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Tipping for Delivery food?

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didn't follow the whole thread but i am confused about the mechanics of this: how would this actually work realistically? I mean after not getting tipped, are they gonna grab the order and go "brb" or are they doing pre-emptive strikes in case they won't get tipped? Then after they DO get tipped unexpectedly, are they gonna go "yo buddy i'd leave aside the 3rd pizza slice from the left if i were you"

I think its assuming you order food from the same place a lot and never tip so the driver knows it or something.
 
The idea is that if you order from a place multiple times, they know your habits. Or if you order from a place multiple times and happen to get a driver who remembers your address, they may fuck with the food.

I would gladly go out of my way to make sure you never deliver food from that place again, if I find that the food has been fucked with. Pretty sure the owners could do without the bad press as well.
 
didn't follow the whole thread but i am confused about the mechanics of this: how would this actually work realistically? I mean after not getting tipped, are they gonna grab the order and go "brb" or are they doing pre-emptive strikes in case they won't get tipped? Then after they DO get tipped unexpectedly, are they gonna go "yo buddy i'd leave aside the 3rd pizza slice from the left if i were you"

When i used to deliver i would have like 5 orders at a time, all of them in equal distance.
If i knew they would tip good, they were up first, if i knew they never tip, they would be last to serve.
 
You tip, or you go pick it up yourself.



Fact of life; you mess with people's income, they're going to do nasty shit.
You make it sound like an entitlement, like if they don't tip them, you're as good as swiping their wallet.

You're part of the problem dude.
 
That is not defending it. It's pointing out the obvious.

If you fuck with someone's food, you're an asshole. If you do not tip someone who earns their wages via tipping, you're an asshole. Neither is justifiable, though I'd rather someone take three bucks from me than spit in my food.
If you mess with someone's food, you are indeed a reprehensible fuckwit.

Not tipping someone might be considered tight, mean even, but it ain't even remotely the same thing.

One is refusing to conform to social pressures and being a little tight, the other is being seriously disrespectful, utterly infantile and unapologetically disgusting. They are on opposite ends of the scale man.
 
My dad used to run a restaraunt, and he used to give more toppings/cheese/items in general to the people who tipped well, and he also was more likely to deliver to them first if he had multiple orders. Otherwise, if you didn't tip, you were just treated normally, but you probably got your orders finished last and delivered last. Not a big deal really.
 
I typically tip $2.50 $3.00... and last month a Jimmy Johns guy recognized me at the local dive and called me by my name and said they were all very thankful for my courtesy. It was nice and creepy at the same time! (I mean this dude knows my name and where I live)
 
I typically tip $2.50 $3.00... and last month a Jimmy Johns guy recognized me at the local dive and called me by my name and said they were all very thankful for my courtesy. It was nice and creepy at the same time! (I mean this dude knows my name and where I live)
You eat too much Jimmy Johns
 
As I've previously stated, I do tip around 15% because the driver is dependent on it, but man, the tipping system is such a fucking BS system.

1) It puts the onus on the customer to, essentially, punish the employee. Because the customer is also at risk of having their food messed with, this is inherently a very flawed system. Like was previously stated, do you think an employee is going to understand that they did poorly and take that into account? Fuck no; they'll hold a grudge and, if they're of the type, mess with the food/deliver last next time.

2) It also puts the onus of punishment onto someone who won't know the whole situation--if the driver was made late by the place being busy, a screwed-up order in the kitchen, flat tire, etc.--All things an employer would have the time and ability to understand over the course of the employment. The customer wouldn't, and may not tip well because of it. Here, the employee is being screwed over, as well.

3) Cheap or "principled" customer will not tips, regardless of service quality. This, once again, screws the driver.

The only person it really helps consistently is the business: they get to pay drivers a shit wage and pass the delivery charge directly onto the customer. BTW, fuck you if you charge $5 for delivery and pay your driver $0.25 of it or $2/hour. You didn't drive it there, asshole, so don't take the pay for it; if you expect me to pay for your driver directly, don't make me do it twice. Because of this, the business gets to maintain the appearance of "affordable" pizza and still not have to pay their drivers a decent wage themselves. They couldn't give two fucks if the employee gets tips or not, which means they have no reason to make sure they're paid a fair wage. It's BS.

There should just always be either a flat rate or increased prices for delivered items. That way, the customer is not put in danger of being treated poorly, the employee is protected from being wrongfully screwed out of a tip, the drivers would have base wage to live off of, the employers would be forced to pay a decent wage, and the cheapskates will have to pay their fair share. With this system--assuming it's a flat rate that goes mostly to the driver--a good driver would still make more money than a poor one. It's win-win. And if a bad driver is consistently under-performing, the onus is on the employer to dole out "punishment" as required--someone who is not nearly as vulnerable as a customer getting food delivered.

Just my 2c, though.
 
If you mess with someone's food, you are indeed a reprehensible fuckwit.

Not tipping someone might be considered tight, mean even, but it ain't even remotely the same thing.

One is refusing to conform to social pressures and being a little tight, the other is being seriously disrespectful, utterly infantile and unapologetically disgusting. They are on opposite ends of the scale man.
Yeah, I wasn't arguing they are the same.
I would gladly go out of my way to make sure you never deliver food from that place again, if I find that the food has been fucked with. Pretty sure the owners could do without the bad press as well.
Yeah, everyone would. Chances are you would never notice it though. And you can bet that if you are caught fucking with someone's food and there is evidence of it, you'll find that they are in a lot more trouble than just losing their job.

On an unrelated note, one time we had a lady call up the place claiming she had rat droppings on her pizza. As if the pizza somehow got shit on in the process of going from pizza-table -> oven -> cutting table.
 
Here's a recent development that's impacting my tipping: Used to be, delivery folks would arrive at my apt building front door and buzz me from the intercom, I'd go downstairs and let them in and get my food. What's been happening more often lately is that they phone me and say "Your food is here". Then I go downstairs to let them in, but they aren't there yet. They phone from their car and they're still looking for a parking spot while I stand there and wait for them like a chump. From now on, when I catch them doing this shit, I'm stiffing them on the tip.
 
minimum $5. add one on if it's early, and another if the weather sucks (too hot, snowy, rainy)
Most I've ever tipped for delivery was $10 because it was really shitty weather, the driver was an old man, and he got it to my door in a little more than half the time they quoted me on the phone.
 
Several years ago, when I was working as a pizza delivery driver in Corinth, TX, this guy ordered 4 different orders in one day, and every time gave me correct change. His house was on the edge of the map, which was 20 miles away from the store. The third time he complained about me taking so long and never said thank you. After work that night I set his front yard on fire.

Tip your delivery drivers.
 
someone has to be last. ;) if you care that much, then you'd tip, otherwise, don't.
I wouldn't call getting the last order being treated normally. I've never had to deal with a place that works with tips, but when I ever visit the US, it'll be the first thing I ask the waiter. Then I'll tell him to get a real job.
Arguing about tips is stupid, if drivers were paid normally, your $10 pizza would become $13-15 bucks.
Apparently it already is $13-15 since you're supposed to tip. Technically prices would not increase at all, it's just that the hidden fees and shitty marketing tricks would finally disappear. People in this thread have brought forth many arguments why regular wages are better than relying on tips, read the thread.

America, let go of tipping and use price tags with taxes included already.
 
I always give out generous tips, simply because I am high-class.

A lot of you wouldn't know what that's like.
 
I skimmed the thread but didn't see this covered:

When I use GrubHub or Seamless (I guess they're merging now), and I tip online with my credit card, does the delivery guy see any of it? I love paying by card, but I have a feeling I should keep cash on hand for the dude that brings it.
 
I never tip for delivery, sometimes I'll leave change

Reason being is our delivery drivers get paid a full wage.

Fucking with someone's food is never justified
 
I've always been doing something like 2x the tax for my tip... but I've been wondering... wouldn't a flat tip rate make more sense? It's like not it requires more effort to deliver 10 lbs of food vs 5 lbs.

hmmm anyhow, how much do you usually tip your pizza boy?

Really? Basing the tip on the weight of the food is just Seinfeld level silly.

I just tip between 2-3 dollars if its a cheap order 10-15 bucks.
 
I don't usually tip at all for deliveries, they're getting paid for it so making it an obligation seems odd to me - I'm not their employer.

I have occasionally tipped or told a driver to keep the change if the food arrived particularly quickly though.

in the uk before anyone gets mad
 
I skimmed the thread but didn't see this covered:

When I use GrubHub or Seamless (I guess they're merging now), and I tip online with my credit card, does the delivery guy see any of it? I love paying by card, but I have a feeling I should keep cash on hand for the dude that brings it.

The restaurant should be giving cash to the delivery person who is representing delivery service. I don't think there is a way around it since the delivery guy can see the receipt and demand his cash. But cash upon delivery is still easier for them and the restaurant.

Anyhoooo, The Oatmeal had a tipping comic.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tipping_tooting

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http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tipping_tooting
 
If I'm in the US, I'll round it up to the closest two dollars (15.14? He be getting 17. 19.20? He be getting a 20).

In the UK, he gets 0.
Because you don't deserve a tip in the UK.
 
Ever go to pick up food you've ordered and have to sign off on it? There's usually a tip section. I feel like a bastard for leaving it blank even though I'm the one who's picking up the damn food. Guilt trips :(
 
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