they are ;p
LordRaptor
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It doesn't really matter what brand they stick on the box, or what degree of power increase the revision contains, increased power hardware is a new console, not a 'slim' revision.
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'they' are EA.
LambdaTeos
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yep, it is, doesn't matter if it is not as powerful, it is indeed 8th gen, people just like to exclude it because it's not that powerful...or generic
potatohead
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Labels are increasingly meaningless.
WiiU is WiiU, that is for certain.
WiiU is WiiU, that is for certain.
I thought this was the case with Neo, but that rumors pointed to Scorpio being more of a full-on next gen console?
I mean, it's available at the same time as those, but is it really competing with them? It's not like it's doing anything to convert their users over and there is little overlap in terms of software. It's like saying M&Ms are competing with Papa John's. Sure, both are edible, but one is in the pizza business and the other is in the candy business.
I'm not super invested in this analogy
Well, Nintendo made it then. NX is going to lead its generation for years because... it will be alone there.
This is getting so confusing -_-
Hopefully E3 clears it up but I'd like this gen to last a few years longer.
Laevateinn
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One of those things can barely be described as edible.
ElectricBlanketFire
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By definition, yes.
8th gen, 9th gen, hell call it a 10th gen if you want. It's not offering the same kind of experiences and tech as its "competitors" so grouping it with the other boxes is kind of silly. I know people are very sensitive to this kind of terminology though. The whole idea of "gens" went out with the Wii
Storm Kyleis
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Yes, just like PS1 and N64 or Wii and PS3 were in the same generation.
NX will belong to the 9th generation.
NX will belong to the 9th generation.
DownGrader
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Your analogy could work (and fit really well, to be honest) with handhelds and home consoles, but with Wii U and PS4/Xbox One, it doesn't really work. Sure, there aren't many multiplatform titles which appear on all three systems, but they do exist, and Wii U as a home console is in competition for the same $200-$300 of a person who wants to buy a home console.
chronic_archaic
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I got the thought from the people who think the Dreamcast doesn't count as a 6th gen console - why does it not?
The Dreamcast is a 6th gen console.
DownGrader
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Well, the logic behind that is that Dreamcast was literally discontinued before GameCube and Xbox hit the market. (Not that it isn't a faulty logic.)
Poimandres
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I remember in 2012/2013 some people thought it would be this gens PS2. In reality it's closer to this gens Dreamcast... except without the power jump the Dreamcast had over it's last gen brothers.
It seems to be their strictly internal designation.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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Yes, but it really depends on how you define a generation.
You could make an argument that Neo and Scorpio are 9th gen.
You could make an argument that Neo and Scorpio are 9th gen.
There are no more generations
I Stalk Alone
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How did the wii displace time?
shiftplusone
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the wii very much aligned with the standard generational console split though
wtf are you on about
the wii u did and the NX will continue the standard generational change as well
geordiemp
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I always thing of generations by common games that are the rage and sum up the technology of that age.
7 th gen was the Skyrim, Mass Effect generation
8 th gen is the Witcher 3, GTA 5 generation
Nintendo does their own path and are not with the others at the moment, and have not been for some time.
7 th gen was the Skyrim, Mass Effect generation
8 th gen is the Witcher 3, GTA 5 generation
Nintendo does their own path and are not with the others at the moment, and have not been for some time.
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