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There's this Marvel Assembling a Universe thing on ABC right now

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Loeb! Or the other hack Millar
 
It is. And it is more proof as to why the Ultimate Universe sucks.

Reading through Ultimate Spider-Man now, and I respectfully disagree.

At least for that series. I started Ultimate X-Men and it was the most boring/poorly written high-profile comic I've read in a while. But apparently it gets better?
 
Loeb deftly illustrating Cap's predicament of being a man out of time by his bewilderment at our present day acceptance of siblings fucking each other is Eisner worthy writing.
 
Reading through Ultimate Spider-Man now, and I respectfully disagree.

At least for that series. I started Ultimate X-Men and it was the most boring/poorly written high-profile comic I've read in a while. But apparently it gets better?

Ultimate Spider-Man is the only exception. That was good. Everything else Ultimate sucked.
 
The two films have very different takes on Quicksilver and are using him in very different contexts, so while I agree the MCU design holds up better on its own merits, I really think the comparison is overblown.

Not that Singer didn't invite it, mind you.

dat rational post. starlord concept art looks great.
 
Man, I am surprised they let a detail like Hulkbuster out so early, but I am glad that I will be able to see it in film.

If Hot Toys makes a 1/6 scale of that it would be near 2 feet tall if those proportions from the art are fairly final.
 
Maybe you accidentally looked into the Marvel Zombies universe?

Nah, it was Ultimate, I was just exaggerating.

I mean, at first it was just Hulk. Then Wolverine kinda was showing some hints of it. Then Blob.

Then even Hank Pym was biting off heads. It was kinda ridiculous. I was half expecting Captain America to start gnawing on the occasional bad guy by the end.
 
Do I dare ask the context?

So Millar's take on the Avengers in the Ultimate universe was The Ultimates, basically an edgier version of the Avengers. (This, by the way, is the first place the Sam Jackson version of Nick Fury showed up.) Everyone was more "flawed", which I'm sure Millar thought made everything more realistic, but mostly he just made people look like bigger assholes. Stark was a bigger asshole, Cap was a bigger asshole, Pym was way more abusive, Hulk was more violent, etc. Part of this was that when Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were introduced, there were some... let's call it undertones or implications that their relationship might be weird or incestuous.

People were kind of split on Ultimates under Millar. I ended up really liking it, others didn't.

Then in Ultimates volume 3, Jeph Loeb came along. Jeph Loeb lacks anything resembling subtlety, and his execution is way worse, so he did dumb stuff like acting as though Cap was an old fashioned fuddy-duddy for not hopping on the okay-with-incest train. Say what you will about Millar's Ultimates, Loeb took the stupidity up another six notches.
 
Quicksilver will have been in two films (albeit in two unrelated universes) before the Flash will have been in one*.

Unless you count the Lego Movie, lol.
 
Loeb! Or the other hack Millar

Millar had a pretty great run when the Ultimates first started out, Loeb took the comic over and just shit all over everything. By the time Millar came back he had gotten a serious came of Loebitis and came up with mind numbingly stupid storylines such as a clone of Bruce Banner called "Nerd Hulk" being captured and turned by vampires while going out to get comics signed by Mark Millar. The super soldier serum inside Captain America also reversed his vampirism because his healing factor can do that. Steve Dillon's crappy art during the storyline also led to some very homoerotic imagery:
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Mark Millar is an idiot, and it's obvious to anyone familiar with his body of work as a whole that his early work on The Ultimates was a fluke.
 
Shit. I made a joke earlier in this thread about everyone being a cannibal and half-expecting Cap to start gnawing on people.

It was a joke!

I take it back!

Nooooooooooo.... why do I keep making dumb jokes that then turn out real and-

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Millar had a pretty great run when the Ultimates first started out, Loeb took the comic over and just shit all over everything. By the time Millar came back he had gotten a serious came of Loebitis and came up with mind numbingly stupid storylines such as a clone of Bruce Banner called "Nerd Hulk" being captured and turned by vampires while going out to get comics signed by Mark Millar. The super soldier serum inside Captain America also reversed his vampirism because his healing factor can do that. Steve Dillon's crappy art during the storyline also led to some very homoerotic imagery:
Wow.
 
i swear, every time i see steve dillon art, i see kingpin and that straight face during that rape scene
 
The special was better than I thought, but I'd still prefer a new SHIELD episode.

At least Loeb only appeared once for a few seconds.
 
That GOTG concept art has me excited. They are fucking nailing the look of it! This could be the Star Wars of this generation. Not even joking.
 
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