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[Ateron]

It's probably easier to entertain the idea that this all Microsoft and the Xbox Ones fault than accept the fact that the PS4 just isn't that powerful to begin with.

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Relative to modern PC hardware

So all those multiplats that have better perfomance on the ps4 are lies, right?
Why should this game be different? If both games are exactly the same (when we've been seeing differences on almost everygame out there, be them big or small in ps4 favor), what will that say then? That CDP, known for pushing visuals like insane, couldn't capitalize on better hw on consoles? Couldn't or didn't want to? All the other devs could, so far. I expect this game to be the same.

Some people would rather believe that x1 suddenly got a super boost out of nowhere and know it's as poweful as ps4. Others might think a Dev wouldn't want to piss anyone off. What is more likely?

 

[cheezcake]

So all those multiplats that have better perfomance on the ps4 are lies, right?
Why should this game be different? If both games are exactly the same (when we've been seeing differences on almost everygame out there, be them big or small in ps4 favor), what will that say then? That CDP, known for pushing visuals like insane, couldn't capitalize on better hw on consoles? Couldn't or didn't want to? All the other devs could, so far. I expect this game to be the same.

Some people would rather believe that x1 suddenly got a super boost out of nowhere and know it's as poweful as ps4. Others might think a Dev wouldn't want to piss anyone off. What is more likely?

You literally just made shit up in your own head then got angry about it. They said the WItcher 3 may not run 1080p on either console, that statement does not mean the XB1 and the PS4 version will be identical (but its pretty fucking comical that you jump to that conclusion).

On top of that my statement was relative to PC. And just like the PS4 is objectively more powerful than the XB1, a modern gaming PC is objectively more powerful than a PS4. So for a game whose lead platform is PC, it makes sense that resolution and/or other visual effects are going to be reduced to run on other platforms.

 

[yuraya]

Not really surprising. If games like Watch Dogs and BF4 are only 900p on the PS4 (both of which were cross gen games) than I don't see how its possible to make Witcher 3 1080p on PS4 without gimping several settings. The draw distance and sheer depth of the city they showed in the 35 min demo was probably the most impressive next gen stuff I've seen so far.

 

[Ateron]

You literally just made shit up in your own head then got angry about it. They said the WItcher 3 may not run 1080p on either console, that statement does not mean the XB1 and the PS4 version will be identical (but its pretty fucking comical that you jump to that conclusion).

On top of that my statement was relative to PC. And just like the PS4 is objectively more powerful than the XB1, a modern gaming PC is objectively more powerful than a PS4. So for a game whose lead platform is PC, it makes sense that resolution and/or other visual effects are going to be reduced to run on other platforms.

Who the hell is talking about pc? Are you seriously implying that a good pc will run laps around the ps4??? Preposterous.

I was talking about perceived differences between both consoles (which actually is the subject of this thread, not pc vs console bs): there has to be some. The way you phrased your post seemed to imply that there isn't that much of a difference between them. You were responding to someone who posted how easier it is to believe in parity conspiracies and Evil MS being evil, rather than ps4 not being that strong in the first place. So, if the ps4 is having the best console multiplat versions so far, 90% of the time, it has to be a little more powerful right? If other devs don't care for parity, why should CDP?

Couldn't give a shit about the spoiler part, pc isn't called into this. So, I meant what I said: every game so far has had differences. Why should this one be different? (I believe it will run better).

 

[Caayn]

Who the hell is talking about pc? Are you seriously implying that a good pc will run laps around the ps4??? Preposterous.

I was talking about perceived differences between both consoles (which actually is the subject of this thread, not pc vs console bs): there has to be some. The way you phrased your post seemed to imply that there isn't that much of a difference between them. You were responding to someone who posted how easier it is to believe in parity conspiracies and Evil MS being evil, rather than ps4 not being that strong in the first place. So, if the ps4 is having the best console multiplat versions so far, 90% of the time, it has to be a little more powerful right? If other devs don't care for parity, why should CDP?

Couldn't give a shit about the spoiler part, pc isn't called into this. So, I meant what I said: every game so far has had differences. Why should this one be different? (I believe it will run better).

Just because the PS4 version isn't running at 1080p doesn't automatically mean that it's equal to the Xbox One version. For the thousandth time resolution isn't the only metric that defines a games visuals. And even if both games are running at the same resolution there are still plenty of things that could be different, just look at the games that are running at the same resolution on the current-gen consoles like Tomb Raider for example and plenty of EA games there are plenty of differences between the two to be spotted that make up the power gap.

But yeah let's start making up conspiracy theories about parity, great idea!

 

[cheezcake]

Who the hell is talking about pc? Are you seriously implying that a good pc will run laps around the ps4??? Preposterous.

I was talking about perceived differences between both consoles (which actually is the subject of this thread, not pc vs console bs): there has to be some. The way you phrased your post seemed to imply that there isn't that much of a difference between them. You were responding to someone who posted how easier it is to believe in parity conspiracies and Evil MS being evil, rather than ps4 not being that strong in the first place. So, if the ps4 is having the best console multiplat versions so far, 90% of the time, it has to be a little more powerful right? If other devs don't care for parity, why should CDP?

Couldn't give a shit about the spoiler part, pc isn't called into this. So, I meant what I said: every game so far has had differences. Why should this one be different? (I believe it will run better).

The fuck? "Who the hell is talking about PC?" "BTW I'm gonna ignore the part of your post which talks about PC"

And this thread isn't about differences between the PS4 and XB1. Literally the only statement made by the devs is that it may not be 1080p on consoles. There is no PS4 vs XB1 comparison in there. There is no talk about parity. How you don't understand this is pretty astonishing.

 

[OverturePT]

Who the hell is talking about pc? Are you seriously implying that a good pc will run laps around the ps4??? Preposterous.

I was talking about perceived differences between both consoles (which actually is the subject of this thread, not pc vs console bs): there has to be some. The way you phrased your post seemed to imply that there isn't that much of a difference between them. You were responding to someone who posted how easier it is to believe in parity conspiracies and Evil MS being evil, rather than ps4 not being that strong in the first place. So, if the ps4 is having the best console multiplat versions so far, 90% of the time, it has to be a little more powerful right? If other devs don't care for parity, why should CDP?

Couldn't give a shit about the spoiler part, pc isn't called into this. So, I meant what I said: every game so far has had differences. Why should this one be different? (I believe it will run better).

Well, he did say

They said the WItcher 3 may not run 1080p on either console, that statement does not mean the XB1 and the PS4 version will be identical

but you seemed to miss it. No one is saying the PS4 isn't more powerful, but not doing 1080p doesn't mean it won't have a few more effects than the Xbox One version, for example. Also, just because the Xbox version of the game can (who knows anyway) pull 900p doesn't mean that the PS4 automatically can do 1080p just because other games do it. Doesn't really work that way, different games, different situations. Maybe the PS4 can be more stable, maintain 30fps all the time and the Xbox version not. Maybe the PS4 version has more AA, etc, etc. Lots of reasons why both of the versions might be the same resolution.

 

[Ateron]

The fuck? "Who the hell is talking about PC?" "BTW I'm gonna ignore the part of your post which talks about PC"

And this thread isn't about differences between the PS4 and XB1. Literally the only statement made by the devs is that it may not be 1080p on consoles. There is no PS4 vs XB1 comparison in there. There is no talk about parity. How you don't understand this is pretty astonishing.

They said X1 was already running at 900p. If it can do it, why can't ps4 run at 1080p? There have been bigger gaps already in other less demanding cross-gen games. I feel we're both misunderstanding each other here (i'm in bed with a flu so it might be me). I don't think there will be parity, for what is worth. I would rather both versions have same effects and AA, with the ps4 achieving the native resolution of my tv than having better shadows or AA and ending up being 900p. It's not the end of the world, it still looks very good. It's just that whenever I play AC IV and WatchDogs, I can tell the latter is blurry.

I think resolution is more important, but it's just my opinion and I'm not arguing the validity of other opinions out there. If CDP thinks that the only way to have a more stable framerate is to lock it down to 900p, so be it. What makes me confused is that the X1 will rock 900p as well, so the culprits here are the effects/shadows or something. Like I said, I would prefer "parity" on the effects but not on resolution. Ps4 isn't so strong that it can be better on both effects AND res at the same time. They probably prefer AA and shadows, I would have prefered res.


Sorry if I was a bit blunt, I'm just trying to distract myself and I'm a little angry (been in bed with flu since yesterday :/ )

 

[Pseudo judo]

It wasn't just implied back then, it was confirmed by the executive producer: https://twitter.com/MackDoughal/status/479916121966252032

Also, it doesn't make sence that they still aren't able to say what the final resolution will be. How is it that games like The Order, Driveclub and Shadows of Mordor have their final resolution set months before release?

Are they backpedalling because of the MS deal?

I actually laughed out loud.

You know, it could be exactly like the the devs said, they're just optimizing the game and trying to find the balance between resolution and frame rate.

If both X1 and PS4 versions of the game were 900P Sony GAF would have a total meltdown. The thought of it makes me smile, I'm not gonna lie.

 

[Gavin996]

I actually laughed out loud.

You know, it could be exactly like the the devs said, they're just optimizing the game and trying to find the balance between resolution and frame rate.

If both X1 and PS4 versions of the game were 900P Sony GAF would have a total meltdown. The thought of it makes me smile, I'm not gonna lie.

Now I'm actually laughing out loud.

 

[SapientWolf]

If they actually think that 900p is the best compromise between visuals and IQ then it would make sense for both platforms to be at that resolution. But the PS4 port should still have higher graphical settings.

However, I think Sony is going to pressure them to bump it up to full HD, because while graphical settings are hard to compare, 900p vs 1080p is simple math. It makes their version look much better on paper.