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To OLED, or not to OLED

What type of TV is your main TV?

  • OLED

    Votes: 591 72.2%
  • LCD

    Votes: 139 17.0%
  • Something else

    Votes: 54 6.6%
  • I don't own a TV, just a computer monitor

    Votes: 34 4.2%

  • Total voters
    818
RGB leds - ugh



What does he mean no one expected XD ?
I mean you are using still zones. So it is normal that red zones will "red" other colors in that zone XD
Virtually all text, small details will have fucked up colors with such feature and it is impossible to avoid it unless you use white backlight zones which defeats the purpose in the first place.
 
What TV do you recommend for someone gaming in a bright room with lots of windows?

Bay drapes for windows ?
Or go with normal LCD no RGB baclights, no zones just pure LCD. You won't be looking at pure blacks either way so it doesn't matter.
Also latest OLEDs can peak to 3-4k nits so even in bright room they are good enough.
 
So I was surfing around Reddit and stumbled upon the OLED community there.

It seems LG does a shittastic job of sealing the sides of the OLED panel which lets oxygen in, destroying the screen.
So now I am a bit nervous. 😭
 
What does he mean no one expected XD ?
I mean you are using still zones. So it is normal that red zones will "red" other colors in that zone XD
Virtually all text, small details will have fucked up colors with such feature and it is impossible to avoid it unless you use white backlight zones which defeats the purpose in the first place.

Pretty much everyone expected it (and first reports were from like ~one year ago) but Vincent has to make dramatic titles of his videos :messenger_grinning_sweat:

And he doesn't have to shill for RGB Led in this video because it promotes competing tech (but he did that in the past).
 
Pretty much everyone expected it (and first reports were from like ~one year ago) but Vincent has to make dramatic titles of his videos :messenger_grinning_sweat:
And he doesn't have to shill for RGB Led in this video because it promotes competing tech (but he did that in the past).

Honestly there aren't any good reviewers outside of pure numbers ones like hdratings and their stat site.
Like dudes non stop onanize D65 white point which by all who have actually eyes is muddled yellow white.
And it's funny watching their reviews on release, onanizing every new thing and then later hear from them that there are problems...

Not only those idiots are jacking of to D65, they also can't seem to think of anything other than praising tv companies which go around problems instead of fixing problems.

Like 24fps problem on movies. The proper fix is to have 48hz mode, with black frame insertion. Literally how every movie works in cinema. You get then frame, black frame, frame, black frame. 24fps movie is then smooth. Brain will do the rest just like in cinema.
Even better. Have VRR in filmmaker mode so you can display any framerate you want. without introducing judder. So you can have 144hz display which then displays black frame for shorter time than actual frame to better encapsulate how cinama works.

But no. Let's jack off to D65 for 1000time showing how boring movies can look. Trully people who make movies just fucking love D65 and don't want color in their movie XD

Color volume is another one of those. You can literally on your remote increase saturation and color volume will go up. As much as you fucking want it. It's not magic. Buuuuuttt.... HEY D65 YOU FORGOT ABOUT THAT !!! Virtually any OLED if you actually target actual paper WHITE instead of old cum stain D65 is fucking vivid masterpiece. That's why my G5 experience was so bad considering it was supposed to be color volume masterpiece. Because i tuned my C1 saturation up and set it to actual paper white and voila i had reds of G5 for years XD

Now its RGB led season of eating slop from those companies and they are all lining up talking about color volume once again and D65.

Not one of them asked tv companies representatives when they will finally fucking fix VRR flicker. It's there for at least 5 years now. It's not huge issue but with it gone OLEDs would be literally perfect now.
 
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So I was surfing around Reddit and stumbled upon the OLED community there.

It seems LG does a shittastic job of sealing the sides of the OLED panel which lets oxygen in, destroying the screen.
So now I am a bit nervous. 😭
This problem plagued WOLED from ~2019 to 2023 but I haven't seen reports of TVs newer than LG C3 suffering from that. So it might be fixed.
 
What do you think about mini leds? Isn't it a safer alternative to Oled while offering similar-ish image quality? I don't understand why it isn't as popular. Is there some kind of drawback or issue with it?
 
What do you think about mini leds? Isn't it a safer alternative to Oled while offering similar-ish image quality? I don't understand why it isn't as popular. Is there some kind of drawback or issue with it?
MiniLEDs aren't as popular in enthusiast spaces. But they're the dominant tech by far, due to cost. You also have much more range in sizes. The grand majority of TV sales these days are miniLED, but we're talking mostly cheap budget sets.

Which tech is best is dependent on what your use-case is. For example, if you watch sports content with fast-camera movements and such, OLED wins due to clarity. But then, throw on a hockey game and all OLED looks like a budget set in a bright sunny living room like mine. For critical viewing in a reference setting though, OLED is unequivocally the better tech, until microLED hits consumer-grade pricing. RGB backlighting is the current trend of the moment, but so far everything shown has been questionable. I'm still waiting for Vincent's analysis of the Bravia 9 Mk2 to see what Sony's solution is to deal with color crosstalk.
 
So given that there is not going to be any 77" Bravia 8 II, is the A95L still the best OLED at that size? Wondering if I should grab one before they are gone for good, but even at $3500 it is way more expensive than 77" models from Samsung/LG.
 
So given that there is not going to be any 77" Bravia 8 II, is the A95L still the best OLED at that size? Wondering if I should grab one before they are gone for good, but even at $3500 it is way more expensive than 77" models from Samsung/LG.
A95L has been outclassed, you're better off getting an LG IMO. Sony's panel protection algorithm is very aggressive, the auto brightness limiter will kick in frequently when gaming. I don't recommend Sony OLEDs for gaming.
 
A95L has been outclassed, you're better off getting an LG IMO. Sony's panel protection algorithm is very aggressive, the auto brightness limiter will kick in frequently when gaming. I don't recommend Sony OLEDs for gaming.

For some reason A95L and B8II are different from older Sony OLEDs and have almost no dimming (ASBL) in game mode in HDR, they're pretty good for gaming (apart from QD-OLED TV panels uniformity being crap lately but WOLED isn't good either, especially at 77" size).
And if you really meant ABL then it's going to be roughly on par with other OLED TVs having similar brightness capabilites like Samsung S95D or LG G4, meaning ABL won't be noticeable unless you crank up everything to make it look like vivid mode.
 
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