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The Witcher (1) combat is some D-tier garbage
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Of course.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
One of the best rpg games. Easily.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Sure is. I'd dare say 1 has a better story than 2 or 3. Just way worse produced (and probably the crappiest into level a video game has ever had, very off putting and no where near the quality of the rest of the game)
EvilKatarn
Member
I don't see how The Witcher 3's combat is "garbage." It's definitely got it's problems, but it's a hell of a lot better than anything melee-related Bethesda's ever churned out. Skyrim's combat is the definition of "garbage", probably the worst I've ever played.
But yeah, the first game's combat is so, so bad. That game needs a complete remake.
But yeah, the first game's combat is so, so bad. That game needs a complete remake.
I agree. It wasn't "good", but it was simple and at least felt stat-based enough that I could focus on the RPG mechanics. Witcher 2's combat had so many problems with weird hitboxes, animation priority, really weird balancing, and so on.
Witcher 3 doesn't have amazing combat, but it's pretty damn solid for a game of its scale and taking into account how poor it was in previous games.
EdibleExplosives
Member
Yep.
As bad as Witcher 1's combat is, I still preferred it over the Witcher 2's. That shit was frustrating as fuck, and made the game a chore to play at times.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I find it garbage just because it can't decide what it is anymore. The potion system is stupid as hell and in the end it's insanely easy to break (and break immersion). Still it does its job and the game is playable, honestly I kinda fee Witcher 3 is like Bioshock Infinite. I'd rather they just completely remove combat and give me a great story driven interactive world, as the world building and overall design puts the combat system to shame.
How about "flawed"? I think that fits.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I wasn't overly impressed with its combat either but I found it tolerable. Didn't add much to my enjoyment of the game but didn't stand in its way too much either. Overall, I loved the shit out of Witcher 1 and it's my favourite game of the series. Similarly how Morrowind's dicey combat didn't bother me as much as Oblivion's and Skyrim's garbage action combat.
Recently, I quit playing Witcher 3 because its combat actually deterred me from playing the game. I found it absolutely unbearable and game-ruining.
Recently, I quit playing Witcher 3 because its combat actually deterred me from playing the game. I found it absolutely unbearable and game-ruining.
People love calling things "garbage" or "trash" on this forum.
Witcher 3 combat is far from perfect, but yeah, it's certainly not garbage by any stretch of the imagination.
iz.podpolja
Neo Member
If the combat is the sole deterring factor - go with easy & sign or bomb build, 'cause you're missing out.
MadYarpen
Member
I remember I liked W1 combat back then. Not sure I'd be able to play it now, though...
BTW, IIRC the reason it looks this way is that the game is running on the Aurora engine (Neverwinter nights), and they were unable to ditch the turn-based system this engine is based on. So this timing thing is their way to dress turn-based fighting into a real-time clothes.
I am not 100% sure this is correct, but I thought someone may find it interesting.
BTW, IIRC the reason it looks this way is that the game is running on the Aurora engine (Neverwinter nights), and they were unable to ditch the turn-based system this engine is based on. So this timing thing is their way to dress turn-based fighting into a real-time clothes.
I am not 100% sure this is correct, but I thought someone may find it interesting.
Honestly, I thought it was better than The Witcher 2's combat. Or at least, I enjoyed it more.
Probably. It has some boring parts and some dumb parts, but it also has some awesome parts.
Probably. It has some boring parts and some dumb parts, but it also has some awesome parts.
StoppedInTracks
Member
I know it will sound like a terrible brag but it is just an fact-based explanation: I've beaten over 167 RPGs in my life including platinuming 3/4 Souls games (which internet paints as the hardest rightfully or not).
I simply have to play RPGs on Hard otherwise the combat is the same thing I have seen someplace else 5 or 10 or 15 years ago.
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Killed The Beast. Wow that was... kind of undoable. Luckily I could brew the +100% damage to wraiths (?) potion in the cave and managed to down the Dog. Without that potion I would be royally fucked.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I played Witcher 1 on hard as well and the games gets progressively easier. Igni spell is broken as fuck if I remember correctly.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Wow, how do you even remember? It was so long ago.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Some of the best games ever don't have combat at all, or ways of avoiding it almost entirely.
Witcher 1 makes Witcher 2 & 3 look like Bayonetta. I've not played a worse playing action game in my life.
Yes absolutely. It's dated design wise but it's still a wonderful role playing experience.
Most games are easy as hell these days and anything besides the hardest difficulty feels like it was made for 5 year olds.
I go straight to the most difficult setting because of that, so I would imagine others do the same.
You can use a bong/hookah looking things and sell/smoke weed in Gothic 1.
sobaka770
Banned
i'm going to chime in and say that I actually kinda like it?
I played on hard so I didn't even had the mouse cursor hint, but it was still easy to do the combos. I likes the different stances and different RPG tree upgrades to each. Honestly, it's the old-school Neverwinter Knights kind of combat that bugs me more with misses and "pseudo-real time" mode, even KOTOR has that.
Witcher is dynamic and, if you choose correct stance, not all that hard.
I played on hard so I didn't even had the mouse cursor hint, but it was still easy to do the combos. I likes the different stances and different RPG tree upgrades to each. Honestly, it's the old-school Neverwinter Knights kind of combat that bugs me more with misses and "pseudo-real time" mode, even KOTOR has that.
Witcher is dynamic and, if you choose correct stance, not all that hard.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
Alright Gaf. I have an idea for a vida game.
What if we take The Witcher 3....
Listen I know its crazy
What if we take The Witcher 3,
INSANE I KNOW JUST KEEP READING
What if we take The Witcher 3, remove all combat
Guys its ok, breath, you got this.
What if we take The Witcher 3, remove all combat and replace it with
It would be the video game that defines all video games.
What if we take The Witcher 3....
Listen I know its crazy
What if we take The Witcher 3,
remove all combat.....
What if we take The Witcher 3, remove all combat
and replace it with....
What if we take The Witcher 3, remove all combat and replace it with
Dark Souls combat.
TouchMyBox
Member
It was... fine, I guess. It wasn't so horrible that it offended me, but it was not at all interesting, which wasn't an enormous issue since everything else had me entertained. It did mean that the several longer combat-heavy sections were not very fun though.
And add a Mount & Blade-style overworld with a bunch of the mechanics that come with that, with the ability to do castle sieges and shit like the prologue in the witcher 2, but have each town and their stories be really uniquely crafted like the witcher games and less like Mount & Blade.
welcome back Karl Hawk
The Witcher games all have disappointing combat, IMO. They do have other redeeming qualities, thankfully, but I think 3 was the only overrated entry (good, not great). Much of that opinion was born from the old-feeling combat (though it was second to its "Where in the World is Ciri Sandiego?" plot).
I am more charitable with first entries, so never had too much criticism for the original.
I am more charitable with first entries, so never had too much criticism for the original.
Witcher 1 had so much jank. Could only handle playing it for a few hors before giving up and moving to 2.
2 had less jank but just enough to keep me from getting invested.
3 is proving to have an acceptable amount of jank but combat seems unpredictable and unpolished compared to other ARPGs nowadays.
2 had less jank but just enough to keep me from getting invested.
3 is proving to have an acceptable amount of jank but combat seems unpredictable and unpolished compared to other ARPGs nowadays.
Turin Turambar
Member
Pagusas
Elden Member
...its not an action game, wtf?
My main issue is that the mouse emulation on the pads is jittery; especially when you are pressing a trigger to do a mouse-click. When you move your trigger finger you also slightly move the other muscles in your hand. Since the pads a very sensitive, you often times move the cursors at the moment of clicking, which is less than ideal. As a consequence, I am always lifting my thumbs of the pads before pressing a trigger. Apart from that, using your thumbs on a touchpad is necessarily less precise than a real mouse, and you also have to lift and reposition your thumb often to move the curse across longer distances. But that's a thing that I can get used to.
The controller has a ton of settings, including several settings for the sensitivity of the pads. Maybe it's possible to improve things substantially by finding the right settings. So far, I wasn't successful.
It has the best story of the franchise imo,only the low budget makes it pale compared to the W3
Nikodemos
Member
Finally gotten around to finishing it. Great story. Your actions have consequences in the later chapters.
Though I did cheese and gave myself talents with a savegame editor. Still, even with the cheese, some fights were hard, like the Koshchey, or the final battle (the Beast was easy even without cheesing, since I had learned Aard and stunned it before delivering a 1-hit kill).
Does anybody know where can I find the in-game paintings? They're not part of the extras on GOG.
Though I did cheese and gave myself talents with a savegame editor. Still, even with the cheese, some fights were hard, like the Koshchey, or the final battle (the Beast was easy even without cheesing, since I had learned Aard and stunned it before delivering a 1-hit kill).
Does anybody know where can I find the in-game paintings? They're not part of the extras on GOG.