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Tim Sweeney claims Windows 10 Cloud will steal your Steam PC game library
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SunBroDave
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A version of desktop Windows that doesn't run Win32 apps? MS has to be joking right?
Jonneh3003
Banned
Sweeney always seems paranoid about Microsoft.
Windows 10 cloud users likely don't have girlfriends.
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
Does he make cool shapes out of his tin foil hat at least? I'd make a swan.
OnionPowder
Member
Rightfully so
Still probably drinking too much of the kool-aid there pal.
Hope I don't have to eat crow on this though.
Terbinator
Member
Sweeney is a man who knows a thing or two about stealing, after all.
WickedLaharl
Member
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GhostTrick
Banned
Did anyone actually read what he wrote ? Cause he's actually making a compelling argument. If Windows 10 Cloud is indeed free for OEM and that they use it a lot because of the cost being nothing, that'd mean a lot of computers locked to the Windows Store unless you pay a fee.
hydrophilic attack
Member
this statement was a bit hyperbolic
but he has generally been right about this stuff
already ms is trying to make win32 obsolescent by not giving it the newest features, just like he predicted
but he has generally been right about this stuff
already ms is trying to make win32 obsolescent by not giving it the newest features, just like he predicted
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Go home Tim, you're drunk.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
He's 100% right about UWP (and I will never buy a UWP game or application), but this win 10 cloud thing sounds like it's just another crappy cut down version prompting you to upgrade, and it's probably going to be a win rt style abject failure.
I don't think vendors are going to carry an OS which can't install games and so forth. They'd have a ton of returns.
I don't think vendors are going to carry an OS which can't install games and so forth. They'd have a ton of returns.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Is Windows 10 Cloud not a free version of Windows though? I haven't been following it too much, makes sense to limit it if that is the case.
xabbott
Member
It's already been done before, Windows RT. It's meant to compete with ChromeOS/Chromebooks. The idea being, lower overheard, more secure, offer it cheaply (or free) to OEMs for very low end laptops.
It hasn't been announced yet, so...
If it does get announced it has nothing to do with gaming. It's a answer to Chrome OS. Thus, you can't install steam on it. It's more for education or people who just want to browse the web and such.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
It's dickish but not surprising.
But it's not like Steam won't be available to anyone that has Windows 10 right now or people that build their own PC's.
michaelius
Banned
Well let's see what version of windows is shipped on cheap laptops/tablets few years from now.
Much like his UWP theory turned out to be true as Microsoft is slowly adding more functionality to it to make win32 feel obsolete I fully expect few years from now they will kill home version of win 10 and you will be forced either to go with this UWP only crap or pay for Pro edition.
Much like his UWP theory turned out to be true as Microsoft is slowly adding more functionality to it to make win32 feel obsolete I fully expect few years from now they will kill home version of win 10 and you will be forced either to go with this UWP only crap or pay for Pro edition.
Bony Manifesto
Member
What does that mean?
He stole some VR tech from Betamax
GhostTrick
Banned
xabbott
Member
This is like arguing that OEMs would stop making Windows PCs and only offer Linux or Chromebooks because they are "free." If it doesn't run most games, work software, etc then people won't want it. It targets an audience that only wants a cheap PC for extremely basic use.
Of course it does. To keep it secure. Just like Chrome OS. Is Steam on Chrome OS?
Why does this guy keep resorting to making shit up to defend his stance.
We get it, you don't like win10 because of all the things you think MS will do with it in the future (despite not providing any proof of these theories).
And now you are claiming that this budget OS is a threat to gamers and pc users as a whole.
Just stop
Seriously, who thinks OEMs are going to stop making fully featured PCs? This is madness.
We get it, you don't like win10 because of all the things you think MS will do with it in the future (despite not providing any proof of these theories).
And now you are claiming that this budget OS is a threat to gamers and pc users as a whole.
Just stop
Seriously, who thinks OEMs are going to stop making fully featured PCs? This is madness.
Pathfinder
Member
Pretty much.
jacob armitage
Banned
Seems like its been to a pretty scary level lately.
It'll be used for very low-end laptops (that aren't meant to play complex games to begin with) and that's about it. People who are willing to invest in a more powerful device won't be satisfied with a light version of Windows. It might be free for the OEM, but that's worth nothing if potential customers rather buy a competitor's product because it offers a more compelling package.
He's talking about the off chance that a person invested into PC gaming will somehow end up with this light version of Windows when these people will realistically pay attention that they are getting a proper Windows 10 version.
thepenguin55
Member
Holy crap. He's literally insane. His original argument against the Windows Store was reasonable if a bit unfounded but he's now just spouting madness.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Is anything on Chrome OS?
8-Bit Sunset
Banned
Don't take it to heart.
A lot of people seem to have a condition where even if they invest a tiny amount of their money in a company/service they will defend it to the death, regardless of their questionable actions.
Don't bring here that PR bullshit about security please.
And ChromeOS is not GNU/Linux, so it can't run GNU/Linux apps. Nothing to do with this artificial limitation.
That's nonsense and he knows it is. There are plenty of OS that OEM can use for free. The margins on such devices are low as is the demand. The idea that THIS is somehow an attempt to corner the market is nonsense. Either Sweeny knows this, or he's lost his mind.
OEMs are going to make the products that people want to buy... because they make money selling things.
That's one of the benefits is security, so what the hell are you talking about?
Pathfinder
Member
Well, that or people honestly think Tim's being hyperbolic and is freaking out over something he perceives in his own head to be true.
NoPiece
Member
It starts with low-end laptop, then mid-tier, them low end-desktops, then price goes up for pro to push more people to free version, etc.. It is so obviously completely in Microsoft's interest to do this, that is crazy to think they won't try. It is just how slowly they can attempt to roll it out without creating a backlash.
Security by obscurity is pretty much the opposite of security.
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