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[TemplaerDude]

Eating at Subway: I just don't get it.

What, you're so lazy you can't arrange your own cold cuts? This BIOSHOCK isn't rocket science, hell it isn't even Chinese Food which involves some skill and preparation before hand.

Any idiot can make a sandwich / hoagie / sub, and only an idiot would pay those f@ckers at Subway $6 for one.

The same goes for Quizno's, or as I prefer - Subway w/ Toaster Ovens.

i don't HAVE cold cuts and it would cost me twice as much to buy everything i want than it would to just get it at subway.

and yes, people are lazy. it's a sad fact of reality.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

kind of related: while I was in the Army, someone in my district was kicked out for putting a donation jar on the counter of his office. why? because the "donations" were being kept by the person who put the jar out. Said it was for some sick kid but really it was for drinking money at the end of the week.

enterprising, at least.

 

[SRG01]

If there's a tip jar, just bloody tip. It's polite.

10% if it's electronic. Anything that doesn't leave me with useless coins if it's cash.


If you're so stingy that you can't throw in a couple of dimes or quarters, what's wrong with you?

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Eating at Subway: I just don't get it.

What, you're so lazy you can't arrange your own cold cuts? This BIOSHOCK isn't rocket science, hell it isn't even Chinese Food which involves some skill and preparation before hand.

Any idiot can make a sandwich / hoagie / sub, and only an idiot would pay those f@ckers at Subway $6 for one.

The same goes for Quizno's, or as I prefer - Subway w/ Toaster Ovens.

I generally agree with this, but I always find myself throwing away $5-6 worth of deli meat/bread a week. It's more economical to pay for stuff on the McDonald's menu than it is to go to subway, but I kind of hope I live until I can retire when I'm 85.

If there's a tip jar, just bloody tip. It's polite.

10% if it's electronic. Anything that doesn't leave me with useless coins if it's cash.


If you're so stingy that you can't throw in a couple of dimes or quarters, what's wrong with you?

Where do you draw the line? Should we tip bank tellers? Cashiers? The Captain?

 

[SRG01]

I generally agree with this, but I always find myself throwing away $5-6 worth of deli meat/bread a week. It's more economical to pay for stuff on the McDonald's menu than it is to go to subway, but I kind of hope I live until I can retire when I'm 85.

For a while, I went to Subway everyday for dinner at school because I couldn't carry two meals with me in my bag.

Then I realized how expensive it was, so I just worked harder so I could go home earlier and eat better and cheaply. :lol

 

[TemplaerDude]

If there's a tip jar, just bloody tip. It's polite.

are you telling us we should feel obligated to tip them just because they put out a tip jar?

that's retarded.

 

[aoi tsuki]

I generally agree with this, but I always find myself throwing away $5-6 worth of deli meat/bread a week. It's more economical to pay for stuff on the McDonald's menu than it is to go to subway, but I kind of hope I live until I can retire when I'm 85.

Get freezer bags and put half of your meat and bread in the freezer. Either that or buy less. i'd much rather buy my own food and make it at home than have to rely on the mediocre at best service at most of these places.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

For a while, I went to Subway everyday for dinner at school because I couldn't carry two meals with me in my bag.

Then I realized how expensive it was, so I just worked harder so I could go home earlier and eat better and cheaply. :lol

It used to be so much easier to "eat fresh" when I worked at Subway . :lol

 

[BlackMage]

You can understand why Starbucks has tip jars but not Subway? You are fuckin' dumb. BTW, neither of these places should have tip jars.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Tip jars = lower wages.

Uh, subway pays minimum wage, no?




Tip jars at Subway = Tip jars at Starbucks. Tips anywhere that the people don't come out from behind the counter are absurd.

(I've never stepped foot in a starbucks so I don't know if these guys bring you coffee to your table or whatever)

If there's a tip jar, just bloody tip. It's polite.

10% if it's electronic. Anything that doesn't leave me with useless coins if it's cash.


If you're so stingy that you can't throw in a couple of dimes or quarters, what's wrong with you?

I hope you give every homeless dude you see with an open hand, cup, guitar box. I mean it's there waiting for money, be polite.

 

[Salmonax]

Tip jars are pointless anyway. By the time you split everything up, it ends up being almost insignificant.

 

[itsinmyveins]

I kinda wish we had tips like a "tradition" too, just because it seems like a nice thing to do. The only place I tip is at fancier resturants.

 

[cvxfreak]

I worked at Subway. We weren't allowed to accept tips for some reason. But I think a few months after I left they put a tip jar out. At a place like that, they don't really expect it but they certainly appreciate it.

Yeah, I use my CC at Subway since restaurants yield 5X rewards. There's no line on the sign form for tips.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Uh, subway pays minimum wage, no?




Tip jars at Subway = Tip jars at Starbucks. Tips anywhere that the people don't come out from behind the counter are absurd.

(I've never stepped foot in a starbucks so I don't know if these guys bring you coffee to your table or whatever)





I hope you give every homeless dude you see with an open hand, cup, guitar box. I mean it's there waiting for money, be polite.

They don't. You just have to wait for them to finish your drink. Sometimes I've been guilted into tipping dollars at coffeeshops because I only would get 10-20 cents in change and didn't want to come off as insulting.

 

[Y2Kev]

If you don't tip, you're going to get your food coughed on or poor service. Just a reality of the service industry. I've only spent a summer in it and I've seen what people do if you don't tip.

Tip. Even if it's just 10%.

You may not agree with it, but it happens almost automatically in my experience.

Edit: Tip jars are not insignificant. Depending on who I partner with for the night, I can FAR outdraw my hourly wage. There is one woman who I work with sometimes when I'm lucky. She is soooo good with the customers. Made 60 dollars in tips in three hours...just for me.

 

[Mike Works]

hahaha, pardon my apparent ignorance, but how the fuck does a starbucks barista obviously deserve a tip jar whereas a subway artist doesn't

i've been to subway and starbucks plenty of times, and the amount of effort they have to put into their jobs seems to be pretty fucking even to me

 

[Shouta]

Tips at a sub-shop = appreciated but not expected.

I worked at Quiznos for awhile and I always enjoyed getting tips but it was never an expectation. It was really nice when we got a decent chunk of change though. Best I ever did in tips for a single shift was 20 bucks.

 

[TemplaerDude]

If you don't tip, you're going to get your food coughed on or poor service. Just a reality of the service industry. I've only spent a summer in it and I've seen what people do if you don't tip.

Tip. Even if it's just 10%.

You may not agree with it, but it happens almost automatically in my experience.

where the hell do you live, some backwater hick city?

if you catch someone doing anything with your food here you sue them till they lose their job.

tipping is not a reality of any service industry. it's a choice.

 

[Ristamar]

I'm all in favor of tipping, in general (pizza delivery, restaurants, bars, etc), but I do not and will not tip at Starbucks or Subway, nor do I feel obligated because of the presence of a tip jar. That being said, I don't mind the tip jars, as long as a tip is not expected.

 

[Y2Kev]

where the hell do you live, some backwater hick city?

if you catch someone doing anything with your food here you sue them till they lose their job.

tipping is not a reality of any service industry. it's a choice.

I'm spending my summer 15 minutes outside of New York City, where I live during the year, so not quite.

Hey, you can fight it all you want. I agree that the tipping system is broken. But you want to talk about realities....don't tip...well, don't say I didn't warn you.

btw, I don't mean to come off as threatening or aggressive here. I don't mind when people don't tip unless it's a large order and gratuity would normally be included (not charged where I work). Anything over 60 bucks usually means a dollar tip would be nice for me. I split what I earn two ways.

 

[aoi tsuki]

hahaha, pardon my apparent ignorance, but how the fuck does a starbucks barista obviously deserve a tip jar whereas a subway artist doesn't

i've been to subway and starbucks plenty of times, and the amount of effort they have to put into their jobs seems to be pretty fucking even to me

Granted, i've never worked at a Subway or similar, but i've worked as a barista. You've got tons of drinks to memorize, along with terminology, and you have to be consistent and fast. i'd like to say there's more room for creativity, but it might be that it's just more appreciated in a coffeehouse setting than in a sub restaurant.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I'm spending my summer 15 minutes outside of New York City, where I live during the year, so not quite.

Hey, you can fight it all you want. I agree that the tipping system is broken. But you want to talk about realities....don't tip...well, don't say I didn't warn you.

btw, I don't mean to come off as threatening or aggressive here. I don't mind when people don't tip unless it's a large order and gratuity would normally be included (not charged where I work). Anything over 60 bucks usually means a dollar tip would be nice for me. I split what I earn two ways.

How is someone at Subway going to cough in my food? You sit there and watch them make it. Subway dude coughs in my food, I say forget this and walk out.

This thread really isn't about just plain tipping, this is about tipping at places that you usually wouldn't expect that you should.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

If you don't tip, you're going to get your food coughed on or poor service. Just a reality of the service industry. I've only spent a summer in it and I've seen what people do if you don't tip.

Tip. Even if it's just 10%.

You may not agree with it, but it happens almost automatically in my experience.

Edit: Tip jars are not insignificant. Depending on who I partner with for the night, I can FAR outdraw my hourly wage. There is one woman who I work with sometimes when I'm lucky. She is soooo good with the customers. Made 60 dollars in tips in three hours...just for me.

Man, these time machines are fucking awesome.


(how the fuck will someone spit in your food before you tip them?)

 

[BlackMage]

Granted, i've never worked at a Subway or similar, but i've worked as a barista. You've got tons of drinks to memorize, along with terminology, and you have to be consistent and fast. i'd like to say there's more room for creativity, but it might be that it's just more appreciated in a coffeehouse setting than in a sub restaurant.

oh please. I worked at Seattle's best and it's not fucking hard. You baby.

 

[Y2Kev]

How is someone at Subway going to cough in my food? You sit there and watch them make it. Subway dude coughs in my food, I say forget this and walk out.

This thread really isn't about just plain tipping, this is about tipping at places that you usually wouldn't expect that you should.

Granted, I shouldn't say my experience (I should note that I myself have not ever done anything to anyone's food) does not apply universally. However, if you go back a lot and they know you as a nontipper, I bet the server might not serve you so...enthusiastically.

And I agree, some things don't really need a tip jar, but I could see it here. I saw a tip jar at one register at the grocery store once...

Man, these time machines are fucking awesome.


(how the fuck will someone spit in your food before you tip them?)

Where I work, all transactions with cash are taken care of before any of the food is given to the customers. Also, you have repeat customers.

 

[BlackMage]

Man, these time machines are fucking awesome.


(how the fuck will someone spit in your food before you tip them?)

exactly. nobody usually tips until they get their food/drink anyway. And places like subway and Starbucks, you can see what they are doing the whole time.

 

[MoxManiac]

I saw a tip jar at a dunkin donuts. I drink my coffee black, i'm not going to tip you for holding a handle down for a few seconds.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Where I work, all transactions with cash are taken care of before any of the food is given to the customers. Also, you have repeat customers.

So where you work, people expect a tip before doing a single thing?


Roofles.

 

[aoi tsuki]

oh please. I worked at Seattle's best and it's not fucking hard. You baby.

i never said it was hard. It was rather easy (and fun) to me because i like working with coffee. i was just saying that there's a lot more to the job that hitting pouring coffee into a cup. i'm sure the same could be said for Subway, but i've never worked there so i'm oblivious to the things that go on behind the scenes.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Do people tip surgeons?

If not, how come? Is it because they make more money? Are tips solely in place to subsidize restaurant costs?

I mean, I understand food-service employees work hard for shitty wages. I've worked in that business before. But if consumers dollars are being spent so the owners don't have to pay their employees a fair wage, that's bullshit. A tip should be reserved for service that is above and beyond exceptional, and shouldn't be shoved in our faces in the form of a tip cup.

BTW, I always tip anywhere there's a tip cup or anytime I'm being served or go to a stylist. Hell, I'll tip my mechanic if I feel he's being fair and honest. But our tips should be used in addition to a fair wage, not something to make up for a lack of one.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Do people tip surgeons?

If not, how come? Is it because they make more money? Are tips solely in place to subsidize restaurant costs?

I mean, I understand food-service employees work hard for shitty wages. I've worked in that business before. But if consumers dollars are being spent so the owners don't have to pay their employees a fair wage, that's bullshit. A tip should be reserved for service that is above and beyond exceptional, and shouldn't be shoved in our faces in the form of a tip cup.

BTW, I always tip anywhere there's a tip cup or anytime I'm being served or go to a stylist. Hell, I'll tip my mechanic if I feel he's being fair and honest. But our tips should be used in addition to a fair wage, not something to make up for a lack of one.

Prepare to be labeled a cheapskate, stingy, poor, and/or asshole for your logic

 

[Stoney Mason]

You should read the op better. Making the coffee is a more delicate blend of syrups, espressos and milk that a good barista should mix properly (and very easy to screw up)

I don't mean to insult anybody but making coffee isn't exactly painting a beautiful sunset. I'm sure you're following a set of instructions. Pretty much the same way I made a burger when I worked at McDonald's a long time ago.

 

[Y2Kev]

So where you work, people expect a tip before doing a single thing?

Well, somewhat. Like I said, you have certain cases where it is pretty common, like large orders or orders for specialty items.

But I should comment that the system at where I work is a bit different than most restaurants, so the layout might not make sense if I didn't explain it.

But the details are sort of minutia. I completely agree with the premise that tipping is/should be optional and certainly not required.

But there are certain realities that I've seen (and didn't expect before I got behind the counter, honestly) that I just thought I'd say.

And I have started too many sentences with conjunctions.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I don't mean to insult anybody but making coffee isn't exactly painting a beautiful sunset. I'm sure you're following a set of instructions. Pretty much the same way I made a burger when I worked at McDonald's a long time ago.

It shouldn't be that hard, but I have had plenty of idiots scald my milk or not pack the grounds enough and ruin my latte. Poor me I know but making good coffee is a bit more complicated than some people realize. You can put the same amount of love into a burger, but most people don't.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Granted, I shouldn't say my experience (I should note that I myself have not ever done anything to anyone's food) does not apply universally. However, if you go back a lot and they know you as a nontipper, I bet the server might not serve you so...enthusiastically.

And I agree, some things don't really need a tip jar, but I could see it here. I saw a tip jar at one register at the grocery store once...



Where I work, all transactions with cash are taken care of before any of the food is given to the customers. Also, you have repeat customers.

I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't apply to places like Subway. This isn't a restaurant where the waiter can ignore you and give you bad service. You walk into Subway and there is a guy behind a glass counter of meat. No middleman. And I really don't think Subway employees are on the lookout for non-tippers. Nobody is tipping the Subway guy $3 for a $5 meal. People just throw their change in there.

And I've never in my life tipped someone before I got what I asked for. Even places where you pay cash before your food comes out, I don't throw out the tip into the jar until I get my stuff.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Prepare to be labeled a cheapskate, stingy, poor, and/or asshole for your logic

Nah, GAF is filled with world class people who understand people have different opinions. Besides, I always tip for the most basic of service...I just don't feel we should have to. It's not as if I want the employees to make less money; rather, I feel their owners should be paying them more to begin with.

 

[Y2Kev]

I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't apply to places like Subway. This isn't a restaurant where the waiter can ignore you and give you bad service. You walk into Subway and there is a guy behind a glass counter of meat. No middleman. And I really don't think Subway employees are on the lookout for non-tippers. Nobody is tipping the Subway guy $3 for a $5 meal. People just throw their change in there.

Of course. You are right. As far as amounts, I'm really satisfied with the left over quarter someone might take away with them. A quarter might not seem like much, but over the course of the night it can really build up.

And I've never in my life tipped someone before I got what I asked for. Even places where you pay cash before your food comes out, I don't throw out the tip into the jar until I get my stuff.

It happens quite often for me, but it might be because we kind of have a local crowd and a large part of the customer base is pretty familiar with the establishment.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, I use my CC at Subway since restaurants yield 5X rewards. There's no line on the sign form for tips.

what credit card do you have?

 

[MoxManiac]

I want you guys to tip me after I craft every single one of my wonderful, wonderful forum posts.

 

[Polari]

No-one ever tips me for my slightly above minimum-wage job selling furnishings and fabrics, and sometimes I spend literally hours with customers who spend thousands of dollars. So fuck the hospitality industry and fuck tipping.

 

[TwinsDad]

It shouldn't be that hard, but I have had plenty of idiots scald my milk or not pack the grounds enough and ruin my latte. Poor me I know but making good coffee is a bit more complicated than some people realize. You can put the same amount of love into a burger, but most people don't.

Forgive my lack of professional taste buds in coffee, but how in the world does not tamping down the grounds "ruin" a latte? Bad taste, grounds in the latte?

I have had burned milk before, it's aweful, but rare.

 

[Tarazet]

No-one ever tips me for my slightly above minimum-wage job selling furnishings and fabrics, and sometimes I spend literally hours with customers who spend thousands of dollars. So fuck the hospitality industry and fuck tipping.

Find a commission job.

 

[aoi tsuki]

Forgive my lack of professional taste buds in coffee, but how in the world does not tamping down the grounds "ruin" a latte? Bad taste, grounds in the latte?

I have had burned milk before, it's aweful, but rare.

There's less pressure on the hot water as it flows through the grinds, which pulls much less of the flavor from them.

i always prefer to pack the grinds in there rather than filling it "properly", because you get a full-flavored shots. That's how i prefer it for myself, and how my customers preferred it.

 

[cvxfreak]

what credit card do you have?

A Chase United Mileage.

 

[timmy]

Eating at Subway: I just don't get it.

 

[Forgotten Ancient]

Eating at Subway: I just don't get it.

TToB just does it better.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

i don't HAVE cold cuts and it would cost me twice as much to buy everything i want than it would to just get it at subway.

Does your mommy still do the grocery shopping?

Buying the same ingredients you get at Subway and preparing it at home is cheaper, lasts longer, and feeds you for several days versus one meal.

I generally agree with this, but I always find myself throwing away $5-6 worth of deli meat/bread a week.

You have to make an exact science of it, I had the same problem initially; but since I'm so frugal and was raised to not waste food - I drive the deli at the grocery store nuts when I order specific numbers of meats. So say 12 slices of hard salami, three beef bologna, and 16 sandwich pepperoni. That would make three larger than Subway BMT style subs at home. for the cost of two dinky ass Subway sandwiches.

Not to mention for the same amount you waste at Subway - you could go get some delicious home cooked food depending on your area, and I freakin' live in that shitter Cleveland; so if I can do it and you don't live in Iowa, you've got no excuse to be wasting money at Subway.

And don't get me started on the whole "Eat fresh" lie. >:|

 

[DarkGiygas]

There's less pressure on the hot water as it flows through the grinds, which pulls much less of the flavor from them.

i always prefer to pack the grinds in there rather than filling it "properly", because you get a full-flavored shots. That's how i prefer it for myself, and how my customers preferred it.

At mine you just put the beans in the top and the machine does the rest...I think they're fairly new machines though, I've been there just under 2 months. I get on average $10-20 a week in tips lol.

<insert annoying giant emoticon with big smile and eyes looking up>


EDIT: Stay away from the "meatball" tub at Subway.

 

[Mojovonio]

I used to manage a Subway.

If you guys knew how ill-treated the food there is, you would realize the tip jar is actually for you, the customer to take some sort of compensation.

But seriously, the tps are useless.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

If you guys knew how ill-treated the food there is, you would realize the tip jar is actually for you, the customer to take some sort of compensation.

EAT FRESH!:lol