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[speculawyer]

Cats go where they pleases D:

I think neighbors have lost a combined 8 cats to my dogs, because they somehow like to wander here while everybody is asleep.

You better hope a small child doesn't wander into your yard.

 

[Methos#1975]

I don't have cats and don't particularly care for them, but from some people's reactions to them entering their gardens you'd think they murdered their families or something.

They're harmless, so what if they shit in your back garden.

They are far from harmless

 

[hillsighed]

I hate cats and the thought of actively killing them is just.. it doesn't even make sense to me.

What does anyone gain from this?

Some people get off on stupid shit like this. Poison cats then go home and masturbate thinking about it.

 

[Lakitu]

Wait, what? Sick world.

That's not even the worst part (although it's horrible), he later went on to behead an elderly woman...

If I lived in a better area, I'd feel more safer for me and my cat.

 

[soleil]

I don't understand what you're point is?


People don't tend to let their dogs run around fucking things up without supervision, and when they do they're rightly chastised.


If this keeps coming up in threads about cats, perhaps it's something to pay attention to. I actually don't mind cats when they're indoors, but either they're your pets and you control them or you let them prowl about at their own risk.

So if a dog jumps a fence and goes loose, and eventually attacks and kills a child, you see the dog as vermin that should be killed?

 

[Beelzebufo]

So do you hate songbirds with a passion? Cats kill millions of birds.

Don't forget frogs

I like cats too much to put out poison but if you can live with yourself go for it, I can respect that.

 

[QueenOfThorns]

Why is it that some people see a thread title with "cat" in it and have to instantly come in and shit on everything. are you that insecure that people like cats and love them like you love your dog

Not that I care either way, but it's a thin line between pet and vermin. And they're cats after all; it's not like we're talking about dogs here.

do cat people enter dog threads saying that it's good they're dying because they're vermin and say shit like "after all; it's not like we're talking about cats here."

is this a thing that happens?

are animal wars really a thing

 

[Beelzebufo]

Why is it that some people see a thread title with "cat" in it and have to instantly come in and shit on everything. are you that insecure that people like cats and love them like you love your dog



do cat people enter dog threads saying that it's good they're dying because they're vermin and say shit like "after all; it's not like we're talking about cats here."

is this a thing that happens?

are animal wars really a thing

Dogs don't do that. Cats are literally the worst. Check the facts sir, this isn't a cats vs dogs debate. They're incredibly destructive invasive disease vectors.

 

[scamander]

That's not even the worst part (although it's horrible), he later went on to behead an elderly woman...

If I lived in a better area, I'd feel more safer for me and my cat.

Jeez, I just googled it. The story and his justification sound like it came right out of a trash flick.

“I thought she was Hitler. She was really an evil being in the shape of an old woman. She was an alien from outer space.”

 

[Methos#1975]

I have had huge issues in the past with cats as I pointed out in other threads about these issues, I breed Crocs and other large reptiles like Monitors, and I would lose tons of my babies every year due to strays and the neighbor's cats getting into my enclosures. What I did is creative restructuring,ringing the baby enclosures with adult ones that the cats must pass through. Problem solved.

 

[Ryouji Gunblade]

It's now okay to poison your neighbor's cat because you suspect it is a murderer?

#Notallcats

 

[QueenOfThorns]

Dogs don't do that. Cats are literally the worst. Check the facts sir, this isn't a cats vs dogs debate. They're incredibly destructive invasive disease vectors.

i was at church with my family and a cat got in and everyone fainted and died because the cat gave them the plague

if only someone was going around poisoning all of them


also dogs don't do what? go outside? lol. crappy people let their dogs do whatever they want outside all the time. that doesn't mean they should be poisoned or killed or that they're vermin.

but hey poison dogs away at least they're not cats am i right also this isn't about cats vs dogs even though i explicitly make it that with my inflammatory posts

 

[Freiya]

How is trapping a cat going to hurt? Lol.

You realize you can buy traps at Home Depot for 18 bucks. You put food in it, cat walks in and doesn't walk out. Then you just take the trap to animal control and they empty the trap. Bye bye kitty.

I love this lol. Sadly I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't have to go through all of this trouble because of someone else pet. ;(

Still see nobody who made the claims about animals on their land has addressed my question on how an animal knows its your land

Why does it matter if the cat knows it's your land or not? The owner of the cat knows it's not their land and that is enough.

Agreed. Your cat shouldn't be climbing on my car leaving paw prints and possibly scratching
paint.

This!!! omg it's so frustrating.

My grandfather used to shoot cats in his yard with a BB gun.

This is what I think I would end up doing if it really started to bother me.

Kind of raises an interesting question though. If you put out a bowl of poison in your own property and someone else's cat trespasses to get to it, who's really at fault there?


I'm a HUGE animal lover and used to rescue dogs and cats all the time when I was in college, and thought it was just flat out wrong for people to poison cats. Heck, one of my sister's cats just disappeared for no reason, and my moms cat came home pretty sick once and we suspected poison.

But now that I'm a little older, it really does raise the question why people seem to think it's ok for their cat to just roam willy-nilly into other people's property, potentially doing damage, shitting in gardens, etc, etc. Why is everyone else responsible for that cat's well-being? Why is it ok for cats to do it, when it would be unthinkable to allow a dog to do the same thing?

Doesn't make sense to me anymore. Keep your pinche cat inside if you actually care for it. To me, it just smacks of irresponsibility.



I suspect it's more the principle of the thing than anything else. Someone else's cat vs, your own designs and "defenses".

I'd never put out poison or glass and I'm even guilty of feeding feral cats, but to be brutally honest, I totally understand why people get annoyed when someone else's animal is fucking up their yard.

To me, it's really selfish to just have this attitude like it's no big deal or that people should "just get over it".

Best post in the thread. ;3

 

[Coins]

I have had huge issues in the past with cats as I pointed out in other threads about these issues, I breed Crocs and other large reptiles like Monitors, and I would lose tons of my babies every year due to strays and the neighbor's cats getting into my enclosures. What I did is creative restructuring,ringing the baby enclosures with adult ones that the cats must pass through. Problem solved.

Lol. An adult monitor probably fucked those cats up.

 

[Takuan]

#teamIndoor

I don't really understand the point to owning a cat if you're just going to let it fuck off and die to external threats, including humans who hate them so much they'd go out of their way to poison them.

 

[KrellRell]

Why is it that some people see a thread title with "cat" in it and have to instantly come in and shit on everything. are you that insecure that people like cats and love them like you love your dog



do cat people enter dog threads saying that it's good they're dying because they're vermin and say shit like "after all; it's not like we're talking about cats here."

is this a thing that happens?

are animal wars really a thing

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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[Methos#1975]

Lol. An adult monitor probably fucked those cats up.

Its not pretty, I also have Caimans, even worse

 

[cirrhosis]

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
http://tinyurl.com/onjulhc

dailymail lol

 

[Alebrije]

Its not pretty, I also have Caimans, even worse

But what about if a Thundercat goes to your place ?

 

[Odrion]

I don't let my cat outside anymore because he likes to catch bats alive and release them in my bedroom.

Sometimes blackbirds if it's bright out.

edit: also I doubt people are poisoning cats because they know that they cause ecological damage to their environment. I'm guessing it's territorial assholes.

 

[Methos#1975]

But what about if a Thundercat goes to your place ?

As long as its Cheetara....

 

[ThisGuy]

edit: also I doubt people are poisoning cats because they know that they cause ecological damage to their environment. I'm guessing it's territorial assholes.

The most frequent complaints I hear are the smell and shit. So I don't think they're killing to kill. Like cats do.

 

[soleil]

Kind of raises an interesting question though. If you put out a bowl of poison in your own property and someone else's cat trespasses to get to it, who's really at fault there?


I'm a HUGE animal lover and used to rescue dogs and cats all the time when I was in college, and thought it was just flat out wrong for people to poison cats. Heck, one of my sister's cats just disappeared for no reason, and my moms cat came home pretty sick once and we suspected poison.

But now that I'm a little older, it really does raise the question why people seem to think it's ok for their cat to just roam willy-nilly into other people's property, potentially doing damage, shitting in gardens, etc, etc. Why is everyone else responsible for that cat's well-being? Why is it ok for cats to do it, when it would be unthinkable to allow a dog to do the same thing?

Doesn't make sense to me anymore. Keep your pinche cat inside if you actually care for it. To me, it just smacks of irresponsibility.



I suspect it's more the principle of the thing than anything else. Someone else's cat vs, your own designs and "defenses".

I'd never put out poison or glass and I'm even guilty of feeding feral cats, but to be brutally honest, I totally understand why people get annoyed when someone else's animal is fucking up their yard.

To me, it's really selfish to just have this attitude like it's no big deal or that people should "just get over it".

By the same logic, if you poison your own lunch and bring it to work, and a coworker steals your lunch and dies, who's really at fault here?

 

[dorn.]

I could have swore cats buried their poop outside? Am I crazy to think that?

Nope, you're not crazy.

They do bury it, to a certain degree. Which makes it even worse because by the time you smell it it's half fermented already. Also fucks up your plants real lovely. Fuck everyone who tries to downplay this, seriously.

 

[ThisGuy]

By the same logic, if you poison your own lunch and bring it to work, and a coworker steals your lunch and dies, who's really at fault here?

Hardly the same logic. If he was poisoning cats at his work, maybe.

 

[soleil]

Hardly the same logic. If he was poisoning cats at his work, maybe.

The only difference is that the coworker knows what he/she is doing is wrong. A cat doesn't understand legal property boundaries.

 

[PSqueak]

I would never poison a cat, and i find the act kinda despicable, but im not gonna pretend i don't understand why people do it.

In my previous home the neighbor's cat would walk into my house, not the yard, the actual inside of the house, and fuck around with shit unti i caught him and got him out (im allergic by the way), it was annoying, but im silly and i just thought it was silly cat antics, however, if this cat did the same to OTHER houses, well, it's no wonder one day the owner found him dead by poison.

It was a horrible act by a horrible person, but the owner is to blame for not monitoring his cat and preventing him from breaking into neighboring houses.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

They do bury it, to a certain degree. Which makes it even worse because by the time you smell it it's half fermented already. Also fucks up your plants real lovely. Fuck everyone who tries to downplay this, seriously.

I wasn't trying to downplay anything, if that last part was aimed at me.

 

[Coins]

I love this lol. Sadly I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't have to go through all of this trouble because of someone else pet.

Yeah it was a pain in the ass. We have a neighbor who let her multiple cats just run around and we have a leash law. I called the cops but she would deny the cats were hers and she was just feeding them. She saw the trap out and knew what was up. After having to go pick up her cats at the shelter, I think she couldn't keep affording the fine so she got rid of them.

 

[ThisGuy]

The only difference is that the coworker knows what he/she is doing is wrong. A cat doesn't understand legal property boundaries.

Another difference is that one takes place at home while the other at a place of business.

Sitting out poison in your yard is not illegal. I have containers of poisons by my back door right now.

I grew up spreading crushed red peppers around the gardens and house to repel cats. Better than poison. Seems to work.

 

[Kinky John]

I like cats, but if your cat comes into my garden twice a day to dig a hole in my grass it's getting fucking chased!

 

[KrellRell]

I would never poison a cat, and i find the act kinda despicable, but im not gonna pretend i don't understand why people do it.

In my previous home the neighbor's cat would walk into my house, not the yard, the actual inside of the house, and fuck around with shit unti i caught him and got him out (im allergic by the way), it was annoying, but im silly and i just thought it was silly cat antics, however, if this cat did the same to OTHER houses, well, it's no wonder one day the owner found him dead by poison.

It was a horrible act by a horrible person, but the owner is to blame for not monitoring his cat and preventing him from breaking into neighboring houses.

I totally agree. Just like the time I poisoned and killed my neighbours dogs because they were shitting on our lawn. Vermin.

Ok, I didn't actually do that. Just wondering how some people think it's ok?

 

[Beelzebufo]

i was at church with my family and a cat got in and everyone fainted and died because the cat gave them the plague

if only someone was going around poisoning all of them


also dogs don't do what? go outside? lol. crappy people let their dogs do whatever they want outside all the time. that doesn't mean they should be poisoned or killed or that they're vermin.

but hey poison dogs away at least they're not cats am i right also this isn't about cats vs dogs even though i explicitly make it that with my inflammatory posts

Dogs don't spread disease or devastate ecosystems in even close to the same level. I know you like your pets but this comes across as uninformed. They are huge invasive pests. Like we're talking worse than rats here.
Dogs are not.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I totally agree. Just like the time I poisoned and killed my neighbours dogs because they were shitting on our lawn. Vermin.

I hope you were prosecuted

 

[KrellRell]

I hope you were prosecuted

I would hope so too. I can't believe people are ok with poisoning someone else's pet.

 

[PSqueak]

I totally agree. Just like the time I poisoned and killed my neighbours dogs because they were shitting on our lawn. Vermin.

Ok, I didn't actually do that. Just wondering how some people think it's ok?

Okay, so you apparently missed the part where i said:

-The cat got multiple times into the house
-The cat damaged my stuff and is a health hazard by just being there because im allergic
-That im NOT okay with it

People are blinded by their pet love that they're not thinking practicly, your cat is your responsability, people will have different tollerance to the transgressions your cat does, this is fact, and it's up to you, the owner, to make sure your cat doesn't piss off the wrong person.

If your cat wounds up invading some irate psycho's house and killed it's your fault for not properly caring for your cat, regardless of how morally reprensible that person's actions are.

People should not be picking the slack on you if you're doing a shit job with your pet.

 

[soleil]

Another difference is that one takes place at home while the other at a place of business.

Sitting out poison in your yard is not illegal. I have containers of poisons by my back door right now.

I grew up spreading crushed red peppers around the gardens and house to repel cats. Better than poison. Seems to work.

Okay so if a roommate is stealing your food, then it's fine to poison your food at home and wait for him to eat it and die?

 

[MilkyJoe]

I would hope so too. I can't believe people are ok with poisoning someone else's pet.

Ahhh... You edited, ha ha, let you off.

 

[ManUtdRedDevils]

Personally, I dislike cats. My mom had anywhere between 2-3 cats when I was growing up and I find them to be spiteful creatures. Having said that, Poisoning any animal is wrong. It is just cruel. Imagine the pain of the animal after it is poisoned. Just awful.

I do think laws for pets should be universal. If it is outside, it needs to be leashed or contained on your property. All animals must be tagged. Any animal caught off your property is a ticket and the pet owner is liable for any damage caused by said animal.

As a new homeowner, I can understand the hatred for any animal destroying your property. We have a groundhog that keeps eating our tomatoes. We have tried fences, ammonia, Epsom salt, pinwheels, etc. the bugger keeps getting by our defenses. It is extremely frustrating. I think we will try to catch and release it next.

 

[Jenov]

So if a dog jumps a fence and goes loose, and eventually attacks and kills a child, you see the dog as vermin that should be killed?

Yes, that particular dog in your scenario is vermin and should be exterminated. But in general dogs aren't allowed to go loose (and the ones that do get out normally do not kill children). And yes, cats should be held to the same standard and not be allowed to roam freely.

Cats can be lovely creatures when kept indoors. Otherwise they're terrors to the local ecosystem and a headache to everyone else who has to deal with them.

 

[KrellRell]

Okay, so you apparently missed the part where i said:

-The cat got multiple times into the house
-The cat damaged my stuff and is a health hazard by just being there because im allergic
-That im NOT okay with it

People are blinded by their pet love that they're not thinking practicly, your cat is your responsability, people will have different tollerance to the transgressions your cat does, this is fact, and it's up to you, the owner, to make sure your cat doesn't piss off the wrong person.

If you cat wounds up invading some irate psycho's house and killed it's your fault for not properly caring for your cat, regardless of how morally reprensible that person's actions are.

People should not be picking the slack on you if you're doing a shit job with your pet.

Dude, I wasn't directing it towards you. It was just convenient to quote you.

But I see some stuff I don't agree with. If something irritates a psycho and they kill it, it's your fault? I'm pretty sure that's the psycho's fault. Killing something is never the answer. So, you are saying if I killed my neighbour's dogs for shitting on my lawn, it's my neighbour's fault? I mean, I shouldn't be picking up their slack, I should be killing?

 

[ThisGuy]

Okay so if a roommate is stealing your food, then it's fine to poison your food at home and wait for him to eat it and die?

Of course not. Why would you murder/injur your roommate? Why are you comparing an animal/pest destroying property to a person that lives with you, or previously, works with you?

I'm guessing you put cats right up there with people and are sensitive to cat death?

 

[Walshicus]

So if a dog jumps a fence and goes loose, and eventually attacks and kills a child, you see the dog as vermin that should be killed?

... Yeah? Dogs that harm Humans (outside of defence) should be put down. How is that in any way debatable?

 

[PSqueak]

Dude, I wasn't directing it towards you. It was just convenient to quote you.

But I see some stuff I don't agree with. If something irritates a psycho and they kill it, it's your fault? I'm pretty sure that's the psycho's fault. Killing something is never the answer. So, you are saying if I killed my neighbour's dogs for shitting on my lawn, it's my neighbour's fault? I mean, I shouldn't be picking up their slack, I should be killing?

Was i invading their home? was i damaging their property? was i being a hazard to their health? If im house invading, killing me would be excesive but technically he would be in the right to defend his home from an invasion. Regardless, it's ridiculous to compare the actions of a cat with the actions of a human, a human home invader is certainly a bigger problem than a cat invader.

If you killed your neighbors dog for messing with your house that would make you an asshole, but yes, it would be your neighbor's fault for not controlling his dog.

Also you're completely missing the point, yet again, i have clearly stated that im not okay with killing pets as the only end all solution, im just saying that people will do it, so better keep your damn pets safe and in control.

Why is this hard to grasp?

 

[KrellRell]

Was i invading their home? was i damaging their property? was i being a hazard to their health? If im house invading, killing me would be excesive but technically he would be in the right to defend his home from an invasion. Regardless, it's ridiculous to compare the actions of a cat with the actions of a human, a human home invader is certainly a bigger problem than a cat invader.

If you killed your neighbors dog for messing with your house that would make you an asshole, but yes, it would be your neighbor's fault for not controlling his dog.

Also you're completely missing the point, yet again, i have clearly stated that im not okay with killing pets as the only end all solution, im just saying that people will do it, so better keep your damn pets safe and in control.

Why is this hard to grasp?

I agree with you. I just don't care as much to focus on placing blame. There are two problems, the irresponsible pet owners and the pet killers.

 

[Acerac]

Killing somebody else's pet is fucked up.

Pet wars aside, that shit is just mental. Don't kill somebody else's pet. Just don't.

 

[soleil]

Of course not. Why would you murder/injur your roommate? Why are you comparing an animal/pest destroying property to a person that lives with you, or previously, works with you?

I'm guessing you put cats right up there with people and are sensitive to cat death?

The value you put on the life of the person who infringes on someone else's property and then dies does not affect the logic of who is to blame if you leave out poison on your property knowing that someone is likely to take it and die. So I ask: How is it murder if I put the poison in my own food and never invite my roommate to steal it? Isn't it his own fault?

... Yeah? Dogs that harm Humans (outside of defence) should be put down. How is that in any way debatable?

You'd be surprised how many people (even here on this forum) don't want a dog to be put down even after it kills someone. I'm not one of them, but they exist.

 

[PSqueak]

I agree with you. I just don't care as much to focus on placing blame. There are two problems, the irresponsible pet owners and the pet killers.

That is true, it's ridiculous that people have to get to the point where they think killing the cat/pet is the only option because either they can't be arsed to confornt the owner or the owner is doing jackshit to fix the problem, it's unfair to the cat to suffer from the faults of either or both human parties.

Just seems to be a lack of neutrality going in this thread with a general cat bias, i mean, people throwing out there that they'd rather let a human being die over a cat, come on, i love pets too(and altho i can't own one, i am really fond of cats), but that's going over the top.

 

[mantidor]

Don't cats do their business only in their sandboxes? Dogs are much more problematic regarding messing backyards.

Poisoning is being an asshole of immense proportions, but letting your pet roam other people's backyards isn't exactly being a good neighbor either.

 

[Beelzebufo]

So if a dog jumps a fence and goes loose, and eventually attacks and kills a child, you see the dog as vermin that should be killed?

They do put down dogs when this stuff happens haha. And this dog isn't even a mass murderer like wild cats.