I‘m only trying to counter the fervent fanboyism around the game. It’s become a control point in a culture war and arguably deserves to be. I’m a big From Software fan and can admit that Dark Souls II was not good. I don’t like blind allegiance.
If there's one thing Naught Dog doesn't like, its the far right of anything.
When you're far left, even centrists will look like far right to you.
That's fair but always remember millions of people loving a game should not be denoted as blind allegiance. Many journalists loving a game should not be denoted as blind allegiance. The most important part of the game is where you spend your 30 hours pressing buttons and using the analog, if that part, the gameplay loop is awesome, it's diverse, it's smooth and accessible, it makes you think, it makes you try different things, it's tense but also responsive, then the developer has done it's part. Games are about engagement and LOU seems to have satisfied millions of persons.....It happens sometimes that a game does not connect with you for one reason or another, but there are no issues with LOU2 from it's gameplay loop and meta, it's where it excels and is what is satisfying to many gamers. That is why you will see many people asking for Factions, because of that. The gameplay is even more satisfying when you see the animation, movement speed, gore, sound cues all kick in....It's where ND has nailed the genre so well.....Everything is combined at a high level of execution and polish...
You have to take these numbers with a grain of salt, because they are an estimation and of players, not units sold. Includes 2nd hand user, a 2nd user in a same console, players who rented the game, users who borrowed it from a friend and so on. And on top of that, gamstat estimates an approximated + / - 10% of error margin.
Waiting for the people to say the fix is in when it wins, people just cant except quality when it happens
Journalists of all types, gaming or otherwise, have zero credibility with me. They have shown themselves to inept and deceitful.
of course this is all speculative but the warning sign are there that stores over ordered based on hype and now are stuck with copies of tlous2 that they can’t sell, it’s been detailed on twitter/youtube with pictures where people can’t get copies of GOT but there are a bunch of tlou2 copies.. add this with the sudden drop in the npds of many other countries outside of america despite the game being released june 19 and it’s not unreasonable to believe these stats. i’m indifferent either way if tlou2 does well than it helps further the cause for single player narrative driven games which ea/activision has been trying to marginalize in recent years
you’re right of course, i’ll add that journalists write to fit in with their peers, there is absolutely peer pressure to “toe the line”, they don’t want to be ostracized from their peer group. so when a woke game like tlous2 comes along if they write anything less than it’s 10/10 it’s stunning and brave they could be accused of wrong think or even potentially cancelled like they tried to do with skill up
yeah that’s why i said outside america, but still to get bumped to 4 like that when it was released on june 19 and these rankings are for july is still not ideal for a game that had the opening that it did and aspires to make at least 15 million
NPD is only in the US. Getting bumped to 4th is still not surprising as I just mentioned before. Still two big releases in GoT and Paper Mario. It wasn't going to stay in the top 2 when you have two big releases coming out.
i never said her being gay was forced although i clearly remember in 2014 many people arguing that she was retconned to be lesbian for the dlc. for the record i believe naughty dog can write whatever story they want and create whatever characters they want. the forced part i was referring to was the overrepresentation in media as a whole that people are getting tired of
i’m just saying that’s out there, you can believe it or not, this is a forum where we speculate over things. the more damning thing in my mind are the npd charts from other countries where tlou2 dropped quickly
Not trying just commenting on what I've seen. This is a thread about the massive drop in players, so pictures of shelves full of TLOUS2 next to empty shelves of GOT is consistent with the OP's point. Before you judge others ask yourself why are you "trying so hard" to defend this game and why do you care if other people don't feel the same as you?
Nothing really major has changed with the game since launch. If you do want to get it i would highly recommend you spoil yourself a bit, as the story is very divisive and you will end up just hating it if your expecting something different.
Ghost of Tsushima is adding players at a faster pace than TLOU2 currently. That is an objective fact. Something to keep in mind that the player count does not take the Legends announcement into account if that even makes any tangible effect on player count growth.Your data doesn't consist much outside of player count, which is funny.
GoT has strong legs in Japan while UK sales are tracking similar to TLOU in the UK within the same time frame.
But lets not forget that Horizon Zero Dawn was discounted a few months after release. Even God of War had Days of Play which boosted sales.
Horizon Zero Dawn: Complete Edition (PS4) for $9.88 at Walmart
www.dealzon.com
This of course isn't' in one region.
