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[KimiNewt]

I just want to remind you guys that Elebits which uses the WiiConnect 24 in order to exchange maps uses the Wii's internal Friend Code.
And also that PBR, which does use a different friend code, is using the DS network in order to be able to play DS Diamond/Pearl users, so that is the reason.

Anyway, I don't believe these news, but we'll see.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

This thread is going places. First off, falafalkid asking 3 times about LISTS, then 1UP quoting him and twisting that into CODES and the masses of cavemen fall for it.

"OH NOES, the CODES am kill us"

Then some cro-magnum men try to corrent them.

"LISTS not equal CODES"

But one caveman slings feces at them and take the discussion in a new dirrection...

"Wii do equal CUBE though, unga me make FUNNY"

Now here comes the head cavemen with big ban clubs and close topic locks. Carnage ensues, none are safe, the caves will flow with the urine of smelly cavemen who can't read.

 

[Icarus]

Who are you calling a cave man?

Spoiler

I'm still holding out hope for sanity on this issue from Nintendo... not insanity of game specific codes

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

And Nintendo were on such a roll, they have to go and **** things up. Why am I not surprised?

If they wanted to keep the FC system but make it better all they had to do was use the built in address book, but nope that's too complicated for Nintendo to figure out!

The way I would have done it is tie it in to the parental controls. If parental controls are activated and the person is younger than 17 (Since 13 year olds could still be considered at risk from Pedobear) then you would be subject to the same restrictions as the DS online service. If parental controls are not activiated, then there should be no restrictions at all and you should be able to add people to your Wii's address book within the game itself.

 

[Pud]

And Nintendo were on such a roll, they have to go and **** things up. Why am I not surprised?

If they wanted to keep the FC system but make it better all they had to do was use the built in address book, but nope that's too complicated for Nintendo to figure out!

The way I would have done it is tie it in to the parental controls. If parental controls are activated and the person is younger than 17 (Since 13 year olds could still be considered at risk from Pedobear) then you would be subject to the same restrictions as the DS online service. If parental controls are not activiated, then there should be no restrictions at all and you should be able to add people to your Wii's address book within the game itself.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

"Hey, if we knew you people still existed, we wouldn't have rattled your caves..."

"What do you mean...you people?"

 

[Game-Biz]

 

[Avrum]

"4356 7624 8723 9539 wants to be your friend. Will you accept the invite?"

I'm still not understanding where people are getting that your code = your online alias from.

 

[.dmc]

This thread is going places. First off, falafalkid asking 3 times about LISTS, then 1UP quoting him and twisting that into CODES and the masses of cavemen fall for it.

Falefal kid himself is inferring that this will mean compiling a LIST of new friend CODES for each game, so don't blame other sites for taking him out of context.

 

[Lobster]

Wait..isn't this a good thing? Now I know who CAN and CAN NOT play SSBB with me!

 

[impirius]

This thread is going places. First off, falafalkid asking 3 times about LISTS, then 1UP quoting him and twisting that into CODES and the masses of cavemen fall for it.

"OH NOES, the CODES am kill us"

Then some cro-magnum men try to corrent them.

"LISTS not equal CODES"

But one caveman slings feces at them and take the discussion in a new dirrection...

"Wii do equal CUBE though, unga me make FUNNY"

Now here comes the head cavemen with big ban clubs and close topic locks. Carnage ensues, none are safe, the caves will flow with the urine of smelly cavemen who can't read.

I've been trying for ten minutes to think of a worthy response to this post, but... I got nothin.

 

[Cosmozone]

Only five pages? I expected an uproar. However it will play out in the end I'm interested to hear Reggie's comments on Nintendo's online agenda.

 

[HisshouBuraiKen]

Lists is fine, I read that as re-pick the same people for your built-in address book onto each list. Gay but acceptable.

Codes is back-asswards retarded.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

I'm interested to hear Reggie's comments on Nintendo's online agenda.

You'll have to get his friend's code first. :lol

 

[Cosmozone]

You'll have to get his friend's code first. :lol

For all the games he plays?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Didn't Nintendo ban people from sharing friend codes on their forum, though?:lol

Anyway, IF Wii online is an exact duplicate of DS online then this is sad day for Nintendo fans.

That's all types of stupid that suggests their online philosophy is flawed and doesn't bode well for the console online.

When Nintendo finally reveals their online details and confirms you'll need to enter in friend codes for individual titles, I am going to write them an e-mail about it every single day. I will wake up in the morning, prepare a bowl of cereal, sit down at my computer, and unload a vitriol ball of nerd rage unlike any I've written before. Years of repressed whiny consumer hatred will be embodied in the form of text, then delivered instantly to Nintendo's minimum wage monkey staff. It won't do a damn thing, of course, and I imagine those lowly e-mail representatives won't even read it, but that's irrelevant - this will be therapy. Therapy for a battered spouse, at the cost of five minutes per day.

Hey brother, I am with you on that. I know that stuff like this doesn't work always. But every now and then you get a glimmer of hope that consumer reaction can change a company perspective. I can remember a few times when our reaction forced Nintendo to rethink some things. 1st, the black Gamecube. I got mine at launch. But they didn't think it was necessary until enough people bitched about it. I wrote an email. Apparently, enough people did too. Hey, if GAF can sway retarded shit, like GameFAQ polls or what have you, we should try for this shit. Nobody on this board can defend FC as a reasonable alternative to a single universal friend list.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

Nintendo Online = BAD

Yet most people don't even know what WFC is or how it works! These people don't know the difference between friend lists and friend codes. Most people think that the friend code is even the user name of each player. Most people don't even realize that the features of WFC have grown beyond that of Mario Kart & Tetris. Most people are ignoring that PokeMon uses a seperate friend code system 'cos it connects to the NDS PokeMon games that require it. Most people are ignoring the fact that Elebits does not do this and instead uses the system's built-in friend code address book!

Conclussion = most people are cavemen

 

[dog$]

A conclussion is a conclusive concussion.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I posted this thought in B3D, couldn't Nintendo release a memory card that goes in the GB slot of the DS making it a storage space for your friendcode eliminating the need to have a friendcode for every game released.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Nintendo Online = BAD

Yet most people don't even know what WFC is or how it works! These people don't know the difference between friend lists and friend codes. Most people think that the friend code is even the user name of each player. Most people don't even realize that the features of WFC have grown beyond that of Mario Kart & Tetris. Most people are ignoring that PokeMon uses a seperate friend code system 'cos it connects to the NDS PokeMon games that require it. Most people are ignoring the fact that Elebits does not do this and instead uses the system's built-in friend code address book!

Conclussion = most people are cavemen

I don't think people are ignoring their online accomplishments but responding to Nintendo's history. Online has been awful in their implementation. Fact. Now, recently, we have a story that inadequately addresses the main concerns with their online plans from their online partner. It's confusing as hell and you can't make definitive statements about their online plans either way. So, people aren't necessarily cavemen to assume the worst. We don't have any information. But you don't have to resort to namecalling if we offend you. You can't debate this without being a douche about it? When Nintendo resisted online for so long, it's not normal to assume the worst? Do we have to keep giving them a free pass for everything? At which point can we criticize Nintendo about their decisions in the past and lack of information today? Will you tell me when Easter is over so we can criticize Nintendo?

 

[Servbot #42]

since i don`t feel like reading this whole thread....was this confirmed by either nintendo or gamespy?

 

[The Hermit]

And Nintendo were on such a roll, they have to go and **** things up. Why am I not surprised?

If they wanted to keep the FC system but make it better all they had to do was use the built in address book, but nope that's too complicated for Nintendo to figure out!

The way I would have done it is tie it in to the parental controls. If parental controls are activated and the person is younger than 17 (Since 13 year olds could still be considered at risk from Pedobear) then you would be subject to the same restrictions as the DS online service. If parental controls are not activiated, then there should be no restrictions at all and you should be able to add people to your Wii's address book within the game itself.

Is there any parental controls in the Wii right now? I´m curious about it since they anounced Manhunt 2 for the Wii...

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I don't think people are ignoring their online accomplishments but responding to Nintendo's history. Online has been awful in their implementation. Fact. Now, recently, we have a story that inadequately addresses the main concerns with their online plans from their online partner. It's confusing as hell and you can't make definitive statements about their online plans either way. So, people aren't necessarily cavemen to assume the worst. We don't have any information. But you don't have to resort to namecalling if we offend you. You can't debate this without being a douche about it? When Nintendo resisted online for so long, it's not normal to assume the worst? Do we have to keep giving them a free pass for everything? At which point can we criticize Nintendo about their decisions in the past and lack of information today? Will you tell me when Easter is over so we can criticize Nintendo?

If you look past any "offensive" things, DrGakman does have a point. Pokemon Wii uses traditional friend codes because it has to interface directly with the DS Pokemon games. Elebits uses the system address book for your friends. That right there represents a change for the better in Nintendo's online functionality.

I'm thinking that by different friends list for each game, Gamespy means from that pool of friends in your address book, you would have to pick and choose your friends for each particular game. Hopefully by checking a box rather than having to re-inputing that 12-digit number for the game. But as we all know, it is too early and we have too little info to make any rash decisions... History aside.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

If you look past any "offensive" things, DrGakman does have a point. Pokemon Wii uses traditional friend codes because it has to interface directly with the DS Pokemon games. Elebits uses the system address book for your friends. That right there represents a change for the better in Nintendo's online functionality.

I'm thinking that by different friends list for each game, Gamespy means from that pool of friends in your address book, you would have to pick and choose your friends for each particular game. Hopefully by checking a box rather than having to re-inputing that 12-digit number for the game. But as we all know, it is too early and we have too little info to make any rash decisions... History aside.

He does. But why can't it be one universal list? The same list that's in your console?

 

[gregor7777]

No matter how you slice it, having to deal with a 12 digit number for anything am fail.

There isn't one single good reason why in this day and age I need to remember any string of numbers over 3 digits except my social security number.

Humanity just took a big step back, all in the name of "casual" gamers. God help us all.

 

[DrGAKMAN]

He does. But why can't it be one universal list? The same list that's in your console?

Where does falafalkid OR gamespy say anything about friend codes or the address book? They don't, it's implied by 1UP.com that friend lists = friend codes, when that just isn't the case.

I say caveman 'cos I've reiterated almost to the point of using a blunt club this same point OVER and OVER again. Which is: lists do not equal codes.

I can understand the history of what people think about Nintendo's past in regards to online, I can understand assuming the worst, but basically jumping to conclussions and blindly ignoring the Elebits vs PokeMon contradiction, the lists vs codes definition and even the credibility of falafalkid's question, gamespy's answer & 1Up's twisting headline...it makes me wanna choke'a'bitch!

It's like people don't even read anymore, they just complain without even reading what they're complaining about.

Granted, if we have to enter a new friend code for each friend in each game...that is pretty asstastic, but Elebit's already shows us that won't be the case in some if not most games. The option is there to use the address book already, do you really think that 3RD parties or even Nintendo themselves are gonna require a friend code for each game when the capacity to use the address book is already built-in?

 

[Phife Dawg]

Since Falafelkid's post doesn't say anything about unique friendcodes for each game and neither nintendo, nor gamespy have confirmed anything in this regard I'll wait.

Having to drag you friends onto friend lists from the adress book would be no big deal for me. Adding friends for each game, each with their unique friend code on top of adding people to my adress book for WiiConnect24 would be retarded though. If this goes down we should all do what one poster suggested and just drop tons of e-mails on Nintendo.

Is there any parental controls in the Wii right now? I´m curious about it since they anounced Manhunt 2 for the Wii...

There are parental controls. And nintendo expectedly used this when Manhunt2 was revealed: Don't like the thought of your children playing Manhunt2? Use our parental controls.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Sorry for the old bump but I didn't want Matt Assamasina to get another thread. Hell, why does Luke have a 1000 post thread. Either way, latest Wii mailbag keeps the bad news rolling on FC. Fuggin Nintendo. Gimped. Iwata has a wooden leg. You heard it hear first.

I haven't heard anything about that. From what we can tell, outreach to third parties is at an all-time high for Nintendo. All of the major studios and even the smaller ones have Wii development hardware and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection SDKs have been available for months. I know this because I've got copies of the documentation sitting on my desktop. (Friend codes are mentioned all over the place, so get used to the idea, by the way.) I wouldn't worry too much. Third parties are indeed lining up to develop for Wii, but Nintendo is accommodating them.

http://wii.ign.com/mail/
Not confirmation or anything. But I guess we just have to accept it. Pfft. They can do their whole non-gamer schtick and still at least recognize gamers, right? What in the name of hell?

 

[PowerSmell]

So the whole Elebits using the Wii's internal freind code was just a one-off? Is that possible?

 

[DefectiveReject]

So the whole Elebits using the Wii's internal freind code was just a one-off? Is that possible?

Could possibly be friends code specific games, but it’ll only let you play those who’s friends code is on your Wii.

 

[AniHawk]

Sounds cool. I love Friends codes. And no, that's not sarcasm. I like inputting codes into a screen by just pointing. I consider it incredibly entertaining.

 

[DefectiveReject]

Sounds cool. I love Friends codes. And no, that's not sarcasm. I like inputting codes into a screen by just pointing. I consider it incredibly entertaining.

Anti-Sarcasm??


Anyway why does GAF keep logging me out! DAMMIT

 

[AniHawk]

Anti-Sarcasm??

ANTIHAWK

 

[Vagabundo]

It doesnt seem right when a friend could be imported from the systems friend list. There is no additional security in allowing per game codes.

Maybe there will be an easier way of sharing them, the UI has been pretty intuitive so far.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

I know this because I've got copies of the documentation sitting on my desktop. (Friend codes are mentioned all over the place, so get used to the idea, by the way.)

Mentioned in what context? Are there game-specific codes, like the DS, or do you just use the friend code from the Wii address book? There are plenty of other questions, but as per usual for IGN we get a little "Hey, I'm in the know" line and then nothing further. Useless.

 

[Vagabundo]

You know I'm not downing on Matt, but maybe he is not reading the docs right??

 

[guise]

I didn't think it was possible, but after 2 weeks of using xbox live i now hate friend codes even more

 

[Cheerilee]

So the whole Elebits using the Wii's internal freind code was just a one-off? Is that possible?

I imagine Nintendo's instruction book tells devs how to make game-specific friend codes, but if devs already know how to make their own internets, then they don't need to read the instruction book. Or they can read it and say "This part is dumb. It would be better if I did it like this" and then do something else.

 

[Vagabundo]

I imagine Nintendo's instruction book tells devs how to make game-specific friend codes, but if devs already know how to make their own internets, then they don't need to read the instruction book. Or they can read it and say "This part is dumb. It would be better if I did it like this" and then do something else.

I think game devs will not want to use specific friend codes that users have to type in. They will want it a easy as possible, within the restrictions of Nintendo online.

 

[Bildi]

Friendlists are Title-specific. Okay. Why didn't he ask about Friendcodes!??

Exactly.

You people need to learn how to read. Repeat 10 times:

"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"
"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"

 

[TheGreatDave]

I still have faith. Nintendo would say in documentation that all titles must only allow communication between people that have registered friend codes, but there is absolutely no reason at all not to lift the address book from your Wii and put it in games. They've said shit like "Well, you may not want somebody you race against in Mario Kart in your Animal Crossing town" but Nintendo can't possibly lack the technology to allow people to at least import a select few or block people from certain games.

Obviously there probably won't be too many games on Wii I plan on playing online a great deal, but come on. I get Friend Codes. They'd be fine under the scenario that you had one unique one person. Nintendo are just as safe politically, this just screams "poorly designed system"

 

[Vagabundo]

Exactly.

You people need to learn how to read. Repeat 10 times:

"CODE" DOES NOT EQUAL "LIST"

I think the fact that people are getting confused means that Nintendo needs to step in and clear it up. We should know for sure in couple of weeks, Mario Strikers is being released here.

 

[PoliceCop]

Having you input friend codes for every game is Nintendo's way of artificially lengthening games.

 

[StevieP]

Having you input friend codes for every game is Nintendo's way of artificially lengthening games.

And yet it's still more entertaining than Rare fetch-quests.

 

[Vagabundo]

Having you input friend codes for every game is Nintendo's way of artificially lengthening games.

TROLL ALERT. We need ACID or FIRE.. ACID OR FIRE!!!!

 

[Bildi]

I think the fact that people are getting confused means that Nintendo needs to step in and clear it up. We should know for sure in couple of weeks, Mario Strikers is being released here.

Waiting to see how the system works before throwing a tantrum sounds like a great idea.

Gaming Age Forum = Drama Queen Central.

 

[Phife Dawg]

I still have faith. Nintendo would say in documentation that all titles must only allow communication between people that have registered friend codes, but there is absolutely no reason at all not to lift the address book from your Wii and put it in games. They've said shit like "Well, you may not want somebody you race against in Mario Kart in your Animal Crossing town" but Nintendo can't possibly lack the technology to allow people to at least import a select few or block people from certain games.

Obviously there probably won't be too many games on Wii I plan on playing online a great deal, but come on. I get Friend Codes. They'd be fine under the scenario that you had one unique one person. Nintendo are just as safe politically, this just screams "poorly designed system"

Uh? Why would they do that? You can have communication via DS WFC between people that have NOT registered each other.

Is this just your assumption or did you infact have a look at the dosumentation?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

I didn't think it was possible, but after 2 weeks of using xbox live i now hate friend codes even more

God, I love that avatar.

 

[EphemeralDream]

It would be nice if Nintendo, you know, actually detailed their online plans but I guess they really don't have anything to show off. I say just wait the month or so before the first online game comes out because this second-hand information is never definitive.