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this guy claimed a $300k house for $16

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They called the cops not because it was the right thing to do, but just 'cause they was jealous of all the money he was makin
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Angry Grimace said:
That's just because the circumstances surrounding the disposition of it are unusual; but needless to say, it's not going to take a decade to work itself out.

i dont know law well enough to argue with you and you seem to have this concept well in hand. however this comment makes me think you are underestimating the clusterfuck that is the paperwork on a lot of homes bought in the mid-2000s. im not saying this specific situation wont work itself out, but there are likely to be instances where people get to stay in houses they havent paid off because the mortgage is assigned incorrectly, who has the right to foreclose is unclear, or the paperwork is lost.
 
Question: If the trespasser was white instead of black, would GAF have the same reaction?
 
Enron said:
And rightly so. Most people have nearly their entire financial well-being staked on their home.
people who forget that every investment is a gamble no matter how 'safe' its supposed to be deserve what happens to them when things go wrong.
 
arglebargle said:
i dont know law well enough to argue with you and you seem to have this concept well in hand. however this comment makes me think you are underestimating the clusterfuck that is the paperwork on a lot of homes bought in the mid-2000s. im not saying this specific situation wont work itself out, but there are likely to be instances where people get to stay in houses they havent paid off because the mortgage is assigned incorrectly, who has the right to foreclose is unclear, or the paperwork is lost.
He wouldn't get the property even if it took 20 years. Courts haven't enforced bad faith adverse possession claims in decades. It just doesn't happen.
 
Angry Grimace said:
He wouldn't get the property even if it took 20 years. Courts haven't enforced bad faith adverse possession claims in decades. It just doesn't happen.

im ignorant, so help please: what is an example of non-bad faith (good faith i guess youd call it) adverse possession? homesteading?
 
Bboy AJ said:
Question: If the trespasser was white instead of black, would GAF have the same reaction?
I'd have a lot more to say about it, but already the perception in this topic is that the neighbors and any dissenters are probably racist, so I think it unwise to argue.
 
Bboy AJ said:
Question: If the trespasser was white instead of black, would GAF have the same reaction?

There would be fewer claims of racism when someone admits they would feel uncomfortable if this happened near them.
 
arglebargle said:
im ignorant, so help please: what is an example of non-bad faith (good faith i guess youd call it) adverse possession? homesteading?



probably the example he gave earlier about a long standing mutual misunderstanding of property lines between neighbors.
 
I would be mad too. here I am struggling to pay my bills for my home and this guy just walks right in and gets a 300k home for 16 bucks. But then again 2 years no power or water or AC, he won't be there for long.
 
Would the neighbors rather have the house fall in to disrepair and drag the mortgage value of the rest of the houses on the street down with it?
 
levious said:
probably the example he gave earlier about a long standing mutual misunderstanding of property lines between neighbors.

my mistake i read the first couple pages of the thread then skipped ahead so i missed that. nothing on this scale though?
 
Bboy AJ said:
Question: If the trespasser was white instead of black, would GAF have the same reaction?

Yes, because a squatter is a squatter. People that are championing this guy are insane.

A question I would pose to you is: if the trespasser was white instead of black would this thread filled with "racist" and "salty" allegations like this one has?
 
Angry Grimace said:
I'm thinking about specializing in space law
Might as well brush up on ape law while you're at it. You know...just in case...

alterno69 said:
I think a more interesting question is..

What would Gaf say if the trespasser was a rich guy regardless of race?
Buy the house the right way, asshole. Stop fucking with my property values.
 
alterno69 said:
I think a more interesting question is..

What would Gaf say if the trespasser was a rich guy regardless of race?

I'd probably find that humorous. I don't care if that makes me a hypocrite.
 
confused said:
Who owns the moon ? Is it mine to claim if I live there for 3 years ?

It would be an extremely stupid fiscal decision for consumers to collectively make that any capital or resource that lacks ownership permanently lacks ownership. And btw if you did live on the moon for 3 years, I think that region you lived on should become your property (not the entire thing obviously cuz you only live in a certain part of it). I mean how else would anyone come to own anything?
 
The people championing the squatter seem like they're giving white guilt responses.
 
A lot of people who are congratulating him seem to be under the mistaken impression that this guy found some sweet loophole and it worked. Really, this is a scam, and it won't work.

The neighbors seem to be overreacting, but I would not want this shit in my neighborhood, either. There is a vacant house next to mine, and if there were squatters, I would absolutely call the police.
 
Cat Party said:
A lot of people who are congratulating him seem to be under the mistaken impression that this guy found some sweet loophole and it worked. Really, this is a scam, and it won't work.

The neighbors seem to be overreacting, but I would not want this shit in my neighborhood, either. There is a vacant house next to mine, and if there were squatters, I would absolutely call the police.
Racist.
 
arglebargle said:
im ignorant, so help please: what is an example of non-bad faith (good faith i guess youd call it) adverse possession? homesteading?
The most common example would be where your fence is on the wrong spot; this happens when there's confusion regarding where the actual property boundaries are.

(convoluted example edited for brevity and confusion)
 
HammerOfThor said:
Why cant houses be that cheap in the Chicago-land area >:[

I'm looking at around $600,000-$1,000,000 for the like

I will never again complain about house prices in Toronto. But are the houses worth that much?

Also, what are the chances that the guy gets to keep the house?
 
Perhaps this has been discussed already, but from a quick perusal of Texas' AP law, it appears as if the guy should have to live there continuously for a 10 year period before he can petition the court for title to the property, as the 10-year period is the only one that will recognize AP without color of title. I'm pretty sure that filing an affidavit of adverse possession does not satisfy the color of title requirement.
 
After watching the video i think I agree with the neighbors. What hes doing might be legal but it doesn't make it right. Somebody is owed a great deal of money for that house and this guy is basically squatting there, decreasing the value and making it impossible to sell
 
i think you missed the point that the original owner foreclosed and the mortgage company closed down, effectively leaving the house as abandoned with no 'owners'.
 
Grimace straight up lawyered up this thread and owned it. If you don't agree with what he's saying, you're probably not reading carefully enough.
 
SiteSeer said:
i think you missed the point that the original owner foreclosed and the mortgage company closed down, effectively leaving the house as abandoned with no 'owners'.
Just because the mortgage company shut down doesn't mean all it's debts magically disappear. It's assets (this house for example) will be sold to recover some of the debts owed. That can't happen until douchbag squatter guy is removed and his mess is cleaned up
 
Angry Grimace said:
You are a trespasser if you step foot on land you don't have rights to be on (the intent is merely the intent to enter the land, not to do so wrongfully). What you're talking about is having a revoked license to remain.

No, this is wrong.

You only lose your right if youre asked to leave and dont.
 
mre said:
Perhaps this has been discussed already, but from a quick perusal of Texas' AP law, it appears as if the guy should have to live there continuously for a 10 year period before he can petition the court for title to the property, as the 10-year period is the only one that will recognize AP without color of title. I'm pretty sure that filing an affidavit of adverse possession does not satisfy the color of title requirement.

Angry Grimace has said this multiple times, but people either aren't seeing it or just don't care.
 
Zoe said:
Angry Grimace has said this multiple times, but people either aren't seeing it or just don't care.

There is alot of people here that actually don't read other people's posts. It is really apparent in this thread. Angry Grimace has pretty much laid out why this won't happen, and yet people keep squawking like fucking parrots and just repeating the same shit over and over.
 
The Faceless Master said:
there would be more people on his side. have you NOT seen the typical threads involving black people on GAF?

Yeah right, go see any other thread regarding squatters. People hate squatters no matter what color their skin is. And this guy is nothing more than a squatter.
 
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