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Tim Allen Complains About Not Being Able to Use N-Word on 'The View'
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King of Foxes
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Mista
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The thing is when your black friends says it to you all the time and tells you “Hey, you’re ma nigga so it’s okay to say it to me” .. I still don’t though, there’re other words I use to let you know that you’re my g <<<< that’s one of the them
triplestation
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i also gotta say I loved home improvement as a little kid
comfy, comfy times
comfy, comfy times
trikster40
Member
Sidebar: In the article, they talk about Allen defending old tweets. The word Tweets is a hyperlink, so, assuming it takes you to his old tweets to see what they said, I click it.
It doesn’t take you to Tim Allen’s Twitter feed. It takes you to some random persons tweet calling him racist.
It doesn’t take you to Tim Allen’s Twitter feed. It takes you to some random persons tweet calling him racist.
Trogdor1123
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I really don't see anything to be upset here.
Btw, the next season of last man standing starts soon.
Btw, the next season of last man standing starts soon.
Southern Gentleman
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Because it's forbidden.
Vicetrailia
Member
You missed the part where racists use the word to inflict harm on black people, daily, from slavery, until this day, and probably 100 years from now too.
White people don't get impacted by the word.
So overall of course Kendrick is far from the oppression of a slave, but that's not what is required to have skin in the game.
I'm not about to tell the black race what to do, but nigga is apart of the cultural mainstream, so people will use it because it's cool, quite frankly, and is often used hilariously, and so people will mimic it.
But there's a fine line, racists ruin everything I guess.
This isn't new to anyone, be mindful of how you use it around black people is the survivalist rule.
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Southern Gentleman
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The word is forbidden and will get you socially ostracized for the rest of your life and dissuade employers from hiring you.
Somehow I don't think that's fighting racism so much as massively overcompensating and adding yet more fuel to the 1984 fire which is already burning brightly these days.
Somehow I don't think that's fighting racism so much as massively overcompensating and adding yet more fuel to the 1984 fire which is already burning brightly these days.
Mitsuda Maniac
Member
What would you do, Tim?
....COCAINE?!
People who take a "principled" stance on being able to say the n word tend to suck ass
Looks like a cool dude I would have fun hanging out with at a bar.
Vicetrailia
Member
True but this goes for so many words. The business world is separate from your personal life. Outside of key select industries, no one can just say that word.
Southern Gentleman
Member
If you say the word even in your personal life, as long as it's recorded, it will destroy your chance in the business world as well, and get you fired.
There are no other words with this much power in current year. Except the infamous homosexual slur.
Vicetrailia
Member
Yeah there are. You basically can't say anything racist, homosexual, sexist or offensive in the business world. Certain industries have different standards. If I went on Twitter and said "fuck you motherfuckers" and my boss saw that, my ass is grass. But maybe a journalist could get away with that, like they can get away with anti-trump stuff.
lil puff
Member
One time I was on the subway and these 3 Indian (?) teens were using it like every other word.
I was thinking got damn dudes you are trying way too hard.
I glanced at them real quick and they got so silent you could hear a needle drop between them.
Southern Gentleman
Member
Of course businesses don't want to hire racists or any other scumbags. But the N word and "faggot" have far broader consequences than any other words at this point, beyond just the business world, *and* make you national news.
Saying "cunt" or any other word you can think of simply doesn't afford that kind of power.
Vicetrailia
Member
People get on the national news for saying sexist things for sure. I agree with your point that the N word is a powerful word, but lots of things will get you in trouble too.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Honestly, this whole argument really annoys the shit out of me.
Intent and context has to count or its basically taboo and dogma. The N-word is not a thing I particularly want to use. but it bothers me that I feel like I'm indoctrinated into operating as if using the word under any context or circumstance is innately shameful and transgressive.
I despise the sense that I'm being controlled.
I choose not to use the word because I have no issue with PoC and I really would never want to offend or hurt a member of that community needlessly. However when I instinctively check or censure myself from saying it, when there is literally noone else around and I'm simply enunciating the word as part of a quotation or lyric, Its depressing.
Especially because the "control" is specifically a taboo on speech, not thought.
N-word, N-bomb, Wigga. whatever is used euphemistically, its simply an externalized substitution for the thought of that word. The word lives on in our minds, because it is in truth a real thing out in the world.
The whole concept of black folks reclaiming the word for their own exclusive use is fine. However it needs to be understood by all that regardless of whether its conceptualized as ending with a soft "A" or a hard "ER", we all know what that represents in our minds. And the thought must precede the word.
If we want that word to go away for real, then everyone needs to stop using it. Everyone. Because at best what's actually happening is that compliance and conformity are being imposed through social pressure. And that demands that the word needs to retain an awful talismanic significance within our minds.
Which in my view is perpetuating the same racist divisions. Its just not helping,
Intent and context has to count or its basically taboo and dogma. The N-word is not a thing I particularly want to use. but it bothers me that I feel like I'm indoctrinated into operating as if using the word under any context or circumstance is innately shameful and transgressive.
I despise the sense that I'm being controlled.
I choose not to use the word because I have no issue with PoC and I really would never want to offend or hurt a member of that community needlessly. However when I instinctively check or censure myself from saying it, when there is literally noone else around and I'm simply enunciating the word as part of a quotation or lyric, Its depressing.
Especially because the "control" is specifically a taboo on speech, not thought.
N-word, N-bomb, Wigga. whatever is used euphemistically, its simply an externalized substitution for the thought of that word. The word lives on in our minds, because it is in truth a real thing out in the world.
The whole concept of black folks reclaiming the word for their own exclusive use is fine. However it needs to be understood by all that regardless of whether its conceptualized as ending with a soft "A" or a hard "ER", we all know what that represents in our minds. And the thought must precede the word.
If we want that word to go away for real, then everyone needs to stop using it. Everyone. Because at best what's actually happening is that compliance and conformity are being imposed through social pressure. And that demands that the word needs to retain an awful talismanic significance within our minds.
Which in my view is perpetuating the same racist divisions. Its just not helping,
belmarduk
Member
I probably wouldn't use other racial slurs either.. I just feel like the instinct to say something forbidden is overridden by the sheer history and ugliness of that word.
quickwhips
Member
The fact that on the internet you typed out faggot and cunt but not nigger says otherwise. Guys i agree if we want them to go away we all just need to stop saying them but by saying nigger as the n word its giving it more power when a racist fuck says it.
