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[Lightning Count]

Just watching the news and 44 cats were poisoned on two streets in Boston (UK), even in the small town I live in it has become a big problem, with quite a few cats having died in this manner and recently the local paper ran an article giving advice on how to spot the symptoms and the type of poisons likely to be used in these cases.

My own brother noted a problematic neighbour in this regard, they were spotted laying down smashed pieces of glass around their garden area and spraying an as yet unidentified chemical on surrounding ground and foliage.

This is becoming a concern for me as I have two cats, one fully grown female tabby and a four month old kitten, the older cat regularly spends time outdoors and the kitten is getting more adventurous every day and is beginning to want to venture beyond the garden.

 

[Carl]

You're from Boston?!

Edit: misread, lol. I am from Boston and not heard anything about this

 

[texhnolyze]

So disgraceful.
What's the problem? People hate cats nowadays?

 

[Tenebrous]

What kind of despicable human being would willingly poison a fucking cat...

 

[Lightning Count]

You're from Boston?!

Edit: misread, lol. I am from Boston and not heard anything about this

I'm in Scotland in a small fishing town, but even here this is a real problem with quite a few cases of cat poisoning.

 

[Orbis]

I don't have cats and don't particularly care for them, but from some people's reactions to them entering their gardens you'd think they murdered their families or something.

They're harmless, so what if they shit in your back garden.

 

[Rex Griswold]

I hate cats and the thought of actively killing them is just.. it doesn't even make sense to me.

What does anyone gain from this?

 

[Rocketz]

My dog was positioned about 17 years ago. Terrible thing for people to do.

 

[Mendrox]

We've got the same problem here in Germany just with dogs. More and more dogs get stolen and poisoned. Bastards.

 

[old manatee]

If I found out my neighbor was poisoning cats I would break into their house and poison their food.

 

[Maximo]

So disgraceful.
What's the problem? People hate cats nowadays?

More of a Australian problem but they are considered a huge Pest in Australia, murder a shit ton of local wildlife. Of course poisoning them is not the answer...whoever is doing this is fucked up.

 

[BocoDragon]

I hate cats and the thought of actively killing them is just.. it doesn't even make sense to me.

What does anyone gain from this?

A sick fuck who's probably overreacting about them going in his yard?

 

[Carl]

I'm in Scotland in a small fishing town, but even here this is a real problem with quite a few cases of cat poisoning.

The two sentences ran into eachother as I read, sorry

This is disgusting though how can people poison a poor cat!? There are a lot of cunts in this town but i didn't think it was that bad

 

[Tenebrous]

If I found out my neighbor was poisoning cats I would break into their house and poison their food.

Good for you. Personally, I'd just try and make it a big deal online... I don't care for the life of anyone who's so disgusting towards the life of others, so fuck them, I hope they get hit by a bus.

We've got the same problem here in Germany just with dogs. More and more dogs get stolen and poisoned. Bastards.

I'd seriously kill anyone who tried that with my dog.

 

[cyberheater]

Yeah. Cat poisoning is wrong.

But why do folks have so many of the fucking things. They kill loads of birds and crap in my garden. Fuckers.

On the other hand. I think cats are amazing animals.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

As someone with 4 cats this horrifies me, makes me glad that ours are indoor cats.

Seriously, these days i try to be understanding and think of rehabilitation first but if someone did this to one of my cats i would seriously have to stop myself from doing the same to them.

 

[Piers]

But why do folks have so many of the fucking things. They kill loads of birds and crap in my garden. Fuckers.

This. I bet the elderly are tired of their bird tables and houses going to waste.
Perhaps people today are just very (over?) protective over their property.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

#catlivesmatter

 

[MilkyJoe]

I don't have cats and don't particularly care for them, but from some people's reactions to them entering their gardens you'd think they murdered their families or something.

They're harmless, so what if they shit in your back garden.

They fucking bury it. People that complain about cat shit in their garden are probably finding fox shit.

 

[Sesuadra]

In a town close to mine they catch cats, cut of their tattooed ears and..

Was told they make warmers for back pain out of the fur.

So yes it is also a "trend" in some towns in Germany. Also last week we found a piece of sausage in the forest with a razor blade in it for dogs.

 

[cyberheater]

They fucking bury it. People that complain about cat shit in their garden are probably finding fox shit.

I will do some research. Thanks.

 

[Killer Queen]

So disgraceful.
What's the problem? People hate cats nowadays?

People hate everything nowadays.

 

[antonz]

Poisoning them etc is clearly out of line.

At the same time keep your animal on your own property.

 

[Kup]

I feel guilty having to keep my cat indoors since moving (no garden and busy roads), but at least she is safe from things like this. Awful people.

 

[excowboy]

They're harmless, so what if they shit in your back garden.

It's definitely an inconvenience, and if you have a toddler then it's a real shame not to be able to let them play in your garden without having to watch out for rogue cat poo!

Obviously that doesn't justify poisoning them I think people get to that point because they feel the cat owners are irresponsible and don't care that their animal is ruining someone else's enjoyment of their garden - this is the sentiment I've heard from my Dad at least. I don't imagine you can train a cat not to poop outside though?

 

[Wiktor]

More of a Australian problem but they are considered a huge Pest in Australia, murder a shit ton of local wildlife. Of course poisoning them is not the answer...whoever is doing this is fucked up.

Yes. Poising them is not the answer, because it's too slow. THey're going to use guns to kill 2 million cats instead. They have no choice unfortunatelly. Free roaming cats are terrible for any ecosystem.

 

[jesu]

They fucking bury it. People that complain about cat shit in their garden are probably finding fox shit.

Some of them might.
My cat can't bury shit for shit.She does try though.

 

[Dryk]

I don't imagine you can train a cat not to poop outside though?

Yes poisoning them is not the answer. That said I hate free-roaming cats with a passion, keep your damn pets on your own property.

Not that I hate cats, but cats are a real ecological problem nowadays, doing their own part in fucking up ecosystems all over the world.

On the other hand it's not the cat's fault, they're just doing what cats do. Cat owners on the other hand...

 

[Famassu]

Kind of torn about this. On the other hand, this is obviously 100% wrong to do. On the other, there are less cats around. Not that I hate cats, but cats are a real ecological problem nowadays, doing their own part in fucking up ecosystems all over the world.

 

[MattKeil]

It's definitely an inconvenience, and if you have a toddler then it's a real shame not to be able to let them play in your garden without having to watch out for rogue cat poo!

Obviously that doesn't justify poisoning them I think people get to that point because they feel the cat owners are irresponsible and don't care that their animal is ruining someone else's enjoyment of their garden - this is the sentiment I've heard from my Dad at least. I don't imagine you can train a cat not to poop outside though?

No, but all cats should be kept indoors anyway. An indoor cat has literally triple the life expectancy of an outdoor cat. Letting your cat roam is asking for it to die young.

Kind of torn about this. On the other hand, this is obviously 100% wrong to do. On the other, there are less cats around. Not that I hate cats, but cats are a real ecological problem nowadays, doing their own part in fucking up ecosystems all over the world.

That's not any kind of other hand. A couple dozen cats dying painfully and terrified for reasons they can't understand is not in any way significant in terms of feral cats' ecological impact. Come on.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Some of them might.
My cat can't bury shit for shit.She does try though.

Did you declaw her?

 

[StayDead]

It's definitely an inconvenience, and if you have a toddler then it's a real shame not to be able to let them play in your garden without having to watch out for rogue cat poo!

Obviously that doesn't justify poisoning them I think people get to that point because they feel the cat owners are irresponsible and don't care that their animal is ruining someone else's enjoyment of their garden - this is the sentiment I've heard from my Dad at least. I don't imagine you can train a cat not to poop outside though?

If you teach a kitten from birth only to use a litterbox I'm fairly certain they'd have no reason to poop outside.

People who poison cats are scum

 

[PedroPanache]

Some of them might.
My cat can't bury shit for shit.She does try though.

Yeah, basically the side of our house is cat shit central, and seldom do they do the job of burying it. Instead, it's left to me every few days to dig a massive hole and throw in as much cat shit as I can find. Part of the fun of having six cats running amok.

The non-fun part of having six cats running amok is horror stories like these. They're outdoor cats and they'll always be outdoor cats, so these type of stories terrify me. About a few months ago, nearly all our cats were off their food and really lethargic. It happened quite quickly and started with one cat running an exceptionally high fever. My thoughts did turn to poison as each cat went off their food. Thankfully, it seemed to be some kind of bug and after a week or two everything returned to normal. But, for the briefest moments, I did panic and think that somebody may have poisoned them all.

 

[Walshicus]

People who poison cats are scum

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

 

[Lightning Count]

Did you declaw her?

This is a practice I strongly oppose, especially if your cats go outside. Their claws are what allow to defend themselves or if need be climb up a tree when chased by an aggressive dog.

 

[Wiktor]

This is a practice I strongly oppose, especially if your cats go outside. Their claws are what allow to defend themselves or if need be climb up a tree when chased by an aggressive dog.

That's the problem. Cats shouldn't be allowed outside unless they're on the leash.

 

[Lightning Count]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

What the fuck is this meant to mean exactly?

I love dogs, but they can equally be viewed as vermin or a lot worse. They are even treated as an outright threat in some situations, how many times do you hear of farmers shooting dogs that wander on to their land, plenty of times, because a dog can kill an entire batch of chickens or bring down sheep.

Your logic is highly flawed.

 

[Wiktor]

What the fuck is this meant to mean exactly?

I love dogs, but they can equally be viewed as vermin or a lot worse.

They are even treated as an outright threat in some situations, how many times do you hear of farmers shooting dogs that wander on to their land, plenty of times, because a dog can kill an entire batch of chickens or bring down sheep.

Your logic is highly flawed.

Nonsense. Dogs with owners usually aren;t allowed to run free outside. In many countries even if you;re near your dog you will pay a hefty fine if it's not on a leash or have muzzle.

Meanwhile cats with actual owners roam free, each one killing dozens if not hundreds wild animals each month, because vast majority of cats kill for pleasure, not just for good.

Free roaming cats are vermin and saying that dogs are anywhere near the same problem is delusional. Letting cats outside should be banned and owners who won't abide should be heavily fined.

 

[KurtSloane]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

Classy guy.

Shake your head.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

God I've read some shit on here before...

Here's a big difference between cats and dogs. Dogs are fuckwits and crave attention from anyone that will provide it. Most cats will choose one maybe two humans and completely open up to them in a way a non-cat owner wouldn't ever know about. They only sit there and give you the aloof glance because you mean nothing to them.

 

[MilkyJoe]

This is a practice I strongly oppose, especially if your cats go outside. Their claws are what allow to defend themselves or if need be climb up a tree when chased by an aggressive dog.

Yes it's barbaric and causes the cat life long back pain because of the change in it's stance. Completely illegal in my country.

 

[Lightning Count]

Nonsense. Dogs with owners usually aren;t allowed to run free outside. In many countries even if you;re near your dog you will pay a hefty fine if it's not on a leash or have muzzle.

Meanwhile cats with actual owners roam free, each one killing dozens if not hundreds wild animals each month, because vast majority of cats kill for pleasure, not just for good.

Free roaming cats are vermin and saying that dogs are anywhere near the same problem is delusional. Letting cats outside should be banned and owners who won't abide should be heavily fined.

So you don't acknowledge the fact that a dog that has escaped is a potential threat to livestock?

Some dogs have very strong prey hunting instincts and will attack livestock on sight.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Speaking as someone on the other side of the fence who has a real problem with cats shitting in my garden despite having tried fucking everything to keep them out: I don't agree with poisoning them, but I can see how people reach the end of their tethers. Going out at the weekend in the summer and having to clean up anything from 12-20 cat shits is not fun, and I hate the fucking animals. Half the time my two year old son cannot go and play in the garden because it's too fucking messy and foul out there. One time he fell in a cat shit and got it on his hands, and the disgusting animals even shit on our decking and have shit on the fucking slide before. I don't have pets. I don't want pets. I don't want to have to get my own cat to make the problem go away, and we can't get a dog as it would be home on its own too much. At times in warm weather literally our whole fucking garden stinks of cat shit, and nothing has worked to keep them out - not lion shit, not sonic deterrents, not silhouettes of cats (to make them think the garden is already occupied), not growing certain plants, not spreading citrus scent all over the lawn; nothing.

I don't agree with poisoning them, at as someone on the receiving end of a constant barrage of cat faeces in my garden, I struggle to sympathise.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

1. clearly you want to be heard or else you wouldn't have posted.
2. dogs can also be "vermin" a term I strongly disagree with seeing as we all live on the god damn planet.
3. thanks for being a typical cat thread instigator.

 

[-MB-]

Nonsense. Dogs with owners usually aren;t allowed to run free outside. In many countries even if you;re near your dog you will pay a hefty fine if it's not on a leash or have muzzle.

Meanwhile cats with actual owners roam free, each one killing dozens if not hundreds wild animals each month, because vast majority of cats kill for pleasure, not just for good.

Free roaming cats are vermin and saying that dogs are anywhere near the same problem is delusional. Letting cats outside should be banned and owners who won't abide should be heavily fined.

At least I don't have to worry step into cat poo when I am walking round the neighborhood, and that is with new laws and etiquette about having to clean up dog poo when walking your dog. Still see frequent piles on the street/sidewalks.

 

[ScribbleD]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

Sweet Jesus, what the fuck am I even reading? People have defended some stuff on here before, but...I just...WHAT!?

 

[-MD-]

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

Disgusting.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

So disgraceful.
What's the problem? People hate cats nowadays?

I tent to see cat haters complain about them pooping in the flower beds, crossing their land, they're unloyal/selfish and killing birds
often their dog lovers, which i find so unbelievably hypocritical, firstly dogs poop where they stand and depending on the owner they'll not clean up either, so the arguments of stepping in poop are odd, and perhaps worse for dogs, cats hide it
crossing land? well thats just crazy, they don't know we own land, maybe if we marked our territory then it would be in a way they understand
unloyal/selfish, all animals can be like this including dogs
killing birds? fair point predatory animal kills smaller animals, just like dogs kill squirels etc, some even use the below reasoning...

Kind of torn about this. On the other hand, this is obviously 100% wrong to do. On the other, there are less cats around. Not that I hate cats, but cats are a real ecological problem nowadays, doing their own part in fucking up ecosystems all over the world.

[not targeting you personally Famassu, just tackling that argument] Cats have a negligible effect on ecosystems in residential areas, human destruction of habitat is what kills wild bird life, hedgehogs etc, sure Cats can get them as a natural predator, but cutting hedges, building on scrub land, even gardening which introduces non native plants, killing of bugs in gardens, kills/affects far more of an ecosystem than even a horde of cats could.
If people are really worried about a predatory animals effect on wildlife they should be even more incensed by human effects

But as you aren't bat shit crazy like i've seen most people who wheel out the eco system argument, you know killing cats is wrong, but everytime you go on a news site which runs these articles you will find quite a lot of people seem to think that for killing a bird all cats should be destroyed

I've lost too many cats over the years, neighbours had them poisoned, one of mine may have been (he died in odd circumstances, we thought run over as he had some blood on his nose, but a day later a neighbours cat was poisoned)


EDIT; oh man i should have replied to responses on the second page! cats kill dozens if not hundred of wild animals each month! ha that is the most ludicrous thing i've ever read
So a single cat kills about 2400 animals a year, so in a neighbour hood with multiple cats, it must be like some post apocalyptic environment with only cats roaming the streets, no bid song, no mice or small insects

You'd be lucky if a single cat killed 1 bird a month, in all my years of owning multiple cats i've only ever had 1 bird brought to my door, and saw one trying to play with a mouse (no claws he kept batting it so it rolled over) - i could be less than average, but man with your numbers my cats must have been virtual pacifists

2nd EDIT: although if you are tailing about feral cats in Australia that could be different but i'd still debate hundred per month per cat, that's unrealistic
but still Australia is very post apocalyptic so it could be true

 

[Wiktor]

So you don't acknowledge the fact that a dog that has escaped is a potential threat to livestock?

Of course they do, but dogs don't do even 5% as much damage to other animals as cats do. The scale of problem with those spiecies is on entirely different level. Especially since dogs usually have to escape to start causing problems like those. While do this despite having a regular home.

 

[Walshicus]

1. clearly you want to be heard or else you wouldn't have posted.

I don't understand what you're point is?

2. dogs can also be "vermin" a term I strongly disagree with seeing as we all live on the god damn planet.

People don't tend to let their dogs run around fucking things up without supervision, and when they do they're rightly chastised.

3. thanks for being a typical cat thread instigator.

If this keeps coming up in threads about cats, perhaps it's something to pay attention to. I actually don't mind cats when they're indoors, but either they're your pets and you control them or you let them prowl about at their own risk.