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This magic trick by Will Tsai is breaking my brain.
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yup, that's my theory too.
Table's a screen, and whenever he puts something down on the table or picks something up from it, it's brilliant sleight of hand.
If that is the case, this is super impressive, as you'll need to have
* exceptional sleight of hand skills
* "frame perfect" timing
I thought that, too, but he flips them to show both sides at the start and when he sets up for the rose petals. Maybe some extra coins are involved with black on one side, but if he can hide the first four by some other means I suspect any extras can/are hidden the same way.
And then on the third side they're flower petals?
I could've figured out what he did...I just refrain from picking something apart as soon as I see it. Geez.
BBQMan
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Nope. He doesnt flip them, he doesnt touch them after the first few times. Sleight of hand is a misdirect he only uses it at the start.
TheCthultist
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Ah, but speculating on that stuff is half the fun of watching magic tricks... As long as you can do it without sounding like a pretentious ass; which seems to be a way more common problem among magic enthusiasts than you would think.
Squirrel Killer
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That's what I was thinking at first too. Something like there were layers of felt that he was pulling over to reveal different coin configurations.
Then I watched a change in slow motion, pretty sure it's a video showing on a screen and he's just timing his hand movements to the video.
The picking up/laying down of the coins and petals is probably just standard sleight of hand.
Well, it's human nature. Weren't you actively doing that while watching? Is it impressive relative to a normal human trying to trick me? Absolutely. Is it impressive relative to a magician trying to trick me? Not for me. I sniffed it out right away. That's all I'm saying. I love it when a good magician tricks me and makes me think. Don't get me wrong.
I understand that part...but I just know so many people watched this not to enjoy it, but to see why they shouldn't be impressed. Especially with the thread title.
I liked it even with him going into unbelievable land towards the end.
Not really. I'm a very logical person...and I've had to teach myself not to try and dissect everything right away. Magic is one of those things I'll let be if it's good enough.
The trick obviously is the table, but im fucking salivating just trying to think the mechanics of it all, man im sure the fuckery going around on that table is incredibly clever.
Im one of those people who feel knowing the trick enhances the enjoyment and wonder of magic tricks.
Im one of those people who feel knowing the trick enhances the enjoyment and wonder of magic tricks.
It's wobbling from the foot controls, supposedly, but yeah the table needs to be rock solid.
The one reason I don't think it's a video is because the coins accurately reflect the ambient lighting, as well as his hands and shadow.
Vulcano's assistant
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Magicians can stop time for a few seconds, I thought it was common knowledge.
I think the objects are real, the table's just a cool creation on his part - a youtube comment points out on the slowest speed setting you can see something black sliding over the third coin at 1:49. I watched a few of the other tricks on the slowest setting though and I can't see anything - they literally just blink out. I still think that's pretty dang impressive.
stenbumling
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You can see the table shake very slightly every time something disappears, especially evident at mark 1:45.
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Cyril Takayama
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The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is everything.
Baron Von Beans
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Pretty much what I was thinking too. Some kind of video, or some other trickery involved.
Magic trickery...
Saw this a couple days ago and I was so impressed by it that I was disappointed by the table wobble every time something appeared.
It was like he reached the cusp of brilliance just for the wobble to make it clear that the table is rigged and ruined a perfect live magic trick.
All of the objects are real, and no one on any discussion on this can say anything with 100% assurity even with the wobbling, so imagine if the table was rock solid. He'd have everyone completely stumped.
A shame really, but really awesome just for the concept though.
It was like he reached the cusp of brilliance just for the wobble to make it clear that the table is rigged and ruined a perfect live magic trick.
All of the objects are real, and no one on any discussion on this can say anything with 100% assurity even with the wobbling, so imagine if the table was rock solid. He'd have everyone completely stumped.
A shame really, but really awesome just for the concept though.
clockworkinyou
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Something with the table/frame being a digital screen/monitor.
I don't think it's a screen because as Haly said:
Even if it was a video, his timing would have to be 100% perfect which is amazing on it's own. Plus, what happened to the clearly real coins he places down on the table at the beginning? I agree it must be some kind of trick with the table but I don't think it's a screen.
Even if it was a video, his timing would have to be 100% perfect which is amazing on it's own. Plus, what happened to the clearly real coins he places down on the table at the beginning? I agree it must be some kind of trick with the table but I don't think it's a screen.
Vulcano's assistant
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He got a vfx team to 3d render the sequence using a hdri environment of a video of him performing the trick (along with a animated model to cast the shadows) that he then times himself to on stage!
that just might be him triggering the next animation via a foot pedal or something.
Jack Scofield
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Do the judges always have these dumbfounded looks on this show? I couldn't stop laughing when it cut to the judges having a melodramatic reaction as if they've just witnessed actual, real magic.
And then the lady at the end, haha. "Rose petals!" Thanks for elucidating us!
And then the lady at the end, haha. "Rose petals!" Thanks for elucidating us!
Massive Nights
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Coin between his fingers at 1:02!
EDIT: It's actually the silver frame ��
EDIT: It's actually the silver frame ��
not bad but shin lin's still beats that for me.
BackLogJoe
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It's a screen. This wouldn't get past Penn and Teller as they have called this fuckery out before.
that was a lot of fun lol.
phisheep
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This version (without a wobbling table) is pretty damn impressive.
seems sort of simple. There is a screen for all of the card flipping stuff, and then every time he picks up the coin is where the real sleight of hand is.. simultaneously revealing the coin over the image that disappears.
honestly this is sort of clever and well rehearsed.. but yeah, I don't see this working really well up close.
also it is disingenuous to call this up close magic. the entire thing will fall apart up close or really anywhere near the screen. it is entirely based around being viewed remotely on a screen.
still, clever to watch.
honestly this is sort of clever and well rehearsed.. but yeah, I don't see this working really well up close.
also it is disingenuous to call this up close magic. the entire thing will fall apart up close or really anywhere near the screen. it is entirely based around being viewed remotely on a screen.
still, clever to watch.
sleverfunk
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Don't let the slow motion fool you. That fading you're seeing isn't evidence that the table is a screen, that's just an artifact of the camera. It's motion blur: the same thing happens to his hands, which really aren't moving that fast (and I'm pretty sure he's not a ghost).
It's not a screen. The reflections are too good.
You sniffed what out? That something is going on with the table?
Congrats? That's one step beyond "this isn't actual magic and is somehow a trick."
I mean if you actually know how the table works then by all means share. But if not, then I don't see how you've "sniffed" anything out.
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shira
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I found this one a lot worse, he's too obvious when picking up both a card and a coin and when he leaves out any of the coins.
The table wobbling with, seemingly, every movement of the coin leads me to believe there's a bunch of hidden panels with coins/petals on one side. I wonder how well this would hold up in natural lighting, in person. Objects that are "pure" black like the felt tend to mean "SOMETHING IS HIDDEN HERE" in magic, especially filmed magic.