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There's absolutely no chance that Sony would ever make a Demon's Souls 2 (right?)
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Hydrargyrus
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No, came on. I'm talking about making a true Demon's Souls, with all its points, but made by a top notch team from Sony WW studios.
I've said Santa Monica because I'm starting to get tired about the GOW series and they could fit in that type of game, but I don't care if it's done by Sony's Japan Studio
Nailed it.
Its a playstation exclusive.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
It´s Yoshida´s fault.
Moral Panic
Member
I don't think DeSouls 2 will ever come out. Sony "owns" the ip, but let's be realistic - theres no way Sony will screw over FROM and by association, Namco Bandai over a franchise they never expected to go anywhere in the first place.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Working with FROM software to make a Demon Souls 2 would be a good idea.
Sentenza
Member
Misplaced brand loyalty, I guess.
Sony people who want their exclusive Sony franchises and being surrounded just by Sony things and their Sony-oriented friends.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I can't see both Dark and Demons Souls being continued. Would feel extremely weird because puting aside a few difference here and there Dark Souls already is the direct sequel. Having both series running at the same time would make no sense at all.
Those were a partnership between Sony and Vivendi/Universal, Vivendi owned the character rights and then they were bought out by Activision. Sony's partnership ended after the run of titles on the PS1.
catashtrophe
Member
Oh hell no, i don't want platinum anywhere near a Demons Souls 2
Valkyria
Banned
Better to play more games, no?
I actually don't get why people hates that people want a game to be made and claiming fanboyism out of it. Actually I think that it's projecting their selfs into others.
No; they never sold those IPs to Activision since Sony never owned them to begin with. Vivendi-Universal always owned them, as they were created on the Universal Studios backlot. Sony acted as the publisher and took care of the marketing, but that was it.
Jawmuncher
Member
This seems like the smartest move to me. Let dark souls have the reign on consoles while demons does its own thing on vita
DS is basically DeS2. If they wanted it to have a hub and an atmosphere similar to DeS, they would have done it. Evidently, they wanted the series to go in a slightly different direction. It happens with sequels.
Backfoggen
Banned
I want the Nexus and world tendency back so hard.
Valkyria
Banned
So your point is... I don't want to pay for a Sony console so there should not be a Demon's Soul 2?
Where do you even get that from his post lol
Jawmuncher
Member
This has to be sarcasm it has to be.
More game likes demons/dark even if not by from soft is a good thing. Since its not a type of common game anyway.
From Software/Platinum collaboration. I would sell my soul to play this game.
How could you possibly have got that out of what he said?
Or it could be, and I know I'm talking crazy talk here, that perhaps the people that enjoyed Demon's Souls enjoyed it not just for the game play, but for the interesting universe and setting, and the lore that surrounds that awesome game play, and they want more of it. I know! Crazy, right?
Not everything is console wars bullshit.
I love both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, but I personally find the Demon's Souls universe more interesting. Considering how there aren't that many type of games in the genre, having two franchises bringing this type of game out on a consistent basis is fantastic to me.
Nothing is stopping Namco/From from producing more Dark Souls (duh, since Dark Souls 2 is coming out), and nothing is stopping Sony/From from producing Demon's Souls 2. I think From is two teams now, so it's more than possible. Sony and From seem to have good relations, as does Sony and Namco.
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are both lucrative franchises. I can see Sony launching the series again on the PS4 as a tentpole for early PS4 life.
Valkyria
Banned
Actually I got it form yours too. You know, sometimes the meaning lies under the words, call me a wizard or something ¬_¬ .
Umm...I could literally care less if Demon's Souls 2 was made or not. But it's really obvious why some people want it made.
It becomes even funnier when I want the PS4 as my first next gen console. Your wizard magic seems off.
giancarlo123x
Banned
It would be cool if they made Demon Souls 2 a Vita game and kept the Dark games multiplat.
There is zero chance.
Demon's Souls is way better than Dark Souls,Dark was a huge let down,unbalanced soulless mess and has too many flaws.
Demon's Souls is way better than Dark Souls,Dark was a huge let down,unbalanced soulless mess and has too many flaws.
Was just about to suggest that.
TizioVerde
Neo Member
Sony WAS involved in the developement of Demon's Souls.
Actually i'm pretty sure that it's awesome grotesque atmosphere (which far surpass the one of the sequel) is the result of the collaboration with SCE Japan Studio.
That's why i'd love to see the series becoming a Sony exclusive again.
Actually i'm pretty sure that it's awesome grotesque atmosphere (which far surpass the one of the sequel) is the result of the collaboration with SCE Japan Studio.
That's why i'd love to see the series becoming a Sony exclusive again.
SCEJ did actually have a decent bit of staff helping with the game. Miyazaki and other FROM employees did the majority of the gameplay and art design, which is a huge part of what makes Demon's Souls the game it is, but SCEJ was legitimately involved in it's creation, especially Takeshi Kajii.
Why? FROM was contracted by Namco Bandai to make Dark Souls, just like Demon's Souls for Sony. FROM doesn't own the IP and they have no real interest in the IP's future if they aren't directly involved with it.
I'd argue that FROM's future Souls efforts are likely more tied to who between Sony and Namco Bandai are more willing to write the biggest up front guarantee, with target platform or platforms being completely irrelevant.
Clashing is only relevant with regards to how Namco Bandai feels, but yes, it would be the least contentious path.
1. FROM didn't have "multipatform success". They contracted a title to Namco Bandai and delivered it, what Namco Bandai did with it beyond there has limited effect on FROM. 2. Namco doesn't own FROM and traditionally FROM has had far better relations with Sony than any other publisher they've worked with. 3. Sony has said they would be open to finding a way to bring the IP back.
So answered and the final conclusion is...Sure we'll see Demon's Souls 2, if Sony decides to pay FROM for it.
You can take 99 of every healing item in Demons Souls, what an unbalanced mess!
Ridiculous hyperbole from Souls hipsters once again.
Flachmatuch
Member
Are you *seriously* comparing Sony Santa Monica to From? I mean, I know people love to overvalue Sony games and think GoW (and UC (although ND actually are great)) are actually comparable to developers with real history and talent, but this is just way too much. WTF.
Thanks for the info.
Are we talking talent-wise, commercially...what? Because From certainly hasn't shown this gen, at least, I played through one of the King's Field games but didn't really like it, that it can write an efficient engine. Chug-city choo choo.
StoppedInTracks
Member
You have Demon's Souls 2 released and Demon's Souls 3 to be released this year yet you ask for some imaginary Demon's Souls 2 "exclusive" to Sony consoles.
Okay.
I hope they make one, Vita only (no PS3 version), just for you OP.
Okay.
I hope they make one, Vita only (no PS3 version), just for you OP.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Demon's Soul sequel on Vita
Believe
Sony would never make it on their own, and Dark Souls is worth more money to From at the moment.
No other developer could even build a sequel from the ground up, the gameplay systems would be very hard to authentically emulate.
Only chance of Demon Souls 2 would be Sony paying From Software a huge amount of money to make it lucrative enough for them to do a exclusive PS4 version.
And lets be real I do not see that happening and From wouldn't want to hurt their relationship with Bandai Namco. Lets not forget Sony screwed them over by refusing to publish Demons Souls in the west.
No other developer could even build a sequel from the ground up, the gameplay systems would be very hard to authentically emulate.
Only chance of Demon Souls 2 would be Sony paying From Software a huge amount of money to make it lucrative enough for them to do a exclusive PS4 version.
And lets be real I do not see that happening and From wouldn't want to hurt their relationship with Bandai Namco. Lets not forget Sony screwed them over by refusing to publish Demons Souls in the west.
1. Dark Souls sold much better than Demon's. Not much else to say.
2. Maybe, but they're doing good with Namco and Namco would likely influence them to stay.
3. Talk is cheap.
nailbombxx
Member
If they were going to make a Demon's Souls 2, they would have done it after the huge success of Dark Souls.
It would be a pretty slimy thing to do.
It would be a pretty slimy thing to do.
Armored Core 15. Actually, I dunno, but he has directed Armored Core before. It'd be weird if they were working on two Souls games at the same time.
Wouldn't Namco be able to pay them more money because they can expect higher revenues? I just don't see how Sony could compete when Namco knows they have both a huge hit on their hands and a much larger market they can go after.
Either way, From Software should really focus on making the Otogi spiritual successor.
This is by far my favorite post in the thread.
Dark Souls is Demon's Souls 2. But it might be a good idea for From to work with Sony to make a legitimate "Demon's Souls 2" during the downtime from Dark Souls 2. But for consumers, really, how would it be any different? Too many games and their likely to start getting stale. I love the Souls series like the rest of you, but too many games might be a bad thing.
Now, Demon's Souls PSV or Demon's Souls episodic material for PS4 PSN might be a good idea (especially the later. Get a new level each month, and you can access them all in a Nexus like area? Might be a good idea).
Now, Demon's Souls PSV or Demon's Souls episodic material for PS4 PSN might be a good idea (especially the later. Get a new level each month, and you can access them all in a Nexus like area? Might be a good idea).
Flachmatuch
Member
Talent wise, obviously. They're not even comparable. I don't really care about "efficient engines". I like their games, from MWC through the Otogis and AC to Kuri Kuri Mix. Just comparing these games with the studio who only ever made the generic, shallow, spectacle-oriented, milked-to-death, AAAAAAAAAAAAAA bullshit GoW series is a big wtf. I would accept if From games were platform exclusive but the talent in the Souls stuff is clearly theirs.
I don't see why Sony needs From Software to make a Demon's Souls 2. Granted it won't be "authentic" or what have you, but it doesn't mean it can't be a good game. And it's not like they'd be missing out on the Dark Souls series either.
At the very least there is clearly a market for the DS style gameplay, so all Sony has to do is make a game of the same style.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I think From would rather publish and work on their own IPs.
gioGAF
Member
Hard to believe how stupid Sony was with the Demon's Souls IP. They chose to publish garbage like White Knight Chronicles instead. Then SCAMCO stepped in and the rest is history.
Those of us who wish for a sequel can always dream that Miyazaki is currently hard at work on it ;-)
Btw, a portable version would be the worst thing that could happen. A port to PSV is one thing, but to have the series move to a portable format would be horrible, I would rather not have a sequel.
Those of us who wish for a sequel can always dream that Miyazaki is currently hard at work on it ;-)
Btw, a portable version would be the worst thing that could happen. A port to PSV is one thing, but to have the series move to a portable format would be horrible, I would rather not have a sequel.
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