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[theepicoftyler]

So call animal control, humane society, a local pet rescue, etc.

They're feral cats. They live in the tree lines and cornfields around the unincorporated town. There isn't a whole lot to do. Animal control often won't do anything about it unless they're living in someone's property.

 

[quesalupa]

Why the hell would you want to kill the best organism?

 

[pj]

How exactly is it 'unbalanced'? I mean, isnt it 'unbalanced' if you place one type of life above another in the first place?

Just because humans are smarter than other animals, doesnt mean that someone should automatically save a human (In this hypothetical scenario) over their pet cat who they have an actual relationship and shared emotions with. Cats (and many other animals) have feelings, memories, personalities, fears, likes, dislikes just like people do and to decide outright that someone is unbalanced because they would rather save the thing that has a great emotional and personal attachment to them seems alien to me.

If in this scenario, one of my cats and a stranger were both in mortal peril and i only had the chance to save one of them, i would go for my cat every time. Yes it will be terrible that the person died, but its only natural to want to protect the being that you have an actual connection with instead of someone you dont. If i had the time of course i would save both but thats not the point of the hypothetical.

This whole idea of 'ranking' species is vile to me and only serves to perpetuate the idea that its ok to treat some species/people/races etc. better than others since its not teaching you to value life and instead to weigh up 'which one has the most value as a species'.

Here's a big difference between cats and dogs. Dogs are fuckwits and crave attention from anyone that will provide it. Most cats will choose one maybe two humans and completely open up to them in a way a non-cat owner wouldn't ever know about. They only sit there and give you the aloof glance because you mean nothing to them.

It may be debatable that dogs are better than cats, but it's a fact that cat people are the worst. I love my dog more than anything but I'd save either of you two idiots over her because you're human beings.

 

[Mrmartel]

Cats are real vermin in certain areas of the world. There has been countless studies of thedamage they cause to the environment with the amount of native wildlife (especially birds) they consume.

I rather have nature in balance. Poisoning is in poor taste. But animal populations are culled all the time for various reasons. I think because they are viewed as domestic pets they get a free ride from people/cat lovers. It's a big issue that needs to be solved.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

It may be debatable that dogs are better than cats, but it's a fact that cat people are the worst. I love my dog more than anything but I'd save either of you two idiots over her because you're human beings.

Yah, you would never ever see a 'dog person' say something similar. Nope that would never happen. Pet threads, never get old.

It's a big issue that needs to be solved.

You are not going to believe this, there is already a solution. It's called being a responsible individual, get your pets spayed/neutered.

 

[The Shadow]

Poisoning them etc is clearly out of line.

At the same time keep your animal on your own property.

Kind of raises an interesting question though. If you put out a bowl of poison in your own property and someone else's cat trespasses to get to it, who's really at fault there?


I'm a HUGE animal lover and used to rescue dogs and cats all the time when I was in college, and thought it was just flat out wrong for people to poison cats. Heck, one of my sister's cats just disappeared for no reason, and my moms cat came home pretty sick once and we suspected poison.

But now that I'm a little older, it really does raise the question why people seem to think it's ok for their cat to just roam willy-nilly into other people's property, potentially doing damage, shitting in gardens, etc, etc. Why is everyone else responsible for that cat's well-being? Why is it ok for cats to do it, when it would be unthinkable to allow a dog to do the same thing?

Doesn't make sense to me anymore. Keep your pinche cat inside if you actually care for it. To me, it just smacks of irresponsibility.

wtf...how is having shards of glass and poisonous chemicals more desirable in your yard than a cat walking around?

I suspect it's more the principle of the thing than anything else. Someone else's cat vs, your own designs and "defenses".

I'd never put out poison or glass and I'm even guilty of feeding feral cats, but to be brutally honest, I totally understand why people get annoyed when someone else's animal is fucking up their yard.

To me, it's really selfish to just have this attitude like it's no big deal or that people should "just get over it".

 

[entremet]

The UK/US dichotomy of indoor versus outdoor cats is fascinating.

Having cats outdoors here is just not really common, outside of mousers.

 

[cirrhosis]

internet and its cat obsession/cat defense force FFS

I love cats but for god's sake, keep them in your damn yard and house. Play with your cats and spay/neuter them.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

I love cats but for god's sake, keep them in your damn yard and house. Play with your cats and spay/neuter them.

Pretty much. Zero chance I would have an outside cat, I don't want it fucking up someones shit nor do I want some shit head to hurt it because they hate cats...or just get hit by a car.

 

[Mrmartel]

Yah, you would never ever see a 'dog person' say something similar. Nope that would never happen. Pet threads, never get old.



You are not going to believe this, there is already a solution. It's called being a responsible individual, get your pets spayed/neutered.

If only people thought that way. Unfortunately, it hasn't changed ever. Also people's attitudes don't change the here and now. At this very moment there are huge problems all over the world with feral/outdoor domestic cats decimating their local wildlife populations.

 

[riotous]

I love cats but for god's sake, keep them in your damn yard and house.

Yup; the shelter we got one of our cats from makes you sign a promise stating you won't leave them outdoors, and sends someone to your house to ensure you can properly care for them.

At one point in my life I thought differently, but that's just because I was used to the idea of cats roaming my neighborhood.. and I never knew of any problems they caused as we don't really have a feral cat issue here.

 

[braves01]

Cats let loose out in the wild are terrible for local bird populations, not to mention a nuisance for everyone whose yards, gardens, etc. they're lounging about in. While there are certainly more humane ways to control the cat population, if you're a cat owner, you can help by not letting your pet wander outside without a leash.

 

[entremet]

internet and its cat obsession/cat defense force FFS

I love cats but for god's sake, keep them in your damn yard and house. Play with your cats and spay/neuter them.

Yep. I love cat, but the internet obsession with them is pretty crazy. Keep them in your house.

 

[Sumio Mondo]

Geez, nice to see lots of compassion for dogs and cats alike in this thread. Sigh...

Yep. I love cat, but the internet obsession with them is pretty crazy. Keep them in your house.

Cats are feral creatures, keeping them indoors is depressing, animals need to get outside too, you know?

 

[MilkyJoe]

It may be debatable that dogs are better than cats, but it's a fact that cat people are the worst. I love my dog more than anything but I'd save either of you two idiots over her because you're human beings.

Nah, dog people are worse by default cause they never stop banging on about them.. zzzzz... p

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Cats are feral creatures, keeping them indoors is depressing

Source?

 

[Extra Sauce]

A few years ago cats were falling like flies in my neighborhood, it was soul-crushing. I don't think the perpetrator was ever found. Sadly it seems to be very easy to get away with killing people's pets.

 

[dorn.]

They're harmless, so what if they shit in your back garden.

Yeah, so what of you have to smell and clean up shit all the time, occasionally step on it and get exposed to toxoplasma. And fuck birds, right? Who needs those.

Outdoor cats should be banned, plain and simple.

 

[Agremont]

It may be debatable that dogs are better than cats, but it's a fact that cat people are the worst. I love my dog more than anything but I'd save either of you two idiots over her because you're human beings.

That's definitely not a fact. In my experience it's the opposite. Every cat thread gets invaded with dog lovers shitting on cats. Every single one. Not just one or two posts either.

And I say that as someone who likes dogs as well.

 

[Azuran]

Thread about a toddler killed in an arson attack in Palestine: 3 pages
Thread about cats being poisoned: 5 pages

You guys are kidding right? Is GAF so I can't really tell these days when it comes to stupid.

GAF gets like 30+ threads a week about people dying.

 

[EvilMario]

It's an issue with dogs in Toronto. You'll see news reports a few times per year about people leaving food in the park that has been tainted, has razors in it, etc. Sometimes at just a neigbhourhood park, sometime around an off leash dog park.

People that do this to animals are disgusting pieces of trash.

 

[entremet]

Geez, nice to see lots of compassion for dogs and cats alike in this thread. Sigh...



Cats are feral creatures, keeping them indoors is depressing, animals need to get outside too, you know?

Cats are fine indoors.

 

[PedroPanache]

internet and its cat obsession/cat defense force FFS

I love cats but for god's sake, keep them in your damn yard and house. Play with your cats and spay/neuter them.

We're British and our cats can go wherever the fuck they like. Shit. Kill. Devastate. It's a proud British tradition.

Yeah, so what of you have to smell and clean up shit all the time, occasionally step on it and get exposed to toxoplasma. And fuck birds, right? Who needs those.

Outdoor cats should be banned, plain and simple.

Yeah, you can't walk for the sea of cat shit and dead birds that they leave in their wake. I know I haven't seen a bird in years or felt the touch of concrete or grass. Just endless cat shit on my shoes.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Cats kill billions of animals per year?

I mean.....cats probably cause alot of issues to the ecosystems they've been introduced to.

Hell, cats kill for fun.

 

[old manatee]

Egyptians were aliens and they buried themselves with cats so that they could chill large for eternity.

 

[Coins]

This thread is crazy. Lol.

Just trap them. Take them to the local shelter. If they have a home, hopefully they are chipped and owners are notified to come get them. If they arent, and no one comes looking, then they can be euthanized as strays and won't bother anyone anymore.

 

[PedroPanache]

Egyptians were aliens and they buried themselves with cats so that they could chill large for eternity.

They were just keeping them indoors.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Yeah, so what of you have to smell and clean up shit all the time, occasionally step on it and get exposed to toxoplasma. And fuck birds, right? Who needs those.

Outdoor cats should be banned, plain and simple.

I could have swore cats buried their poop outside? Am I crazy to think that?

 

[MilkyJoe]

I could have swore cats buried their poop outside? Am I crazy to think that?

Nope, you're not crazy.

 

[The Shadow]

Cats are feral creatures, keeping them indoors is depressing, animals need to get outside too, you know?

Really? My mother's cat used to be an outdoor cat but for safety's sake she's been exclusively indoors for years now. She's the same playful, happy-go-lucky cat she's always been.

The only thing "depressing" is selfish cat owners who have no sympathy or respect for other people and their property, much less the local ecology. If you think it's so depressing to keep a cat inside, get a leash and take it for a walk like any other caring and responsible pet owner.

I could have swore cats buried their poop outside? Am I crazy to think that?

It's crazy to think all cats do this all the time. Hell, my mother-in-law's cats don't even bury their poop in the litter box. She had to buy a special litter box that stirred that shit up for them.

 

[John Kowalski]

Please don't kill the cats. It's ok to be pissed off, just don't actually poison them for fuck's sake.

 

[Lightning Count]

Keeping cats indoors is cruel and imposing limits on their natural behaviour, really surprised reading through this to see the difference between the UK and the US. I have never forced any of my cats to stay indoors, it's in their nature to explore their surroundings and I will not deny them this freedom, my cats come and go as they please.

Declawing is a barbaric practice and I am glad it is illegal here.

 

[PedroPanache]

This thread is crazy. Lol.

Just trap them. Take them to the local shelter. If they have a home, hopefully they are chipped and owners are notified to come get them. If they arent, and no one comes looking, then they can be euthanized as strays and won't bother anyone anymore.

That doesn't sound psychotic at all. Thank god this isn't a thing in the UK and we don't have to worry about some crazed trapper gathering up cats like it's a game of Pokemon. Still, at least you're not proposing an arrow into the head. So, that's something.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Really? My mother's cat used to be an outdoor cat but for safety's sake she's been exclusively indoors for years now. She's the same playful, happy-go-lucky cat she's always been.

The only thing "depressing" is selfish cat owners who have no sympathy or respect for other people and their property, much less the local ecology. If you think it's so depressing to keep a cat inside, get a leash and take it for a walk like any other caring and responsible pet owner.



It's crazy to think all cats do this all the time. Hell, my mother-in-law's cats don't even bury their poop in the litter box. She had to buy a special litter box that stirred that shit up for them.

Well that's why I asked, because I've seen cats do just that, bury their shit, but I guess all cats aren't so well behaved so to speak. I've seen some people suggest that putting bells on a cat are a good way to protect wildlife while allowing them to be outside, is that actually effective though? Putting a bell on a cat?

 

[The Shadow]

Keeping cats indoors is cruel and imposing limits on their natural behaviour.

Then don't own a cat.

If we're going to throw "Natural behavior" in the mix, stop feeding your cat, since your shitting up their "natural behavior" of hunting for survival. Giving them safe shelter from dangerous predators also imposes limits on their natural behavior.

Let's not pick and choose what's "natural behavior" for cats, shall we?

 

[Oppo]

Keeping cats indoors is cruel and imposing limits on their natural behaviour, really surprised reading through this to see the difference between the UK and the US. I have never forced any of my cats to stay indoors, it's in their nature to explore their surroundings and I will not deny them this freedom, my cats come and go as they please.

this is pure human projection. same thing that keeps people from crating their dogs. they think cats think like them. they don't.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Then don't own a cat.

If we're going to throw "Natural behavior" in the mix, stop feeding your cat, since your shitting up their "natural behavior" of hunting for survival. Giving them safe shelter from dangerous predators also imposes limits on their natural behavior.

Let's not pick and choose what's "natural behavior" for cats, shall we?

So it's OK to keep a dog in a cage?

 

[The Shadow]

So it's OK to keep a dog in a cage?

Dog in a cage = cat in the house? Come on dude....

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Keeping cats indoors is cruel and imposing limits on their natural behaviour, really surprised reading through this to see the difference between the UK and the US. I have never forced any of my cats to stay indoors, it's in their nature to explore their surroundings and I will not deny them this freedom, my cats come and go as they please.

Declawing is a barbaric practice and I am glad it is illegal here.

Keeping cats indoor is not cruel. They'll be fine inside.

Yes, declawing is. I was able to train my cat early on to scratch only on scratching posts rather than furniture or other stuff. She's never scratched anything other than her posts.

 

[Beefy]

My cat is too lazy to leave my garden. Some of the posts on this thread are crazy tho.

 

[Coins]

That doesn't sound psychotic at all. Thank god this isn't a thing in the UK and we don't have to worry about some crazed trapper gathering up cats like it's a game of Pokemon. Still, at least you're not proposing an arrow into the head. So, that's something.

It sounds like your solution is to just let them shit up my yard? Stray cats should just get the run of my property? Lol.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Cats don't spread disease.



I know that you're referring to the new theory that a parasite that can be found in cats can cause schizophrenia, since it's recently been in the news. This is still a theory in progress. Do you have any other examples of diseases cats spread? Because your previous example is not a fact.

Lol what?

I love cats, but seriously educate yourself about the health risks of coming into contact with cat feces. They are the main mammalian disease vector for toxoplasma.

 

[cjp]

Dog in a cage = cat in the house? Come on dude....

Just bail. A quick scan through this thread illustrates how out of touch with reality he is.

 

[Renekton]

Cats go where they pleases D:

I think neighbors have lost a combined 8 cats to my dogs, because they somehow like to wander here while everybody is asleep.

 

[Coins]

Cats go where they pleases D:

I think neighbors have lost a combined 8 cats to my dogs, because they somehow like to wander here while everybody is asleep.

Well you're a horrible person for not rolling out the red carpet for these cats.

 

[smuf]

We had this happen to a litter of stray kittens who lived in and around our garden. Two out of four got poisoned, one of which we found dead. We took the other one to the vet and had to keep her indoors for a couple of weeks. She was vomiting blood and had bloody diarrhea for several days but pulled through eventually.

I don't know why anyone would possibly do such a thing, it's just horrible.

 

[scamander]

The UK/US dichotomy of indoor versus outdoor cats is fascinating.

It's more like a US vs. the rest of the world thing.

I'm living in Germany and animal shelters won't let you adopt a cat, if you can't let it go outside, UNLESS the cat is used to stay at home thanks to the previous owner OR has FIV. In these cases (which don't happen that often) they'll insist that you take two cats, though (if you don't already have one).

 

[Lakitu]

I'm in the UK and my cat is an indoor cat. She's perfectly happy as far as I'm concerned.

Not too long ago some whacko beheaded a couple of cats around here, so I'm fine with her staying inside.

 

[scamander]

Not too long ago some whacko beheaded a couple of cats around here, so I'm fine with her staying inside.

Wait, what? Sick world.

 

[speculawyer]

This is a practice I strongly oppose, especially if your cats go outside. Their claws are what allow to defend themselves or if need be climb up a tree when chased by an aggressive dog.

So do you hate songbirds with a passion? Cats kill millions of birds.