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The worst Mario platformer is ______ ?
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Stallion Dan
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SMB2.
Though the NSMB series hasn't been much to shout about.
Edit: oh yeah Sunshine. That is worst.
Though the NSMB series hasn't been much to shout about.
Edit: oh yeah Sunshine. That is worst.
ThatStupidLion
Member
super paper mario
also, i'd pick one from the nsmb line
also, i'd pick one from the nsmb line
new super Mario Bros for ds
Every so often, a 1st post REALLY nails it.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Pure garbage.
Boy Wander
Member
Cheat Code
Member
I also hate Sunshine but I thought that'd get me shot.
mrmickfran
Member
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I think it's pretty fair, really. Certainly challenging in ways the series never was again, but fair.
captmcblack
Member
Worst? It was New Super Mario Bros 2.
Every one of the Mario platformers, even the mediocre ones, had a reason to exist - Super Mario Land was his first Game Boy adventure, Mario Land 2 was a massive upgrade from the first one, Mario Sunshine was the long-awaited second 3D game and first for GameCube, New Super Mario Bros DS was the first 2D game in decades - but NSMB2 didn't have any reason to exist.
It wasn't an upgrade from NSMB Wii, NSMB U was just about to release, and 3D Land existed already. It was tired/washed up even before it released...which sucks, because it's not a bad game.
Every one of the Mario platformers, even the mediocre ones, had a reason to exist - Super Mario Land was his first Game Boy adventure, Mario Land 2 was a massive upgrade from the first one, Mario Sunshine was the long-awaited second 3D game and first for GameCube, New Super Mario Bros DS was the first 2D game in decades - but NSMB2 didn't have any reason to exist.
It wasn't an upgrade from NSMB Wii, NSMB U was just about to release, and 3D Land existed already. It was tired/washed up even before it released...which sucks, because it's not a bad game.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
definitely new super mario bros 2!
I wasn't a big fan of 3d land either (but i loved 3d world)
I wasn't a big fan of 3d land either (but i loved 3d world)
Sir_Crocodile
Member
NSMB DS
Looks ugly, didn't like how the new shell power up worked, lacked variety.
Looks ugly, didn't like how the new shell power up worked, lacked variety.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Yeah, I just find that in so many ways it's by far the most inconsequential to the series.
Sure New Super Mario Bros. DS isn't the best game, but it paved the way for Wii, U, and Luigi U which improved on it (even if the latter games were stale aesthetically).
Sunshine wasn't perfect, but at least it took risks, is worth revisiting, and had a lasting impact on the series (introducing Piantas, Bowser Jr., following up on E. Gadd's introduction in Luigi's Mansion...).
New Super Mario Bros. 2 just exists. No real lasting impact or legacy.
GurgleBot20
Member
The "new" games are fine. They're incredibly boring aesthetically, but they control well and occasionally have some great level design, more so in the console games than the handheld ones.
The 2 land games on Gameboy don't have the polish when it comes to movement/physics, but they feel really unique and the environments are so different from what you'd expect from a Mario game so the games have a charm that the others don't.
I still love Super Mario Bros 1, but it was kinda limited, so pushing what that game could do past it's limits would only lead to a mess like with Lost Levels.
Super Mario Sunshine is such a frustrating chore. The attempts to pad out the length/content of the game are not even well hidden, and is one of the few instances of where the level designers were fine with blatant trial and error levels. It's one of the few examples of a game where they get the movement and controls right, but mess up the level design throughout.
The 2 land games on Gameboy don't have the polish when it comes to movement/physics, but they feel really unique and the environments are so different from what you'd expect from a Mario game so the games have a charm that the others don't.
I still love Super Mario Bros 1, but it was kinda limited, so pushing what that game could do past it's limits would only lead to a mess like with Lost Levels.
Super Mario Sunshine is such a frustrating chore. The attempts to pad out the length/content of the game are not even well hidden, and is one of the few instances of where the level designers were fine with blatant trial and error levels. It's one of the few examples of a game where they get the movement and controls right, but mess up the level design throughout.
It's a toss up between one of these
Same for me. I really don't like either of these
Granted, at least they paved the way for better games in their respective subseries.
Lunarwhale
Member
Super Mario Land is bad. Played through it with a fair amount of nostalgia a few years ago and could barely stand it.
Tried playing through Sunshine again not long after and thought it was bizarrely insufferable, but I really can't emphasize why I didn't enjoy it.
Tried playing through Sunshine again not long after and thought it was bizarrely insufferable, but I really can't emphasize why I didn't enjoy it.
Strangelove77
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new super Mario Bros for ds
agreed.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
This, and it looks like a cheap MS-DOS game.
TannerDemoz
Member
Oi
JershJopstin
Banned
For 2D, I've played the original 3, World, NSMB and Wii. I've played every 3D one. For me, I'd say it's a tossup between 64 and NSMB. I can't really remember 2 well enough to comment (but maybe that says a lot on its own).
Sunshine hate is popular ̶a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ anywhere. Personally, I had way more fun just controlling Mario in Sunshine than any other game. Those controls were tight.
Too many positive Nintendo threads, lets balance this somehow.
NSMB2 was just a fucking chore to play. Only reason I forced myself to complete it is was because 3ds was the only working console I had access to for most of 2012 and there was just so little worth playing on it. Never played the DS NSMB but I find it really hard to believe that it can somehow be even more bland and boring. Maybe on par at worst.
Though if Yoshi's New Island and Wolly World 3ds count as Mario games I'd put those even below NSMB2. Only manged to get part way through the second world in both of them before giving up out of sheer boredom.
Though if Yoshi's New Island and Wolly World 3ds count as Mario games I'd put those even below NSMB2. Only manged to get part way through the second world in both of them before giving up out of sheer boredom.
motherxwolf
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I was not aware that people didn't like Mario land 2, I loved it when I was young. My vote goes to nsmb 2 D's. That game was lame
You're crazy.
Land 2 feels like a Mario game. Land 1 feels like one of those games you'd play on your Texas Instruments Graphing Calculators during study hall
Wet Bloodfart
Banned
Hm. I played the crap out of NSMB and NSMB2 despite me knowing they weren't the best. To be honest, I didn't enjoy 3D Land.
Land 2 feels like a ROM hack of a Mario game. Except they didn't make it better.
Graphically Land 1 isn't something to marvel at, but it plays better than Land 2.
Its Super Mario Sunshine.
The game has interesting locales, npcs and music, but most of the actual levels suck. The best levels are the ones that strip you out of the game's main mechanic, the F.L.U.D.D its where the platforming works best.
The level that works the best with the F.L.U.D.D mechanic is the Sand bird one with the 8 red coins, due to trying to use the F.L.U.D.D mechanics at the best of your ability to get the coins in time and without falling off.
Sunshine just had too much padding too, with the blue coins, and while some levels look like they could be really interesting (the amusement park one) they usually just end up being really boring.
It also has absolutely the worst final level in any of the mario platforming games I've played. That boat ride is the woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The game has interesting locales, npcs and music, but most of the actual levels suck. The best levels are the ones that strip you out of the game's main mechanic, the F.L.U.D.D its where the platforming works best.
The level that works the best with the F.L.U.D.D mechanic is the Sand bird one with the 8 red coins, due to trying to use the F.L.U.D.D mechanics at the best of your ability to get the coins in time and without falling off.
Sunshine just had too much padding too, with the blue coins, and while some levels look like they could be really interesting (the amusement park one) they usually just end up being really boring.
It also has absolutely the worst final level in any of the mario platforming games I've played. That boat ride is the woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Alex_Mexico
Member
The absolute worst? Its between Super Mario Bros 2 (JP) The Lost Levels (aka Mario The ROM Hack) or Super Mario Land 1. But I'd probably go with the original Famicom Disk System SMB2 which made you beat the game 8 times if you wanted to access the additional 4 extra worlds (A to D)... the All-Stars version made it more palatable but still bad.
Of the 3D ones its Sunshine.
Of the 3D ones its Sunshine.
visiblemode
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And the winner is: this answer.
-Mutsukki-
Member
This.
And it's still not a bad game, but it is the absolute blandest point in the series
MarmiteBadger
Member
I agree, felt like Mario 64 with Nerf Super Soaker. Nothing that kept me playing.
I like the rest, did not like Super Mario 2. As kid I remember sitting on my bean bag chair confused as to why I had to pick who I wanted to play and that there was no goomba's and koopa troopa's.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Does the original Super Mario (not bros.) count?
If not, Mario 2.
If not, Mario 2.
